rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread

j is kinda goin off the deep end. dude's busting through doors in tiny little apartments wearing full black ski masked outfits waving rather large guns at a fucking camcorder

http://dirtyglovebastard.blogspot.com/2010/01/video-project-pat-ft-juicy-j-v-slash.html

Matt, <3 u but there's a lot better ways to listen to 70s rap than rub mixes tbh

that's not g-side that's PRGz!!

prgz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g-side

g-side is a little zzzz

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, January 5, 2010 11:11 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well obviously part of my problem is that i haven't been able to keep all this huntsville stuff straight

Matt, <3 u but there's a lot better ways to listen to 70s rap than rub mixes tbh

― iirc's to you, mrs. robinson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, January 5, 2010 4:53 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha yeah especially because the first year is actually 1980...but it is the best way that's on my ipod right at this very moment....

but dude, are there any crucial comps out there?

i guess maybe there wasn't a whole lot of actual recording going on in the 70s, alot of the real shit was probably lost to time

no, first year is 79.

http://www.itstherub.com/radio.htm#history
http://philaflava.blogspot.com/2008/11/ego-trip-singles-1979.html

maybe whiney's got a dub of herc & sis' back to school party idk

i think rub mixes from like '98 are pointless & 'historical' more than 'fun' & 'good' but yeah the old ones are cool cuz its not like there are a bunch of tapes from back then that i know of

zvookster - thanks! i must've missed that one when i was downloading a bunch of those back when they came out! grabbing it now. i am ready to throw my hands in the air.

pill has signed to asylum/warner bros

can't wait for the gucci feature

in related news, it's pretty fun to search for this thread on ilm new answers by doing a ctrl + f for "fruity"

can't wait 4 'pillennium' 2 drop

do records still drop btw

into the trash behind best buys maybe

pill needs to keep up his collection of t shirts for obscure 60s/70s b-movie horror flicks

so tyt

not to get all nozzy here but i'd prefer if pill just formed a duo with gibbs

i'd prefer it if you just formed a duo with the suggest ban function

#2.5

but then he'd be in a duo with gibbs

i still think pill has commercial potential, if not immediately then somewhere down the line. gibbs is not interested in commercialism & probably has limited appeal anyway. i think it would be a bit of a waste for pill.

yeah otm

listening to freddie gibbs' music feels like my body has formed a duo with a sleeping Pill

i lold

ha

this yela is dope, ty goons.

one thing about the conscious decision to make more 'album' like shiz is... are interludes and skits finally starting to die off? i'm hearing a lot less of them these days.

One thing that I like about Yelawolf is he's such a musical rapper. He really reacts to changes in the beat.

yeah start the gibbs backlash without me. yiz are tripping. as musical a rapper as anybody both in the melodies (you know that's him singing on there right?) and the syncopation of his raps. And huge fun. the hyper falsetto behind those "smoke like i've never smoked before" lines on the midwestgangta bonus track is lol. sorry if u don't get it because those tapes gave me as much pleasure as any rap release last year.

deej: i like those two cuts from dj fresh, the tonite show: the album. are they obvious standouts or is it good throughout? i don't love the style so much that i'd take a chance on the strength.

the yelawolf is very good. there are six strong cuts on it: Box Chevy 3, Speak Her Sex (hate that pun, gonna just call it Speaker Sex. who is that singer? i like how she seems oblivious to yelawolf's verses), Pop the Trunk, Love Is Not Enough, Good to Go, and I Wish in very roughly that order. The last verse of Good to Go so good ("'Pocket Full of Stoooooones'" from falling off his bike or something?) but the hook is a bit obnoxious. He gets so complex in his verses on this tape and has all these melodic touches that he simplifies way too much sometimes on the hook ("In This Club" for instance is inexplicable). Compare it to the drama he injects into a car song (Box Chevy) and it feels like missed opportunities. Rittz kills it on that, who is that guy? I really like the device of ending the verses to Love Is Not Enough with a last line rapped (more like spoken) overlapping with the first sung (is there a name for that overlap verse chorus device?) "rollin' down 20 man" with what seems to me a slightly different enunciation every time that has a slightly different emotional emphasis. Trunk Muzik is a comp of his mixtape cuts, right? The youmustlearn piece referenced these tracks.

it's funny that there are "ways in" to all the new rappers that are currently hot on the internet. gibbs has that from where?, dropped by interscope, releasing music for free narrative. pill has the killer mike affiliation, connection with gibbs, "trap goin ham" vid. yelawolf is a white rapper from alabama who looks like a NY hipster trying to look like yelawolf and ppl have found that identity intriguing. G-Side are a bit of an exception since they came up on appreciation of the production. Still kind of an exotic locale as far as rap goes, tho, i suppose.

loool @ "yelawolf is a white rapper from alabama who looks like a NY hipster trying to look like yelawolf"

wait so the reason i should not be bored by a man named freddie gibbs is because 1) he was dropped by interscope and 2) he's musical and something about the "syncopation of his raps"

right.

devin the dude + z-ro are still rapping and have made enough extra music for me before i have to resort to a tribute rapper. theyre not even dead yet

sorry i don't give a fuck what brings you pleasure. do your thing listen to your old man from the midwest internet rap tape and see which of you two can name all the UGK albums fastest. there's not much to not get about these dudes. the shit that freddie gibbs represents is not what i look for in new rappers, he's revisionist in the same way someone who is not from new york would hyper-value the sean prices of the world and create their own little 90s golden age ressurected version of that sound, plus they'd be from like pittsburgh or some shit, in this hypothetical analogy that i'm creating. sounds fucking awful. shit's boring. pill's boring too but at least he's got a youthful, exciting kind of urgency that reminds me of rap and why i liked every single rapper ive ever liked, even though i don't really even like him very much.

only dude i'm gonna ride for out of the new hyped rappers of right now is Nipsey Hussle.

and what backlash? mp3 blog posts do not a critical consensus make.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zla7j82Yjdo

this right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As_2NMD0mRs

don't really understand the vituperation of your reply. is this one of these rap discussion on the internet things where everybody has to act like they hate each other yet keep coming back every day to the same people? i've seen that a lot in chatrooms and forums and it's pretty sadsack.

the narrative isn't a reason you should care, i'm just pointing out that it exists for each of these guys. not like say termanology releasing an indie single that the source picks up for unsigned hype that premo hears and they record "watch how it go down" which magazines check for in turn. that sort of buzz was still happening four years ago and maybe it isn't now.

"what backlash?" haven't seen any bad reviews, seen lots of good ones.

yeah i was suggesting that musical and "syncopation of his raps" (something funny about that phrase? you know, the rhythms and pitches of the words in relationship to the beat) are two reasons why i care. devin and z-ro are great, z-ro's record was probably top 3 of the year for me, but there's litle virtuoso "look what you did to me" style fast rapping on it, is that old hat and revisionist now? i don't hear anything retro in the gibbs productions so it's not a mausoleum for me. rae's was a mausoleum, bt something good done well is its own pleasure, i don't fiend for trends. anyway my note was a kind of sadness or frustration that rap fans like you weren't feeling something that i like so much so swallow your bile, eh?

i like sean price also.

deej posted that philty upthread, i don't like it much. yelawolf/bun b is also in here twice. it's not even a long thread.

@matt upthread: you're welcome!

people have a weird habit here of posting the same youtubes more than once in the same thread, as if threads aren't hard enough to load for some of us with them being posted once. there's a maxwell thread where someone posted "pretty wings" like 8 times for some reason.

the tonite show album is hit or miss. the tracks with bay dudes tend to be great, tracks with non-bay dudes tend to not be. fresh is great, though he releases so much shit that you will find yourself hitting the skip button from time to time

theres a fair amount of genericism w/in the bay shit as far as rappers go (w/ some notable exceptions -- mob figaz & a couple of the guys from live wire, particularly j-stalin) but that stuff is more about being this alternate universe where rap & pop still intersect, just in a really insular universe. the further the rappers move from home the worse their shit tends to sound. jacka & freeway was zzz

the exception is i like how mob figaz sound with cormega -- hes a perfect fit for some reason. i think because there's a big NY influence in a lot of their shit, especially jacka's

husalah, jacka & j stalin are the most exciting rappers in the scene, imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qx83P9V7is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wADXuyQVd3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_FsMNvGbeI

this was probably j-stalin's biggest track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTzHvpeANZk
I like 'rock day' (the one surfboards posted) ok but i think theres gonna be better stuff on that album when it leaks

frankly considering how generic clipse & gibbs & pill can sound id be shocked if this stuff was too generic for ppl

the shit that freddie gibbs represents is not what i look for in new rappers

i don't disagree w/ surfboards re: gibbs — in fact i think he makes good points, some i've articulated before about gibbs/pill being the mirror images of rappers like the xxl freshmen that southern gangster rap fans like to mock - but surfboards did post about anticipating a triple c's album. so ymmv

re: shipley - i couldn't even imagine trying to load a goon/ringtone thread after like... march w/o bookmarking

man the gibbs hate is really bumming me out. i listened to miseducation so much...i think he's great.

re: yelawolf - a large reason why the album is great is because he can do so many styles well - his double time rapping is really good, but then he ends the tape with real melodic, soothing tracks where he sings just really well - i think everyone likes to throw out ugk as a reference point since they've kind of become an all encompassing touchstone for southern rap after their critical/commercial renaissance, but the singing on "love is not enough" really does remind me of that soulful singing that pimp c did

i just roll w/images off

ok, am i the only one who finds the name 'J. Stalin' to be a bit....uh...much? it would be like being a rapper named 'eazy hitler'

(even if it is his real name or whatever)

man the gibbs hate is really bumming me out. i listened to miseducation so much...i think he's great.

― jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, January 6, 2010 2:09 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark

i think really what the problem is that while a lot of people like the tape & respect him as an artist and all, the amount of words spent on him on the internet - which is where a lot of us 'reside' when it comes to rap, talking about discourse here - except of course for deej who works with asylum/warner bros a&rs @ wrigley field if i'm not mistaken - really exceeds what he presents. the problem is that people nowadays - i'm sure i'm guilty of this as well, so not throwing stones - can't just talk about rap w/o talking about 'can this person be popular? why isn't he popular? shouldn't he be more popular? shouldn't he be as popular as this person? this is why major labels are fucked up' - etc. and when you have someone like freddie gibbs who was dropped from a major for - imo - obvious reasons, it's like "shut up jeff weiss, he is not the best cross section of biggie & pac and he was dropped for a good reason if you're trying to make money. just chill out"

yeah i guess i don't really go to the blogs or other rap boards or anything....my whole view of what's going on in rap is pretty much this thread haha....

to me dude is just some good, skilled meat and potatoes gangster shit and a good rapper...i can't really get that concerned about the "state of rap" anymore, just trying to find little nuggets of stuff that suits my tastes

and you should! probably a lot less internal handwringing than the rest of us

minneapolis's hip hop/r&b station just switched formats : (

going to a top 40 format

goodbye TI, 'ello lady gaga

lol @ my interactions w/ asylum A&Rs
working there was like working in an asylum fwiw

surfboards is just biting our / noz's ahead-of-the-game sigh-ing about f gibbs. imo gibbs does stuff well, but it still feels removed & kinda pointless right now, an exercise in certain styles