Mulholland Drive - theories please.

you are lying to yourself about the way meaning is constructed

i think in all art-making there is a certain extent to which ppl r just winging it and seeing where shit sticks, even in the processes of ppl who seemingly have really refined sensibilities

s1ocki otm

also how is this: Do you guys believe Lynch when he says he writes all his movies by just meditating and writing down ideas on 3x5 cards when he gets them, then assembling them when he amasses a certain amount? really that different from any other creative writing process. "I sit there until I get ideas, then I write them down, and when it feels finished its done" = every writer ever.

like, i think relying on the director to validate the explanation is a bit of a dead end on some levels

Lynch is particularly forthcoming about erasing any conscious intent from his approach, which I think distinguishes him from most other films.

He isn't a film

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_fallacy

You guys are operating on the idea that Lynch's film is particularly an expression of Lynch, right?

no

You guys are operating on the idea that Mulholland Drive is really in L.A.?

it's an ensemble performance, held on the loosest of leashes by a man whose vision is both mercurial and lissom

Would you at least agree that he gobbles up his actors and spits out performances in a particularly Lynchian way (Winkie guy's stamina for carrying this weirdness to numerous non-Lynch roles notwithstanding)?

Mostly, but Richard Farnsworth emerges unscathed. The reverse happened; Lynch tapped into the actor's Farnsworthiness.

No disrespect to Farnsworth (Anne of Green Gables reprasent!), but isn't that more due to Lynch's not writing the script to that one?

Lara Herring hinted today that there is a sequel in the works.

"I'm very sure it's coming, it's being born," she said. "I cannot really tell you how I know."

http://www.nbcmiami.com/blogs/popcornbiz/Mulholland-Drive-Star-Believes-a-David-Lynch-Follow-Up-Is-Being-Born-90248057.html

^^^ sounds like Lynch dialogue.

We'll see two more sequels if we do bad.

Let's hope he uses better digital cameras than on IE.

let's hope it's a shot-for-shot remake of The Room

well i assume he had some (relatively) long running story arc for these characters

that's good news

I'd kill for a TV series

I thought "Rabbits" was the sequel.

Britishers: The Observer gave away the DVD free today, and you can follow their liveblog of the film here

how quaint

David Lynch will open a Mulholland Drive-themed nightclub in Paris

lol at sophisticated nerve comments.

So long as there's nothing behind the dumpster, I'm okay with this...

pish idea.

good idea would be make another film.

I just saw a 35mm print of this and holy shit I never realized how clever and brilliant the sound editing is!!! Also, hearing "Llorando" booming soooooo loudly throughout the half-empty theater within the film and the half-empty theater in which I was watching the film was REALLY REALLY FUCKING INTESNE

Like when Weirdo Dude is at Winkie's talking w/ his shrink there is absolutely no background/ambient noise. There is a lot of silence in this film!

"Sum'n bit me BAD!"

― queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, January 4, 2010

I have to say it just occurred to me the other day how Adam Kesher in MD almost plays the viewer in the sense that he is like totally weirded out by how bizarre his circumstances are, partic w/ the Cowboy; he seems to echo the audience's sentiment of "what the fuck is going on here" when everyone else in the film is kind of acting like it's all normal

Does any other Lynch character sort of break the 4th wall in this regard?

― EMA Sumac (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 September 2014 16:25 (two years ago) Permalink

wow i have no recollection of writing this but i am impressed w/ past stevie's observation

I think this was p straightforward actually

Does any other Lynch character sort of break the 4th wall in this regard?

We'll see two more sequels if we do bad.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:46 (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A+

LJ itt is the lj that always annoyed everyone so much

Sorry man but hey at least it took me this long right

I just saw a 35mm print of this and holy shit I never realized how clever and brilliant the sound editing is!!!

Yeah, I can't watch Lynch without the sound cranked. How many people have totally missed the monkey whispering 'Judy' in FWWM?

One of my favourite sound editing moments IIRC is prior to the scene where Betty meets her grandparents; A phone rings and the sound delays and lingers until a sublime music cue cuts in. It's hard to explain to do it justice, but it's profoundly moving.

I never got that they were her grandparents although I guess that you are right

Betty meets her grandparents?

no

Fuck I haven't seen this movie in a long time, I'm referring to the scene where she arrives in Los Angeles with the elderly couple. Guess I got confused

http://www.mulholland-drive.net/cast/elderly.htm

Yes it makes sense that the old couple are her grandparents of the whole first 2/3rds is a fever dream.

Diane and Betty are different characters tho

are they though, are they really

Lol

Betty's just Diane's dream self, surely.

They're old people there's no suggestion that they exist at all let alone grandparent anybody

xp - i figure they're two sides of the actress archetype, one innocent, the other fallen

I know that darragh but most people in dreams are real versions of people we think about often.