Which audition scene? The awkward script reading or the magic 50's studio set Camilla Rhodes lip sync (which I've told people before is probably my single favorite scene of any movie of all time)
― Without Curves, I would feel deflated. I like Curves. They are best. (Stevie D), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
There's a whole raft of amazing bit-part players. I think this is a deliberate ploy. To what extent is this film about the fractal nature of film? The subdivided experience of connected whims? I say this because for the first half at least, the film seems to be a collection of scenes, before it becomes a strangely contiguous albeit difficult whole.
The non-awkward and utterly thrilling script reading, my dear Stevie. "like in the movies"
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link
The first of those scenes is the transformative one -- I was utterly astonished by it -- cuz Watts shows something that has no way been shown in her character (or in her performance) til that point.
xp
― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
(not to mention, she's doing a dry hump w/ CHAD EVERETT)
― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, January 4, 2010 2:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^ this
― meryl streep post-brazilian (s1ocki), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I didn't work out Diane and Betty were the same person until after the movie ended. I was frantically piecing it together but it didn't quite hit until afterwards. (I thought Diane was that waitress! But that was Naomi Watts too, wasn't it?) I didn't work out that the two women practising the audition wasn't a real scene until halfway through. But on this latter point at least, I think I'm probably quite dense.
That script-reading scene, like a few others but more so, feels like a 'classic Hollywood scene' and was intended to feel so. But it's artificial! It's created in modern-day cynical Hollywood, and it's a facsimile of a scene by definition. BUT it's a classic Hollywood scene, no inverted commas. Plus, yes, she becomes an actress in that scene, and in the process becomes a real human. I think therein lies a key to the movie? Authenticity through pretence? Movies being real?
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Monday, 4 January 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
movie would've been better with tiny old people running around the entire time
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link
this movie had good scenes but struck me as super lazy
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link
how
― meryl streep post-brazilian (s1ocki), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link
really? compared to what, Saw VI?
― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link
at some point dude was just like hay lets put this here, let's make this shit about some box, lets uhhhh, uhhhhhcredits
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
"Sum'n bit me BAD!"
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
sspfw, I think you are confusing Lynch w/ the television program "Lost"
― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i think what uhoh is referring to is the difficulty of turning a tv pilot into a cinematic film... i have a dvd copy of the unedited pilot, 80% of which ends up in MD the film. you can tell where lynch had to adapt more to reach more a cinematic arc than keeping it fit for TV.
that said, i think uhoh couldn't be more off the mark that it was lazy filmmaking.
― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
all in all the movie was pretty bold and great but everything felt super rushed, I love lynch btw
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah maybe lazy was too harsh, dude was just working with what he had
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not gonna retract what I thought about the old people running around all the time tho
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
anyone gonna help me out with my thoughts here or at least call me dumb or w/e...i think it's important i understand how this film relates to film...its combination of trope and innovation surely contains filmic quintessence?
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
a combination of trope and innovation
― super sexy psycho fantasy world (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
OH MY GOD tell us abt the DVD pilot! Are all the scenes in mostly the same order? What sort of direction does it take? What's in the scenes that were removed?
― Without Curves, I would feel deflated. I like Curves. They are best. (Stevie D), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Monday, January 4, 2010 3:11 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
not sure what you're getting at there but the parts of the movie where the film seems to wobble and actually go off the gate could be what you're looking for
― meryl streep post-brazilian (s1ocki), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
...I'm sorta hitting at the film's insistence on placing genuinely classic scenes within a framework that first isolates them and projects them as classic scenes, before somehow incorporating them within a fractal narrative of repeating movie-ness, which comes to define the projection
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link
stevie d,check here:http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=mulholland+drive+tv+pilot
i'll try to find a copy online and if not i'll u/l mine.
― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link
In my blurb for this I said that few films capture exactly what it feels like to be dumped: the scene in which Naomi Watts makes coffee – where every moment, from spooning coffee to stirring the cup, is weighed equally – is one of the truest depictions of depression I've ever seen.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link
btw there's a bit near the end where the music is incredible - think it's either the bit with andy the director snogging camilla in the car, or the second lesbian love-scene, or both
score throughout is excellent, i gather the dude who wrote it is the dude spitting coffee everywhere, lol
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
u know what i love is the opening dance collage scene
that blew me away on 1st viewing
― meryl streep post-brazilian (s1ocki), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i ate at "Winky's"
it was a Denny's but now it's Caesar's in Gardena.
― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link
love the eyebrow guy at winky's
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
who later showed up in mad men and lost. great agent that guy has.
he was also the video store guy in ghost world.
― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yeah!
― plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm watching those madmen eps with this guy and he is great in them
― plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link
his schtick is so weird i don't know how he gets these parts but he's great in them
― plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link
ya great screen presence
― meryl streep post-brazilian (s1ocki), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Attended NYU Tisch School of the Arts, trained at Circle in the Square and graduated in 1992.
Founded and is co-artistic director of the Neurotic Young Urbanites, a Los Angeles theater group created by NYU graduates to give young actors a working environment to continue developing their skills. In addition to appearing in many of their productions, he has co-directed musical productions.
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link
one of the great that guys of the 2000s imo
― max, Monday, 4 January 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link
funny he made such an impression on me in his short scene in MD that when he showed up in LOST i was like.. THAT GUY
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link
he little speech in MD is really delivered so amazing. the little smirks, the fear, the cadence...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM2t2wqaOsM
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
samwisediggory (3 days ago)best scene in the whole movie, love it.
redandjonny (1 month ago)favorite scene Lynch has ever filmed.
Cmdsouza (1 month ago)Terrible but the movie is interesting.
iAMcooooooool (2 weeks ago)Quite the opposite: the movie is terrible and this is the only interesting part of it.
― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Monday, 4 January 2010 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Quite the opposite
― max, Monday, 4 January 2010 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link
noted film scholar iAMcoooooooooooooool
― max, Monday, 4 January 2010 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link
what's crazy is that his dad owns Patrick's Roadhouse in Santa Monica and named the restaurant after him 36 years ago!
Also crazy: Patrick's is on the verge of collapse, they were given their 30 day eviction notice last month and things look bleak.
― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link
He's fine in that scene, but I didn't remember the eyebrows or that he was in Ghost World.
― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean, the food was average and the drinks sucked but it's a huge landmark for folks who spent time between Malibu and SanMo back in the day.
― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link
you could definitely say that about him
― meryl streep post-brazilian (s1ocki), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link
o i didn't see the first post.
― meryl streep post-brazilian (s1ocki), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link
also no joke the cowboy + andy scene (well, any andy scene really but this one most so) is stone-dead wonderful. but everything about it is self-knowingly wonderful. it's there AS a classic scene AND an experience-within-film. does this make sense? it's just mannered in such a way that is redolent of 'classic hollywood' (the conversational dynamic, the light), but its placement within the fractal narrative is, while seemingly incidental, essential to the narrative's dare I say kaleidoscopic (meant in the true, mirrored-chaos-becoming-idealism way) nature.
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link
it's like "the pictures" have come and ganged up on diane's and our consciousnesses - their faraway, hyperreal quality taunts and thrills. film as raison d'etre and executioner
― Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Jesus is that Rolf from Muppet Babies?
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link