Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

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tho just knock the score down to a quarter of the volume and it'll be okay tbh

Audrey Wetherspoons (sic), Monday, 4 January 2010 00:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

I was vainly hoping for a score of eerie ambient electronic noises.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Monday, 4 January 2010 02:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

tho just knock the score down to a quarter of the volume and it'll be okay tbh

Yeah, it's the intrusiveness which bugs me, which is surely a failing of some sound editor, rather than Gold himself. THough I, too, would love a return to Radiophonic Workshop ambient weirdo stuff.

Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Monday, 4 January 2010 02:54 (eight years ago) Permalink

I suppose my problem is more with the mixing than the score itself, but my feelings towards Mr Gold were not greatly improved by that Doctor Who Prom they did (christ knows why I was watching this - that time of day where sitting mindlessly in front of someone else's telly choices is about all I can manage I suppose) mentioning Murray Gold's Amazing Wonderful Doctor Who Theme Tune approx 6000 times, Ron Grainer maybe once, Delia Derbyshire 0 times

brett favre vs bernard fevre, fite (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 4 January 2010 09:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

i reckon if they're going to rip off windowlicker so badly, they might as well hand over the score-writing duties to mr richard d james - not like he's doing anything much else at the moment except hanging round the synth shed smoking weed

that would be a welcome return to weird radiophonic noises

Karen Tregaskin, Monday, 4 January 2010 11:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

I really don't know why Moffat would get rid of everything else from the RTD era, but decide that Murray Gold is a keeper.

think his normal footwear will be black boots

The boots are Prada.

ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 4 January 2010 14:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5952/eleventhdoctorpromojanu.jpg

All a bit wibbly-wobbly torchy-worchy.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

Looks like an old-school Doctor there, right enough

stet, Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

A dalek turned up in "better off ted" this week.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 7 January 2010 04:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

annoying gingers complaining about doctor who complaining about not-being-ginger giving the rest of us gingers a bad name:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article6977818.ece

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 10:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Awesome choice of picture there.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 10:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

annoying gingers complaining about doctor who complaining about not-being-ginger giving the rest of us gingers a bad name:

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article6977818.ece

― Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, January 7, 2010 10:37 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

karen, i was on the fence about your whole steez, but this is the second lame anti-ginger comment in two days, so: get fucked, you highly annoying challops merchant/fake woman.

Patriarchy Oppression Machine (history mayne), Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

Hearsay and rumours that this series will contain Winston Churchill (could be awful) and Vincent Van Gogh (could be amazing).

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

That's a decent line-up of writers, especially given that both the Unicorn & The Wasp and School Reunion are underrated episodes.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

Set pic from the Vincent Van Gogh episode - http://imgur.com/MpnPR.jpg

There's other ones with what's supposedly the new 'bad wolf' running theme shown, too.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Simon Nye?? o_O

unpredictable johnny rodz, Thursday, 7 January 2010 11:58 (eight years ago) Permalink

Chibnall ;_;

Audrey Wetherspoons (sic), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

dear mr. mayne: i AM ginger

this might be why i notice these kinds of things?

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:18 (eight years ago) Permalink

am i missing something here or isn't 'karen' pretty obviously masonic boom?

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:23 (eight years ago) Permalink

portmeirion :o

conrad, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

“I’ve still got legs. Arms, hands, lots of fingers, eyes, hair,” said Smith, 27, after completing his regeneration from David Tennant. Checking his new look, the eleventh actor to play the Doctor continued: “I’m not a doll. I’m still not ginger.”

what the fucking fuck he said "I'm not a GIRL" not "I'm not a doll" surely

whole show is ruined otherwise

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

the comment on that geek site linked to is rather wrong though - claims that the only historical personages the dr meets are writers?

since when was queen victoria a writer?

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

chibnall is doing the two-parter? argh

Roz, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

whilst Chris Chibnall (42) will pen a two-parter.

MEH. six Moffat eps tho, cup runneth over. question is who will be the new him and upstage the head writer?

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

blueski is correct.

Ward the obvious thing you're missing is that Masonic Boom isn't ginger!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Six episodes is pretty hefty! Rusty usually did, what, four?

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

he did 6 for s4. i guess it means Moffat will write the last 4 or 5, building up to big revelatory arc in similar way.

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

No Paul Cornell :(

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Ward the obvious thing you're missing is that Masonic Boom isn't ginger!

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:30 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

should i grow a beard?

joe, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:33 (eight years ago) Permalink

Get this shit off our nice Doctor Who thread, thx.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

word

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

As a ginger w/no sense of humour I might normally mind that there comment but chose to hear it as slightly funny dig at everyone (apparently every Who watcher ever except on ILX) who takes violent exception to Donna for being, ooh, a bit ginger and over 25, both pretty shocking for a woman who gets allowed to be on the telly

seriously everyone I talk to abt Doctor Who except on here moans endlessly about her being the worst companion ever, which is just a bit silly if you look at the competition, even the nu-Who competition

(xposts) Hm, I was scanning for Cornell too. It says "returnees include" so I don't know if it's completely ruled out or not.

Don't know whether to be excited or worried about new Weeping Angels, since I loved Blink but thought it was very neat as a one-off.

⍨ (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

question is who will be the new him and upstage the head writer?

I'm guessing that would be Paul Cornell, but is he actually writing any?

I thought 42 was an okay, certainly non-terrible episode.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

Just checked, Rusty wrote five episodes for each of his series.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

don't know if this was addressed on the last thread or not as i walked in just as it was ending but donna is probably my favourite of the companions so far in nu-who not least for being a bit smarter, older, less in thrall to the doctor than rose or martha

didn't expect that at all as i don't rate catherine tate as an actor or a comedian

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

I second that post.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

Conrad: The "Portmeirion" sign should be ignored. It's just a point of sale banner for Portmeirion pottery in the window of the shop at Cardiff Millennium Centre (for that's where that particular scene was filmed). The rest of said episode was filmed in Croatia.

unpredictable johnny rodz, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:52 (eight years ago) Permalink

But on topic, fuck a Crayons Chibnall two parter :(

unpredictable johnny rodz, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

:o

conrad, Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

the planet Croatia i hope

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

The other thing to remember is that Rusty rewrote or got people to revise scripts to fit his view of how the series should be and presumably Moffatt will do the same. So a Chibnall script for Moffatt could end up quite different to a Chibnall script for Davies.

Looking forward to the Gatiss one, given that Rusty apparently trashed his original script for The Unquiet Dead and made him take out a lot of the darker bits.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

there's still strong anti-donna sentiment out there? i knew there was circa "Runaway Bride" but i thought people had gotten over it during S4. anyway i loved her and apparently i've self-selected places on the internet to go where everyone else loves her too.

Euclidian pizza mathematics (reddening), Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

does this also mean that moffat written script w/o rusty looking over his shoulder could be different from the moffat we've grown to expect?

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:02 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rusty said he didn't change Moffatt's scripts at all, so maybe not.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

half-serious point but presumably now there will be fewer gay references? the occasional background character notwithstanding. i just can't imagine anyone consciously inserting gayness into proceedings with half as much vigour as Rusty.

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

"inserting", "vigour"

Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

ITS LIKE I'M HIM

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

If only Frankie Howerd had ever been offered the Doctor Who gig.

Shart Habit to Break (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

Worth bearing in mind Moffatt wrote the series' first gay ref in The Empty Child and also pretty much outed the Master in that mini Davison ep. So you never know… Plus Moffatt loves to troll the stuffier fans so I wouldn't put it past him to try and outdo Rusty for the lulz.

unpredictable johnny rodz, Thursday, 7 January 2010 13:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

I don't think there's a been soundtrack so bad or intrusive in any recent TV show has there? I mean a lot of dull soundtracks sure but Gold is just obnoxious, always trying to make you have a rosy golden warm feeling

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 28 December 2017 23:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

*there's been a

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 28 December 2017 23:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I think he brought some welcome cinematic drama to more than a few of my favorite 10th and 11th Dr stories but his style has calcified and started to really grate.

Not unlike Giacchino’s scores for Lost which were minimal, fresh and bravely weird at first but eventually turned into self-parody over time (along with the rest of that show) - talented composer, stuck in self-inflicted rut, doomed by excessively long run.

El Tomboto, Friday, 29 December 2017 01:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

And sound editors who keep sticking him too high in the mix

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 29 December 2017 01:41 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Gatiss's departure at the end of this undercut by his resemblance to Tim McInnerny as Captain Darling.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 December 2017 09:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

saw an interview with Moffat where he bemoaned that having to come back again meant the regeneration happened at Christmas, when he was pleased at breaking the pattern previously

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Saturday, 30 December 2017 05:49 (three weeks ago) Permalink

gold star for u tiger

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 30 December 2017 06:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

for u!

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Saturday, 30 December 2017 09:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I enjoyed this. I wasn’t expecting multiple callbacks to Into the Dales, though.

Embalming is a flirty business (DJP), Saturday, 30 December 2017 13:18 (three weeks ago) Permalink

This was great but I'm not sure Bill being a duplicate was a very satisfying way to end her arc (though I guess that was the point). i enjoyed the big speech and even Gatiss was good, an achievement in itself.

Bingo on many Moff tropes:
Timey-wimey / location-hopping
"It's a big not a feature" / No villain
Screwball dialog - great, then overstaying its welcome
Everything gets summed up with a big meta speech
Being 20% terrible and 80% very, very good indeed
Making my partner cry more than once an episode

I think Capaldi would've got the best regeneration episode BY FAR if they'd just kept it to the end of last season as planned. But I still think Matt Smith's was the best (and underrated, except possibly by sic).

Overall I still get excited to see Moffat's name in the writing credits - he might not have bettered Blink but he definitely equalled his other RTD episodes. And he's forgiven for the last episode of Sherlock (one of the worst things I've ever seen).

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 30 December 2017 15:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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