I remember reading an interview where Cuomo said that Dylan has had (overall) a rather negative influence on popular music. This from the man who made Pinkerton! (Not a horrible album, but the music and lyrics it's influenced...yuck.)
― Cunga, Monday, 1 October 2007 05:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Ok, maybe he's smarter than Mickey Mars,
I fucking doubt that.
― mulla atari, Monday, 1 October 2007 05:43 (sixteen years ago) link
i love weezer
http://dsf.pacounties.org/training/lib/training/muppets_and_weezer.jpg
― chaki, Monday, 1 October 2007 05:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Weird to me is how they went from being just another jokey-alt band to suddenly being a revered and 'influential' group with 'Pinkerton' hailed as an antecedent to Emo...(most of my research is just mostly general conversation with kids in bands, but still...) I nearly fell over when I saw a bio on the group: River's Edge: The Weezer Story (I couldn't make this shit up.) I opened to the intro just to see what the fuck and sure enough the author is unhinged. He recounts how he discovers the group by getting a free cassette and listening to it in his car on the ride home and how he's completely blown away because here was a band who were combining the aggression of punk with the pleasing harmonies and hooks of pop -- and this had never been done before!
Like the Ramones never happened. Never mind the other three hundred bands we could list. If I ever end up in jail I might read this book.
― smurfherder, Monday, 1 October 2007 05:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I remember back in the '90s they were pegged as "MTV's Pavement" and that was good enough for me. Trash.
― mulla atari, Monday, 1 October 2007 05:55 (sixteen years ago) link
i see all those muppets but where's the band amirite
― latebloomer, Monday, 1 October 2007 06:00 (sixteen years ago) link
weezer is so awesome
― chaki, Monday, 1 October 2007 06:01 (sixteen years ago) link
chaki otm
― max, Monday, 1 October 2007 06:02 (sixteen years ago) link
hating weezer is easy but loving them is SO MUCH EASIER
― max, Monday, 1 October 2007 06:03 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't hate em
― latebloomer, Monday, 1 October 2007 06:08 (sixteen years ago) link
creep
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link
I love the Blue Album, not much beyond that but a few singles. But the Blue Album is high on the list of my favorite albums from the 90s, just for the first two songs and "Only In Dreams" alone, not to mention the singles.
― Euler, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link
only in dreams is fucking epic
― chaki, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i like that buddy holly tune
― max r, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Driving back late to my hotel after a really important night for my work, I put on the University of Pittsburgh college radio station and "Only In Dreams" came on. At that moment it became the Greatest Song Ever, the Platonic Idea of Epic. The final build-up and climax is pretty autosexual, but that's part of its greatness: I mean it is only in dreams.
― Euler, Monday, 1 October 2007 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link
weezer were an amazing band who tragically died ten years ago.
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Monday, 1 October 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link
I like the quiet moments on Only In Dreams. The loud dynamic stumbles.
― Cunga, Monday, 1 October 2007 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link
'death and destruction' is an underrated tune. it's as close as they came to the greatness of the blue/pinkerton era imo
― 6335, Monday, 1 October 2007 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Honestly, aren't C/D threads like this skewed towards people who cared enough to actually listen to a bands albums and therefore liked them in the first place? I only heard the radio singles and concluded 'Dud' long, long ago but that probably doesn't make it a fair judgment. Nevertheless, I won't lose any sleep over it.
― Mr. Odd, Monday, 1 October 2007 23:35 (sixteen years ago) link
'death and destruction' is an underrated tune.
I-L-O-V-E-Y-O-U?
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 01:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Isn't the new single a pretty great Weezer song?
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link
chorus sounds great. hate the verse and the lyrics :(
― 6335, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Argh, I've been listening to / reading about Weezer after the weekend, and then this gets revived. Odd.
― Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.spinner.com/media/2008/04/weezer-300.jpg Produced by Rick Rubin.
The record is being described as "experimental", and according to Cuomo, includes longer and non-traditional songs, TR-808 drum machines, synthesizers, Southern rap, baroque counterpoint, and band members other than Cuomo writing, singing, and switching instruments.
― chaki, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link
out june 17th btw
― chaki, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
longer and non-traditional songs, TR-808 drum machines, synthesizers, Southern rap, baroque counterpoint, and band members other than Cuomo writing, singing, and switching instruments
They have a fever.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
cover so funny
― Mackro Mackro, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link
brian looks like federline
― chaki, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
The Greatest Man That Ever Lived
8-(_____________)
(that's a dropped jaw)
― StanM, Thursday, 8 May 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link
(it's both ridiculous and brilliant at the same time)
― StanM, Thursday, 8 May 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link
"Greatest Man", "Pork and Beans" and "Dreamin'" are the best Weezer songs in ages. The rest...predictably awful.
― Simon H., Thursday, 8 May 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
=(_)
― billstevejim, Friday, 9 May 2008 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link
I feel bad having to break out the haterade, but I think a flood of figurative vomit flew up into my mouth...but as someone who used to love weezer (we were all 15 once), I didn't know it could get worse than 'Beverly Hills.' I would take Rivers on the emo-est day of his life at his Pinkerton or The world has turned and left me here absolute pinnacle emo-est over this. Unless Rick Rubin put them up to some elaborate joke (including writing these ridiculous lyrics, I mean, Pork and Beans? really? especially the buddy holly guitars in that, in a way, to blue album fans, it almost begs to be heard as a fuck you from Rivers to people who like/used to like that song/Blue album....boo-urns.
― Michael_Pemulis, Friday, 9 May 2008 04:07 (sixteen years ago) link
.....and that last post was accidentally sent before I could make it coherent, anyway, point I was gonna bring up is, do those who like the new weezer prefer it to older weezer?
― Michael_Pemulis, Friday, 9 May 2008 04:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Doubtful. New Weezer doesn't have cheeky quotes of Stockhausen or Kurt Weill.
New Weezer lyrics don't weather long-term scrutiny, either. You listen to their first two albums and well-articulated expressions of the transgressions of youth against youth (youth against itself, which is probably a very aware reflection of Pet Sound's theme of the transgression of adulthood against youth) and the obstacles to fulfilling, long-term (romantic) love begin to come to the front of the listening experience.
New Weezer lyrics have a lot of caveman three syllable lines, much fewer idiosyncrasies and the songs are less autobiographical. (The perfect pop song you're trying to write again and again is allowed to have details and personality, Rivers - more than pure craft.) They're also no longer quoting Cheap Trick, Beach Boys, Hanoi Rocks or whomever Cuomo is secretly/not secretly inspired by: they're quoting themselves analogously, and their body of work isn't large or varied enough yet to deserve recursiveness.
That said, their post-Pinkerton stuff deserves some defense, even the demos leading up to Make Believe, although not the album itself.
Thinking and talking about the Cuomo story and myth is a fun pastime, and wondering how he could write two intelligent pop records and give it up to facelessness is a big part of that. My three stories relating are about two well-meaning stoners/users and one clueless teenage Morrissey fan, and maybe that explains it all, that Weezer's fans ask, if anything, for LCD dumbness and cannot, when given it, put their finger on exactly what's wrong.
(The first Rentals album is fucking rad and gets a lot of regular play on my stereo.)
― bamcquern, Friday, 9 May 2008 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Weezer "Internet Meme"-themed "Pork and Beans" video... I kind of smiled a few times:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muP9eH2p2PI
― Savannah Smiles, Friday, 23 May 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Though there are a couple of them I don't know the origins of. I was kind of waiting for a 2 girls 1 cup gag.
― Savannah Smiles, Saturday, 24 May 2008 09:51 (fifteen years ago) link
they rock bitches
― usic, Saturday, 24 May 2008 09:53 (fifteen years ago) link
i remember hearing "buddy holly" when i was 13 and thinking that it must be some old tune from the 70s. the first album had a few nice tunes.
poppier side of 80s us punk + poppier side of 70s us metal = weezer
― jeremy waters, Saturday, 24 May 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link
like, descendents + cheap trick, etc
― jeremy waters, Saturday, 24 May 2008 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link
weezer = liz phair for teens. I was going to say 'for boys' but I think Liz's fanbase was mostly horny dudes anyway.
Also, the internet meme thing was already done by South Park so... Kudos to them
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4281/tynan6in.gif
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Saturday, 24 May 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I think the Red Album (that's what people are calling it, right?) is pretty alright.
― Mordy, Friday, 13 June 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link
I feel a strong urge to buy it, and I haven't felt so since the Green Album (colors rock!!11)
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 13 June 2008 23:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I was not impressed by "Dreamin'" or "Greatest Man."
― billstevejim, Saturday, 14 June 2008 02:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I wonder what Geir thinks of Weezer...
*whistles idly*
― stephen, Saturday, 14 June 2008 03:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I like Pork & Beans and Heart Songs. But that's fairly predictable, right?
― Mordy, Saturday, 14 June 2008 04:16 (fifteen years ago) link
-- usic
― deeznuts, Saturday, 14 June 2008 04:26 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/sites/default/files/Copy%20of%20DSC_0307.JPG
― Manchego Bay (G00blar), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link
Uh...what're we looking at here? I think I recognize that guy.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 26 November 2008 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link
that would be rivers cuomo
― thereminimum chips (electricsound), Wednesday, 26 November 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link