best one chord song?

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bo diddley, "who do you love" (i think; haven't heard it in a while)

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 01:11 (eighteen years ago) link

The key is to get rid of that whole "melody" thing and focus on rhythm instead.

Then, there isn't a song anymore.

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), June 14th, 2005.

Geir, don't you ever tire of being wrong? I mean, on a basic, fundamental, dictionary-definition level, YOU ARE WRONG. Give up already, it's okay to say that there are ways of writing songs that you dislike, you don't have to exclude them from being music altogether.

-- The Ghost of Dan Perry (djperr...), June 14th, 2005.

It's not "wrong" to say that a "song" has to have a "melody". By dictionary definition, it does have to have a melody.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Now it’s past my bed I know
And I’d really like to go
Soon will be the break of day
Sitting here in blue jay way

I'm so happy that I get to be the first to mention this song.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link

"Blue Jay Way" good call. In fact, most of George Harrisons' Indian influenced songs have only one chord. The musical sophistication in Indian ragas lies in the melody, not in the harmonies.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 08:35 (eighteen years ago) link

blue jay way is not a one chord song !

AleXTC (AleXTC), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 09:00 (eighteen years ago) link

attaque surprise by Vive La Fete!!!

breezy, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link

blue jay way is not a one chord song !

I'm afraid it is.

explain how it isn't please.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

C#maj and yes it is only one chord the whole song. Good thing we're not talking about dub music.

It is SO not C#.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

It's an A that's slightly sharp of concert pitch, I do believe.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link

"Silverfuck" by the Smashing Pumpkins is technically only one chord, right? At least the main riff is...

The main riff is, but other chords be droppin' later.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not "wrong" to say that a "song" has to have a "melody". By dictionary definition, it does have to have a melody.

but surely this definition isn't still relevant. what with avant garde, noise, various types of non-Western music...

matlewis, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I generally shy away from using "song" to describe instrumental music.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link

"Pulse" by the Furs

At least I think it is. I think Tim Butler said it was one chord.

Aja (aja), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Unrest, various versions of "Hydro"

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

jaymc OTM. Song =/= Music

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

jaymc OTM. Song =/= any piece of music

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Unrest, various versions of "Hydro"

does that one win for longest song without a chord change?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Breath deeper.

Daydreamer.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Tenacious D - One Note Song

pinder (pinder), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Well ok, let's assume that in order to have a song you need a melody. Still, the melody can be so minimalistic or uninteresting as to be at best a secondary element of the song. Take Can's "Vitamin C." Melody takes a back seat to harmony and, most of all, to rhythm. More than one chord there, though.

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Thursday, 16 June 2005 04:20 (eighteen years ago) link

The Doors -- "L.A. Woman"

Flaneur, Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link

A song is "A brief composition written or adapted for singing." Whatever is sung is the primary melody.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

The Doors -- "L.A. Woman"

One chord? Are you deaf?

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Did somebody already mention "Coconut" by Harry Nilsson? That's indisputably one chord and it's indisputably a proper song - and a damn fine one too!

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Was going to say "Who Do You Love" but see I was beaten to it. There are a lot of great two-chord songs. One-chorders are decidedly rarer.

Burr (Burr), Thursday, 16 June 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

about blue jay way : http://www.recmusicbeatles.com/public/files/awp/bjw.html

AleXTC (AleXTC), Thursday, 16 June 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I say "Rollin' and Tumblin'," Elmore James, that is the best one-chord tune. And yeah, "Tomorrow Never Knows" is a C pedal tone with a B-flat over it; "chords" don't really describe this song anyway. Same thing with "Blue Jay Way," it's just a drone/mode over C. "One Note Samba" is actually a fiendishly difficult song with a zillion chords. Most later James Brown things are really blues with something left out, like "Sex Machine" is A6 which goes to D and some chromatic shit in there. That Nilsson tune is one seventh chord. Anyway, yeah Geir, please give up sometimes, the Elmore James song is a fucking song, so is "Coconut" and so is "Sex Machine" and "Super Bad" and "It's a New Day" and "There It Is."

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 17 June 2005 02:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't see anywhere in the notes on "Blue Jay Way" to state that there's more than 1 chord in the song. I see how it shows that melody notes and fills are added to the one chord, which I already knew. It stays in C for the whole song.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Friday, 17 June 2005 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't see anywhere in the notes on "Blue Jay Way" to state that there's more than 1 chord in the song. I see how it shows that melody notes and fills are added to the one chord, which I already knew. It stays in C for the whole song.


hum...to me there's a slight change with D#. but haven't listened to it in a while so i may be wrong...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Friday, 17 June 2005 07:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Sly Stone's "Thank You" is just about my favorite song ever, but I wouldn't quite call it a one-chorder--think of the little break that got sampled for Janet Jackson's "Rhythm Nation."

Sonic Youth play "Within You Without You" as a one-chorder on Sgt. Pepper Knew My Father.

Very few of James Brown's funk-era songs are actually on a single chord--there's almost always a bridge (which is almost always on a IV chord).

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 17 June 2005 08:04 (eighteen years ago) link

"Thank You" has one bass line in the entire song, which is in E. Where are you saying it moves? Try playing any other chord besides E7 against the riff--it doesn't sound right. The whole thing's in E.

Keith C (kcraw916), Friday, 17 June 2005 10:06 (eighteen years ago) link

>Sly Stone's "Thank You" is just about my favorite song ever, but I wouldn't quite call it a one-chorder--think of the little break that got sampled for Janet Jackson's "Rhythm Nation."

Don't have the first version at hand, but the songbook I have for Sly's "Riot" has that version as A7. "Riot" is just about my favorite album ever.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 17 June 2005 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"This Song Has One Chord" by Art Paul Schlosser

[Sung]

This song has one chord
This song has one chord
This song has one chord

[Spoken]

And that's why you're bored

[Sung]

One chord
You're Bored
One chord
You're bored

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 20 June 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

This speaks well of ILM, but I don't remember a thread with more factually wrong answers.

If you're talking about a song, not just one instrument, chords are formed by all the notes you hear. If the singer hits a note that's NOT part of that chord, it changes the chord of the song to something else.

None of George Harrison's Beatles songs are one-chord.

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 20 June 2005 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Yabbut, I suspect the point is more along the lines of refuting "OMG taht's a bad band bcuz they only know 3 cords OMG they suck."

Fetishization of difficulty as a prog-rock shibboleth and all that.

If we can find a song that doesn't require a lot of chords to play [meaning, here, guitar chords] and is undeniably a fantastic song, then the equation of "knowing a lot of chords" with "making good music" can be further shown to be a false equation. It opens out, then, into the larger discussion of Does Technique Help or Harm?

Now that I think about it, though, one might add that inasmuch as the comparatively-hard-to-perceive pitches of drums and cymbals and other percussion instruments play into the finished sound of a song, then those ought also to be counted in with the "chord" that is being played by the band. Also harmonic resonances in the room, as well as sounds supplied by effects (e.g., reverb and chorus) would also have to be considered, as they will almost never be exactly the same note as the singer/instrumentalist is making. Isn't that in fact the whole point of a chorus effect, that one copy of the sound is detuned slightly?

So there may not in fact BE any one-chord songs if you follow that logic.

The Mad Puffin, Monday, 20 June 2005 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

If you're talking about a song, not just one instrument, chords are formed by all the notes you hear. If the singer hits a note that's NOT part of that chord, it changes the chord of the song to something else.


Well, hmm, I mean this doesn't sound right to me. The structure of a song--talking in the language-of-chords/harmonic language kinda thing--is unchanged whether you decide to sing or play a note over that's "not in the chord." Lester Young did it all the time, and he was playing the song, right? He wasn't changin' the chord, he was having fun with what the overall structure implied. This is basically what jazz does, right? The whole point of learning all the stuff you have to learn to be able to play jazz is to deveop that facility; re-harmonizing. I think what you're talking about is what I'd call "arranging." If I'm playing a song that has a B7 and a D-flat in it, and I play an F natural over the B7, it doesn't change the fact that the chord is B7--I'm, I hope, playing the F natural because I want to say something about the D-flat chord, which contains a F natural, not because I'm somehow "changing the B7 into another chord."

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 20 June 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

rockist thread rockist thread.

Piano Man, Monday, 20 June 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

idiotic post idiotic post.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

...playing the F natural because I want to say something about the D-flat chord, which contains a F natural...

Right, I mean playing or singing something NOT contained in the chord.

Obviously dissonance is a gray area, I'll buy that you're hearing a variation of the same chord sometimes. But if your ear hears it as a change or a progression, it probably is one. Sometimes chord changes are implied by nothing but one changed note, and you hear it as a change.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure Pete S is right here. His is the only definition that makes sense to me. I know music a bit from playing music but am by no means knowledgable, however, I am confident that none of the songs mentioned above that I actually know are 1 chord songs. esp Tomorrow Never Knows and both "Yeah" and "Losing My Edge" by LCD Soundsystem (Yeah has 3 chords during a single repetition of the bassline).

Ian Kynnersley (Wobble), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 12:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Actually I think the proposition "a song can be numbingly simple, in terms of musicianship, and still be good" is a fairly anti-rockist position.

Doesn't rockism generally hail chops, up to a certain point?

The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 22 June 2005 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I would hope that the comment "idiotic post" isn't directed at mine, above. If it isn't, fine; if it is, I might ask why my perfectly reasonable words about the difference between re-harmonizing a tune, where you do indeed change chords, and just playing a note that is "outside the chords" (which is in itself hardly straightforward, as I tried to express by using examples from jazz) evokes such a response, since I'm, I believe, being perfectly polite. And again, "if a singer hits a note that's not a part of the chord"--this does not mean the chord itself is changed, since *melodies* use passing tones and other notes that aren't necessarily within the chord itself. If I play a G minor 7 and I sing an F-sharp as part of the melody and the next chord is D natural, that doesn't make the G minor 7 something else, it just means that the melody is working off the ambiguity implied by the chord progression. These kind of things are built into songs that someone has sat down and through through, a good example is a tune I've been playing around with lately, Big Star's "Back of a Car," where you have a D major chord with a G-sharp melody line--it's expressed as an E over a D, and plus you're getting into a whole-tone scale there too, and it doesn't mean you've somehow changed the D chord to something else; they are two things working together to create an effect, which is very different from "changing the chord." And again, if the comment wasn't directed toward me, my apologies.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Exactly. If, for instance, I sing a C over an A5, it wouldn't make the chord an A minor; I can bend that note up to C# and the chord won't automatically become A major; etc (in this case, it will just give the tune a vaguely Eastern feel but you'll hear the same A5 chugging under it)

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

janet jackson - alright.

g e o f f (gcannon), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the "idiotic post idiotic post" was directed at the "rockist thread rockist thread" preceeding it.

Just trying to maintain ILM's much-vaunted civility.

John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I always think a cool example of this is Howlin' Wolf's "No Place To Go," where the vocal line goes through blues changes but the accompaniment just vamps on one (the I) chord.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

and both "Yeah" and "Losing My Edge" by LCD Soundsystem (Yeah has 3 chords during a single repetition of the bassline).

Uh, wrong.

Keith C (kcraw916), Thursday, 23 June 2005 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link

If you're talking about a song, not just one instrument, chords are formed by all the notes you hear. If the singer hits a note that's NOT part of that chord, it changes the chord of the song to something else.

None of George Harrison's Beatles songs are one-chord.

http://www.simpsonspark.com/images/whitepages/hutz_lionel.jpg
That was a right-pretty speech, sir.

Although the Harrison songs don't match the proper definition of a true one-chord song, they do all contain instruments which plays 5 chords throughout the songs' entireties. So there is at least one instrument which plays only one chord for the whole song, and the bass notes remain stagnant as well. It may not fit the definition you're anticipating, but it does answer what the question was asking.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:01 (eighteen years ago) link

"karen" the b-side to the first Go-Betweens single

OCP (OCP), Thursday, 23 June 2005 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

galaxie 500 do not have any one chord songs

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 23 June 2005 05:57 (eighteen years ago) link


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