The Wind That Shakes The Barley was just okay, but I'll definitely take it over No Country and (most especially) Zodiac.
― milo z, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link
i mean i really liked wind shakes but i cant say i loved it. maybe i just cant fully commit to any kind of art that has no sense of humour whatsoever.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Imagine a world where every ILE film thread turns into a debate about the relative merits of Bamako, Offside and Away from Her.
I've only read NCfOM, but it didn't impress me as being solely about fate. I have no problem with genre pieces where people do stupid shit, especially in Texas.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link
you should see it morbz. and on the big screen.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
offside rules though but you know that.
no country is ok, competently handled, i didn't hate it. but it's the 5th-best mccarthy book i've read and the, what, 4th- or 5th-best coen film i can think of. its acclaim really does mystify me, but so do lots of things.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link
(coen movies i like better: fargo, blood simple, raising arizona, the ladykillers) (ok kidding about the ladykillers. but not kidding about the big lebowski.)
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
i just cant fully commit to any kind of art that has no sense of humour whatsoever.
-- s1ocki, Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:24 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
otm
― gbx, Thursday, 17 January 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
THE LADYKILLERS?!?!?
You are mad.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link
xp: yeah, Cillian Murphy shoulda been braying about milkshakes just before he was executed. Instant hype and Oscar noms to follow.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
(ladykillers was a joke)
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
you know that's not what i mean.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
wind shakes was so... "DO YOU SEE? GET IT?? IRAQ MUCH??"
spoilers, yo
― omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
"wind shakes was so... "DO YOU SEE? GET IT?? IRAQ MUCH??""
I neither saw or cared much about that parallel.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link
at the end when it cuts straight to black and the "IRAQ MUCH?" title card comes up... chills.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
anyway like i said i did like it a lot... but loved it? think it was GREAT? not really.
ha, s1ocki, if that's your biggest objection to Barley -- it was Armond's too!!
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
NCFOM is better than Fargo. Fargo's too clever clever by a half.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link
nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! xp
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link
i think no country probably their best.
Brother-on-brother stories are as old as civil wars, I didn't really see Iraq at all.
My problem with Barley is that it wasn't humorless so much as emotionless.
― milo z, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link
ncfom isn't half-clever enough.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
I admit I've only begun to think that in the past 10 years. When I saw it initially I thought it was brilliant so I may end up feeling like that about NCFOM in 2020.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
fargo sucks.
― omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
"ncfom isn't half-clever enough."
It doesn't need to be.
boring and annoying. i used to kinda like it, too.
― omar little, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
xp Haven't seen anything I loved or thought was great from '07 yet. Or '06 (Inland Empire closest).
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
what does that even mean (re: clever/half-clever/whatever)
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
i have no idea.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
but among the things i think no country is not enough: clever, interesting, imaginative, smart. funny. scary. sad.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
(which are all things i think twbb and zodiac have plenty of.)
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Zodiac is a good big-budget cop show (Armond thinks the voices of the men inhabiting it are too high).
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link
no it's something more than that. you're not going to get away with dismissing a movie for its genre on this board, mister.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link
ok now i agree with slocki.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link
-- omar little, Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:09 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
insane
― and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link
fargo sucks
― gabbneb, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
xp
I'm not ... I just didn't find Zodiac an all-too-original example of that genre, the way its fans do.
Fargo is a smug funny-accent travesty.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
i love tommy lee jones but his marshall in the fugitive is about 500 times better than his cop in ncfom
― and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
shit, his speech to rosario dawson at the end of men in black 2 is better than anything in ncfom
― and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
here is why fargo doesn't suck
frances macdormand steve buscemi peter stomare william h macy harve presnell
carter burwell
― and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link
steve park john carroll lynch
steve reevis
― remy bean, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link
i think fargo got humanized by frances mcdormand. maybe being married to a coen helps. ncfom doesn't get humanized by anything.
― tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Zodiac is not a genre picture
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
are you kidding? josh mf brolin.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
-- remy bean, Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:21 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link
fuck yeah
― and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
josh brolin is... misdirected
― and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link
everyone is inscrutable and blank and we're supposed to project all these film crit motivations and desires onto them but i didnt really. i think the movie looked good and there were a couple half decent exchanges but to pretend its fucking with fargo or that its the best coen bros is crazy revisionism
― and what, Thursday, 17 January 2008 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link