Seinfeld: Classic or Dud

Perhaps if I watched it enough and could get into the rhythms, pick up the nuances (if there are rhythms to be gotten into and nuances to be picked up) and noticed the characters interacted with but ultimately transcended such carcicature, I'd like it better.

yes, Seinfeld is all about nuances and rhythms.

"staging and line delivery is better in 'W&G'"

The staging and line delivery (as well as the writing) are the main things that make Seinfeld so laugh-out-loud-able. Some of the funniest moments are based purely on the way one of the characters says something or a basic interaction (the other funniest moments come from an intricate and complicated script revealing itself).

Stan Brakhage loved this show but he had bad taste far as I can tell.

http://www.fredcamper.com/PF/Brakhage/hellitself2b.jpg

"Are you really gonna wear that thing?"

"All signs point to 'yes'".

(I actually work with a Neil, in accounting, and yes, we called him T-Bone for a while)

My fav line:
"I'm gone for two weeks and you turn my house into...into..Bourbon Street!"

http://wwwimage.cbs.com/primetime/king_of_queens/images/sub_bio_pic_jstiller.jpg

Will & Grace doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same
thread, much less paragraph. It's just so cheap and
obvious, although the pill-popping secretary is vaguely entertaining.

Thanks to this thread, I blurted out, "It's the Andrea Doria."

Argh. crosspost.

I watch reruns of this show whenever I have the chance, seriously. I'll watch 2-3 episodes a day if I'm watching TV and there isn't an episode of Survivor or Temptation Island on.

Jerry himself is probably the weakest link, but I find his "bad" acting not even bothersome. He does add some classic lines like "I just had a bowl of Kix" and of course there's the whole "awthatsashame" sort of dismissive lack of caring tone that informs the whole show. It's George, Kramer and Elaine who make the show hum like a fine-tuned Beemer. Plus the classic support cast (George's parents, Jerry's parents, Uncle Leo, Newman, Puddy, the Rosses, Mr. Pitt, J. Peterman) -- just excellent, excellent casting where each actor is probably playing the role of their career.

My favorite show of all time would still have to be The Simpsons, but overexposure to the more classic episodes has left me really not wanting to re-watch those episodes much, but something about Seinfeld is different. It puts other "comedies" like the shite that ABC shows (dumbass shows with Jim Belushi, John Ritter, etc.) to shame, even with the wacky slap-bass keyboards, bad poofy Jerry hair, and the black jeans/white sneakers look.

WHY THE FUCK ISN'T IT ON VIDEO??????

enrique: apparently the cast members had been in some sort of dispute over royalties--it's supposed to be out on DVD soon though.

enrique I think the other cast members were jealous of seinfeld's creator/producer credit and the spectacular amounts of money he made from that

you are clearly wrong, and not only is EVERY simpsons episode watchable (even if they suck, which many do) the best were written by Conan O'Brien.