Superhero Filmmakers: Where's Our Watchmen?

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some random alien whose supposed threat needs to be boosted with a psychic's brain (the brain bit kinda makes me feel Moore didn't really believe in the ending himself)

once again anything remotely metaphysical irritates Tuomas

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

you know Moore is a "magician" right?

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link

who cares

s1ocki, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

you're allowed to make whatever point you want but not being able to separate an artist from his work seems like a bit of a stumbling block when it comes to properly evaluating film/music/art/whatever.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, October 21, 2008 7:12 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

s1ocki, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

right I was referring to where Tuomas thinks that Moore doesn't "really believe" the ending - doesn't really matter if Moore "believed" it or not, but I don't see any evidence supporting that, given Moore's vocal interest in magic/occult/whathaveyou

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

anyway, that soundtrack looks pretty terrible i gotta say. might as well stick "i feel good" in there for the scene where night owl gets his costume on again.

s1ocki, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

looool

"Let's Get It On" interrupted by a record scratch for the scene where he can't get it up

I'm glad the chihuahua beat it this wkend (latebloomer), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

hahahah

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

A bit clichéd

totally. didn't Moore already use some of those exact same songs in the books, like, 20 years ago.

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

? he used one of them. Doubt Snyder wanted to bother licensing shitty Elvis Costello songs or Iggy Pop's "Neighborhood Threat"

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Desolation Row and All Along The Watchtower = one song?

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

MEGAMIX!!!

s1ocki, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link

oh sorry I didn't see that - my eyes glazed over after the words "My Chemical Romance" and the only Dylan song I noticed was "The Times They Are a Changin' Into A Bank Commercial"

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

isn't 'unforgettable' in there as well?

allez, allons-y, on y va (ledge), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes.

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link

it is? where? don't remember that one

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link

nostalgia ad - see #7, p13, panels 8-9

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link

ah - I stand corrected thx

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

and I feel like this guy right now:

http://missgeeky.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/comic-book-guy.gif

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

the times they are a-changin' is in there too... and while tuomas is painfully off-base on the appropriateness of the soundtrack I have to grant that the dylan shit was kind of dire in the original too

my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

some random alien whose supposed threat needs to be boosted with a psychic's brain (the brain bit kinda makes me feel Moore didn't really believe in the ending himself)

once again anything remotely metaphysical irritates Tuomas

That's not really what I meant, rather than the whole idea of the psychic's brain comes from nowhere, and it felt like Moore added it there because the idea of a common alien enemy uniting the US and the USSR is so far-fetched that it needed this silly bit of boosting to make it sound better. Also, the world of Watchmen seem to have any other paranormal things going on... Dr. Manhattan, the only other person with real superpowers, is explained with science (even if it is pseudo-science), so the idea of a psychic strong enough to influence thousands of people feels kinda tacked on compared to the relative realism of the rest of the story. So I'm not complaining about metaphysics per se, rather than Moore using them in a way that doesn't really fit the other parts of the comic.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:53 (fifteen years ago) link

"the world of Watchmen doesn't seem to have any other paranormal things going on"

Tuomas, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

If a guy who can control atoms and see through time can be explained with science, then psychic powers can be explained with science.

chap, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link

The missing squid doesn't bother me that much, but I *will* be annoyed if you don't see Rorschach's journal arrive at Nova Express' office.

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

They couldn't get the John Cale song that concludes everything?

Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

The whole thing squid scheme and how it so suddenly achieved peace was always the weakest part of the comic.

I don't even remember it achieving peace...as my brane remembers it it was just like "oh fuck squid, of shit gore, oh man disquieting, ps I finished reading the pirate book."

Abbott, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Glad they decided against Rorschach's body stocking.

chap, Monday, 27 October 2008 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I read something this morning that suggested that the non-squid ending news leak was just them testing the waters and that the squid ending does exist. Can't find the link though...

Buffcoat and Beaver or Beaver and something else (jeff), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Ronan!

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 05:49 (fifteen years ago) link

The tagline to that poster kinda reveals the ending of the story, doesn't it? Not that anyone who hasn't already read the comic would guess it.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 10:26 (fifteen years ago) link

you've answered your own question there. it's vague enough, just glad the horned lioness type thing is up in this.

Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 12:50 (fifteen years ago) link

There's another oblique spoiler in the trailer, in that it cuts from Blake being thrown out the window straight to a shot of Viedt.

chap, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link

how often do you see a cinematic adaptation marketed with a similar aesthetic to the published work? man that typeface is a beacon amongst the madly ugly posters for movies that concern themselves with the fate of the world.

siskin/skulls, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 13:17 (fifteen years ago) link

that poster is terrible!!

check out bubastis tho

s1ocki, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

and what kind of tagline is that?

s1ocki, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

What is the name of that typeface?

I would so not be sad if it replaced Impact in everything but lolcats.

Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

they're doing posters for all the main characters:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39054

I wonder if birds - even dinosaur birds - were created in mid-air, (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

this is the only poster i actually like so far:

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/1448/watchmenteaserposterxu7.jpg

I wonder if birds - even dinosaur birds - were created in mid-air, (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

tagline's still kinda ass tho

I wonder if birds - even dinosaur birds - were created in mid-air, (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

The Manhattan one's not bad.

chap, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

What is the name of that typeface?

think it's Futura Condensed Bold - pretty much identical to the one used by The Sun for most headlines

and yes Impact must die

Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Tuesday, 11 November 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

They should of used this guy as veidt
http://seat42f.com/site/images/stories/tvshows/TheMentalist/simon-baker-the-mentalist-tca.jpg
the wrong choice for veidt and the stupid punchlines are the only things I see wrong with this movie so far

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 00:10 (fifteen years ago) link

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Gukbe, Friday, 14 November 2008 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link

whoops

Gukbe, Friday, 14 November 2008 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link


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