Neil Young's TRANS: An Underrated Masterpiece, or Justly Ignored?

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or rather, "enjoy"

tylerw, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link

just remembered that the non-LP single version of Mr Soul was better than the one on Trans. Never checked to see if it was available. I remember it as being a denser/louder sound. Anyone know if it's out there as MP3, bonus track .. ( I could search, I guess.)

dave225, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I've seen Human Highway before & I totally enjoyed it.

I X Love (Abbott), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Underrated half-assterpiece. The half that's good is my favorite Neil Young I've ever heard.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Trans is so fucking good. Especially loud.

harmonies on Sample & Hold are godlike.

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:13 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

yeah, seriously, "sample and hold" owns. juiced up severed heads with sweet harmonies or a kinder gentler skinny puppy

brimstead, Sunday, 19 April 2015 08:09 (nine years ago) link

Rated #20 (out of 35) in this piece of click bait. FWIW I like Trans a lot; would certainly make the bottom half of my top 10 Neil records.

http://www.stereogum.com/1445091/neil-young-albums-from-worst-to-best/franchises/counting-down/attachment/trans/

Bloody Snail, Sunday, 19 April 2015 09:09 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...

Listening to this in full for the first time (on slightly hissy O.G. VINYL that I've actually had for a long time) after dipping into Shakey again, and being intrigued by the perverse idea of Neil using the Synclavier to do note for note replacements of Crazy Horse backing tracks. The non-electro songs would've been at quite at home on a mythical early 80s CSNY album (or Daylight Again, if S & N went to Y instead of ringers and the then at death's door C).

I wonder how pissed Geffen got when he heard ZZ Top's Eliminator, which dropped a few months after Trans and used electronics in similar ways, and realized how horribly right this project could have gone.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 January 2016 01:00 (eight years ago) link

I'd call it Unjustly Not Ignored. But I know it has lots of defenders.

clemenza, Saturday, 2 January 2016 01:57 (eight years ago) link

After I got done with Trans, I put on a vinyl copy of The Bridge tribute (which I think scored in the same haul about 7 years ago). The Sonic Youth "Computer Age" was nice, but I get the feeling they could've picked anything from the Young catalogue and it would have come sounded exactly the same as that cover.

"Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 January 2016 05:16 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

In case anyone cares, a whole raft of recordings from the Solo Trans tour have just been upped on D1mead0zen.

Maresn3st, Saturday, 5 October 2019 16:11 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

He wasn't terrible in the 1980's.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 November 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

he's reissuing Eldorado!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 November 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link

no fan need own this travesty, in which Young and the International Harvesters treat country like Sid Vicious did “My Way.”

Lol, nice.

the colour out of space (is the place) (PBKR), Friday, 13 November 2020 01:27 (three years ago) link

haha yeah, for my money his worst album

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 November 2020 02:37 (three years ago) link

the unplugged cast-off recording of "sample and hold" is well worth finding. "hold on to your love" is one of those great, lyrically simple songs of his that i would hope older takes exist.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 13 November 2020 06:58 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

trans

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:26 (three years ago) link

i buy used copies of this vinyl on the cheap whenever I see it with the intention of handing them out to bring new members into the blessed Trans fold.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link

Well. I wish I was an Aztec,
Or a runner in Peru
I would build such
beautiful buildings
To house the chosen few
Like an Inca from Peru.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link

such a weird record, and the "sad robot" vibes ARE Dicsovery-onwards Daft Punk 20 years early

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

love the extended mix of Mr Soul on the Sample & Hold single

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link

It's almost hard to imagine people hating on Neil's vocoder vocals now that processed vocals are so ubiquitous in popular music. Like, Transformer Man sounds downright quaint now. He'd have to type the lyrics into a computer and build up the songs 100% digitally rather than just processing analog inputs if he wanted to make a futuristic statement these days.

BrianB, Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link

such a good album

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link

cis crusher
cis crusher

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 26 March 2021 00:36 (three years ago) link

said it before and I’ll say it again- if you haven’t heard the “sample and hold” castoff from his mtv unplugged session yr missing out

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 26 March 2021 01:05 (three years ago) link

sample and hold is sick, industrial

brimstead, Friday, 26 March 2021 02:30 (three years ago) link

satisfaction guaranteed

brimstead, Friday, 26 March 2021 02:31 (three years ago) link

the archives release i want the most is the "real" trans - the all synth album that was eventually turned into the existing trans where the more traditional rock songs were taken from the scrapped 82 album "johnny's island"

neil is releasing johnny's island, i hope that clears the way for the complete trans.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/neil-young-johnnys-island-1121757/

it's supposed to contain my most desired neil unreleased track, an all-synth version of "razor love" which ended up on silver & gold, this would sound so amazing w/sequencers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKNCAQQaNP8

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link

omg want

I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link

also interestingly, on some of the first pressing of trans there was a song "if you got love" that was cut so late in the process that it's actually on the back cover tracklist, that song has never been heard either as far as i know

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1779/8843/products/trans3_1024x1024.jpg

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:20 (three years ago) link

I read about "Razor Love" in Shakey, but I couldn't find the original

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

yeah I don't think it's ever surfaced, tyler would know for sure but i've never seen anything

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

assuming if you got love went all the way through mastering if it was listed on the cover art

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link

I kind of prefer the shorter version of "Sample and Hold" to the 8-minute CD version, would be good to have both easily available.

a sad robot dancing alone in the corner of a suburban disco (Matt #2), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link

I first knew sample and hold and transformer man via the lucky thirteen comp

brimstead, Friday, 26 March 2021 16:32 (three years ago) link

me too! that was a cool comp back in the day esp when that era was largely unknown (to me at least)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link

it's amazing that the catchy, accessible, occasionally moving (now unintentionally retrofurist) electronic stuff is what people took issue with on this album considering how dire the more traditional stuff is (the first track, my god). if had been all synth based it would be great rather than pretty good

nothing (Left), Friday, 26 March 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link

Been saying the same for years. As I understand it, the electronic stuff was recorded first but I don't think there was enough of it for an entire album.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link

... typographic mistake. The album is actually called TRAINS

StanM, Friday, 26 March 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link

i don't think the trad stuff is that bad, but it's obvious the real meat of the album is the trans-ass trans tracks

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 26 March 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

Like An Inca is great, the rest of the non-electronic tracks not so much

a sad robot dancing alone in the corner of a suburban disco (Matt #2), Friday, 26 March 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

we know you'll be satisfied
when you energize

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 26 March 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

As stated, the opening track is terrible.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link

"Hold On to Your Love" is nice though, if a bit wet.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link

because i love thematically messy albums, i have to say that —while i love trans quite a lot and consider it one of the last hurrahs of truly classic neil— it could be improved by adding 'wanderin' from everybody's rockin' because why the hell not.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

the wiki for trans says "After a year of work, the album was mixed in a hurry because Young was eager to go out on tour (documented in the home video Neil Young in Berlin), and a last-minute change in the running order is evident in the inclusion of a song called "If You Got Love" in the track listing and lyric sheet, even though it is not on the album.[3] Portions of several tracks appeared in Young's 1982 feature-length comedy film Human Highway.[11]"

i've never seen human highway, so i'm not sure if this means that portions of songs that were ON trans were featured in human highway or if some of the cut songs were?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link

I had that Berlin vhs, it’s great - don’t know what happened to it ☹️

jammy mcnullity (wins), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link

Nils Lofgren is wonderfully hamming it up in that Berlin performance iirc

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 26 March 2021 18:37 (three years ago) link

that i know is supposed to be re-released

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link

I rented it from Netflix in the mid '00s.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 March 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link


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