Banksy C/D

Banksy toys and gets toyed 'by scorned graffiti legend 'King Robbo''

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I really liked Exit Through the Gift Shop. Does this mean I like Banksy now?

^^^

i think my record is p clear on banksy

i think he's shit

but 'exit' is the best film i've seen all year

i genuinely didn't know, at the end, if MBW was real

i still don't, entirely

but it doesn't matter that much

douchebags like this take him seriously:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-02-18/who-is-mr-brainwash/?cid=tag:all1

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/04/banksy_mr_brainwash.html

my 2c are paper-only, which actually kind of sucks

this needs cross-posting here

http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-grandmother-comes-forward-as-banksy%2C17604/

is there really no thread for Exit Through the Gift Shop?

I really enjoyed it but thought it was soured by banksy and sheperd fairy informing us that MBW's work is bullshit at the end, instead of just letting the work speak for itself.

Yeah, it was strange how Banksy allowed himself and Sheperd Fairy to look like losers in this. All the build up about how cool they were supposed to be already made them look like total nerds but it all came together at the end. eg. the bit where Sheperd Fairy says "I don't really know who the joke's on" is hilarious since it just prompts you to shout at the screen "THE FUCKING JOKES ON YOU!". The really poor thing about this movie was the pointlessly dramatic voice-over stuff by Rhys Ifans which was really distracting, partly because he was mostly talking shit and also because it sounded like Ringo's narration of "The Point".

uh

no

pretty sure the joke's on you 'everything'

Hah - hoaxed ya!

i wrote on the netflix thread that Exit... is like a mash-up of Borat and that Joaquin Phoenix hip-hop doc. It's like a lesser Chris Guest film for people who were late on street art. Still brought a couple lolz.

Not sure who 'the joke' is on in this, i dont think its on anyone. All the people lined up outside his opening show? They got to be seen at a huge art event. The people who think they are buying from a real street artist? I would say all the footage of this guy following street artists for years is proof of his experience in the field.

people who think mr. brainwash is "fake" are trippin

when I have a gallery show that I will throw feces at a fan to let people know that "the sh*t is hitting the fan." I will also ride into the gallery on a very high horse. Then I will ascend an actual ivory tower which I will invite Banksy to deface.

I still wonder if I can get a grant to do this.

Not sure who 'the joke' is on in this, i dont think its on anyone. All the people lined up outside his opening show? They got to be seen at a huge art event. The people who think they are buying from a real street artist? I would say all the footage of this guy following street artists for years is proof of his experience in the field.

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, December 16, 2010 9:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

"All the people lined up outside his opening show? They got to be seen at a huge art event."

well, not really

people who think mr. brainwash is "fake" are trippin

― u aint messin w/ my dengue (gr8080), Thursday, December 16, 2010 4:41 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

has there been any definitive news abt wtf exactly was goin on in this movie which was good despite the fact that street art is the worst shit

It's like a lesser Chris Guest film for people who were late on street art. Still brought a couple lolz.

― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, December 15, 2010 8:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

steve shasta when did u get in on the street art scene

re: MBW: my friend "always sees him" when she goes out in LA, especially art openings etc

just cause hes a real guy doesnt mean hes totally a real guy, some parts seemed realer than others

has there been any definitive news abt wtf exactly was goin on in this movie which was good despite the fact that street art is the worst shit

― ice cr?m, Friday, December 17, 2010 12:25 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

i <3'd the film because i had no idea if MBW was real, because im not into street art, because it's shit

if i'd known anything about him it wouldn't have worked as well

he does seem *so* derivative that it's hard to believe he's really 100% real

i can confirm that he is an actual human being

Everyone in LA personally knows and loves Mr. Brainwash (especially people like myself, Jeff and Spencer who go to art openings). It's not our fault if our city is too real for y'all to handle.

the part that seemed most suspicious to me was the clip of the movie he made being all jump cuts of car crashes and shit, it was just too lol

also banskey and faireys smdh codas seemed pretty canned

The most unreal part of this movie was when they showed little clips of MBW's documentary and it was all super fast editing and really intense sound design. Sort of looked too well put together to be by someone who had 'no idea how to make videos'.

Yeah ice cr?m OTM

...or am i

also banskey and faireys smdh codas seemed pretty canned

― ice cr?m, Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:38 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

^^hated this part. nearly ruined it for me

also banskey and faireys smdh codas seemed pretty canned

― ice cr?m, Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:38 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

i think this is what made me think that mr brainwash was not totally real

that part seemed pretty condescending. like "you can be in our club but DONT REALLY be in our club"

they seemed canned but it was kinda staged rueful lols that i thought worked pretty well

it did seem to take rather for granted that there was a huge gulf between his shit and their shit, which is questionable

eh their is pretty obvs better imo

which is why wouldnt it be funny if they created all mbw work and then complained abt it sucking

well i p much h8 fairey so

the level of precision in his designs is pretty much unmatched imo, overall steez is k lame tho

this was entertaining. i remember seeing an episode of Carson Daly's late night show a year or two back where he's cluein' bros in on hot new shit around town and it was about MBW.

it did seem to take rather for granted that there was a huge gulf between his shit and their shit, which is questionable

― zvookster, Friday, December 17, 2010 1:31 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

otm, but i think the film allows you to think this -- the film isn't formally authored by banksy and the joke could be partly on him and his narcissism-of-small-diffs air of superiority over MBW.

the huge gulf between quality of respective works is one thing what made people wonder re authenticity

mbw's work is cryingly awful, even in comparison

true

lot of the big street art shit is pretty corny (no Banksy fan), but the MBW stuff is so next-level. like a Target co-opt.

This doc is great, on so many levels. Assuming it's all legit - and given the parties involved, that's a big assumption - the joke's either on:

1) Fairey and Banksy, for arrogantly allowing MBW all those ride-alongs, and then being backed into the position of either accepting him as an equal (despite superficial differences) or dismissing him as an imitation (and thus devaluing their own work)

2) The fools lining up for MBW's faux street art

3) Everyone assuming the movie isn't just an elaborate Banksy meta-prank, which is not out of the realm of possibility (it is branded "A Banksy Film," after all)

4) Anyone who has ever assigned an arbitrary value to a work of art, ever.

think it might be 2-4 tbh

i dunno i'm not remembering it perfectly but i really thought there was an obvious "oh snap" moment when it seemed clear-ish that something puckish was going on

mbw's work is cryingly awful, even in comparison

― ice cr?m, Friday, December 17, 2010 5:04 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

I would love an Elvis w Fischer Price Machine Gun poster! Plus some of those sculptures he did with random Star Wars references were pretty funny. I mean, it's not SMASH CAPITALISM or OBEY BIG BROTHER but it has its own appeal.

i think josh's #1 is correct, but i think that that is intentional, that banksy WANTS you to think the joke's on him

i think the film allows you to think this

i agree with this yeah, that's one of the questions it's presenting u with

I would love an Elvis w Fischer Price Machine Gun poster! Plus some of those sculptures he did with random Star Wars references were pretty funny. I mean, it's not SMASH CAPITALISM or OBEY BIG BROTHER but it has its own appeal.

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Friday, December 17, 2010 6:58 AM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^very important post

"that banksy WANTS you to think the joke's on him"

Or at least allow that it might be a possibility. I loved this movie btw.