torchlight - a baby diablo

i think you have a typo in the word smells and posted to the wrong thread but yes they're very good at it

don't make me put on my wizard hat

sand in your wizard's sleeve

finally got to the point where i'm getting killed regularly. game really enforces the "okay, better slow down" boundary.

finally got around to playing this. cleared out the mines. really does satiate my diablo fix.

keep reading this as "torchlight - a baby diplo"

MIA named her kid Torchlight?

should have jumped on this for $5, huh

that's what she said

looks like she heard my wish

any idea how this handles with a trackpad? or do I have to bother with a mouse for maximal killing action?

i'm doing ok with one

cool; gonna be a few days before I try this prob as I also bought civ 4 on the steam sale but I'm looking forward to the mayhem

computer froze during this :(

this takes everything annoying about d2 and smooths it out

item drops suck in this; seems I always need to upgrade my weapons at the merchants which is very lame

I started this last night. It's lots of fun. Control with a trackpad is a little imprecise but it's mostly that when I got ganked by a big group of mobs it was hard to click on individual mobs. Fortunately my dog helped clean up the mess.

I made level 4, but I'm not sure if I want to keep playing as a tank. It's my default just b/c I tend to hack and slash even as a mage and I like the thrill of upgrading weapons and seeing an immediate crushing impact, rather having my mana go up. Well, I guess I can replay this, or just create a mage and see if I like it more that way.

Euler: shift key helps with that. it sticks you in place to attack

huh yeah that would help! cool

this is the diablo crack, alright. word of warning - those pocket dungeons you can buy out of the shop? absolutely BRUTAL. You can't warp out, and they're super hard, so stock up on potions like mad... took me ages just to do one floor, after which i gave up... nice thing at least i was super buffed for the story game and other missions at the "proper" level

Level 24 tank

ugh spending way too much time reading the torchlight forums

zero-punct'd
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1385-Torchlight

He obviously did that one for the paycheck, as it really doesn't say anything. I mean, even for yahtzee.

While I enjoy the hell out of this game, but it's also kind of the epitome of the stuff we were talking about in the "envy" thread, where i know there's no substance to this at all, it's just hollow, massively time-consuming entertainment, yet so fun. I am staying far, far away from the MMO when that comes out.

haha I was thinking of that envy of gameres thread too when I was playing last night

Torchlight
65 hrs

yeaaaaa half of those are mine

I've been playing in offline mode, otherwise I'd add 20 more hours to that. haah

I bought a Heal II spell and then stupidly "accidentally" unlearned it...down 2000 gold but whatever, I have so many heal potions that it doesn't matter I guess for now.

gold was rolling in when I went into the level 1-10 pocket dungeon which was more fun than the normal dungeon b/c it was harder. I'm playing on normal so maybe that's why this seems kinda easy and thus kinda silly to me...despite that I'm still gonna play through b/c it's satisfying in the way it's satisfying to play an old-school arcade shooter like 1942, full of mechanical violence without worries about "plot".

Oh yeah that reminds me of something I wanted to mention. This is a small thing in scope, but I love the fact that when you start a new game, and they give you a description for each difficulty. Sure - maybe it seems obvious what "Easy", "Medium", "Hard" and "Very Hard" mean, but it never is, since you never know what basis a game is using that as (like what's "Normal" difficulty, and to who?). Since the description for Hard actually say it was for people who had played Action RPGs before and I think it says Very Hard is for masochists or something like that, I knew Hard was the way to go for me. Every game with difficulty settings at the start should have verbose explanations, since you usually can't change the difficulty mid-way (and even when you can - it usually feels like a cop-out, TWEWY-aside).

I felt kind of stupid about being shocked about the pocket dungeon above - I didn't realize the Level 1-10 doesn't refer to your character level but to a random floor of the main dungeon, so I think the first time I picked up one it was like 5 floors ahead of where I was. Also more lulz at that post - I was probably inches away from the portal exit, since they end shortly after you hit the second floor.

I usually pick Normal because I'm not very good at games, but here I wish I'd picked Hard. Aside from the pocket dungeons, it's not even possible to be harder on yourself (go down further, faster) because you'll just end up leveling as you clear all the mobs on the linear path.

That said, crushing things and making them go splat is pretty satisfying.

huh I didn't realize that the levels in the random dungeon were random. I'm glad I got a difficult one!

Wait, so can you change difficulties in this? Google search is just confusing me: it says you can now do it with a patch but only in "console": does that mean I can't do it in the main game and have to load some other program?

I have no problem with changing difficulties midway through, if it makes a game more fun for me. Fun's the only reason I'm playing. I think I would like to move up to Hard in this.

Ah, didn't realize that you could do that! The console is in the game, but you need to change line in the settings.txt file to enable it. See here for info on that file's location - easiest way is to run %appdata% and browse to the runic games\torchlight folder.

http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Torchlight/Console

It's not listed there but after hitting Shift+~ ingame, the command should be SETDIFFICULTY 2. Valid numbers are 0-3 for the different difficulty levels.

ok cool, I will do that!

I assume steam games get patched automatically?

yep yep

once you enable the console you can also redistribute your character's skillpoints - type 'respecpotion' into the console

i'm told that labels you a "cheater" and you can no longer share items with other characters

It looks (from reading around) that changing difficulty doesn't make you a "cheater", but changing other stuff in console can.

you mean some random person on the TL forums was incorrect?!?!?!??!

haha I think it was fixed in a patch but fuck, reading online about this game isn't very helpful for some reason.

I think respecpotion is officially sanctioned; not sure

runic games' forum is a good place for info

Ok, those forums DO have a lot of info! Though i now i realize i may have to respec my summoner/caster/dual-wand (ok maybe I did try too many things) Alchemist since i dumped too many points in the wrong skills. The game does encourage this, though, with the skill level tiering - which is totally cool - because it IS more fun to try out a dozen different abilities than to power build - though my eyes are definitely changing for my games with the other classes. Glad the respec potion exists, though, so I don't have to completely start over with Alchemist!

I hit level 10 last night and am thinking, even with kicking the level up to Hard, that this isn't going to take so long to complete. So I'm cool with screwing up my tank by choosing specs badly and then playing again as a blaster. It's mostly just dumb button-mashing fun for me so far, kinda like Marvel Ultimate Alliance (I played Diablo but not Diablo 2, and it was a long time ago...this is the first game like this I've played since then).

Haha, don't worry about completing the game here, trust me. There's... something afterward.

haha ok, I guess I can create multiple characters then? I want to see how the other classes work, esp. b/c I'm avoiding distance weapons and (for the most part) spells with my tank.

sure, why not? all your characters stay selectable/reloadable from the main screen in any case

cool, I think I'll do that then!

wow, playing on hard really cleared my sinuses out, so to speak: I was midway through a pocket dungeon (level 8; my char is level 10) and I ended up dying uh, 6 times? And that was just on the small second floor. Then I went back to the main dungeon and I did better, so I guess it was just the beefed-up pocket mobs that were the trouble.

best tip from the forums so far, if you haven't seen this:

before you go to the gambling man in town, put a socketed item in your pet's inventory. mouse over an item the diceman is selling. if:

-it has at least 3 requirements (level + 2 attribs)
-the socket/gem appears on the item in your pet's inventory

you have a 90% chance of getting a rare/unique item. (maybe all unique items have 4 requirements? dunno.) yeah i was complaining about being overpowered earlier. whatever, now i have a mace with a ram's head.

hah - I just sunk a couple of points into Barter, too. maybe I'll turn my chararcter into a gold finder

Blow the money on enchantments! Well, on stuff you know you're not gonna give up for a while.

Heal All is all right, but generally it doesn't heal yourself enough, and you're going to be chugging potions when those mobs hit you. I'd rather stick it on the pet for occasional use and give the spell slot to something else. And it's just easier to resummon golems and shift-click potions to feed to pet.

If you're gonna keep going the summon route, I'd recommend doing Pet/Minion Mastery, Burning Bind, and Charm Mastery for the summon spells if you keep up with that. If you get Summon Skeleton or Blood Skeleton, you can have up to 5 of each at a time, but you do have to pump them out constantly since they expire after a set time, unlike your Golem skills. But as an Alchemist, I think unless you go for a weird Strength attack build you're going to have to do a lot of continuous skill key mashing. Even with my Destroyer, casting Frost Shield every 30 seconds was essential.

My strength is pretty low; I have a wand that's actually quite buff but I rarely use it; it's just ember bolt ember bolt ember bolt. I have Burning Bind at level 2 maybe. I'm not committed to any particular build, which is probably part of the problem; although actually I'm not sure there is a problem, just more my frustration with doing fine and then dying in one shot once in a while with those damned Dark Zealots. O/w I'm doing fine, even with Dragonkins up close they rarely get a hit on me.

You guys must be playing VH, right? I found a Summoner guide and Hard has been, as you said, not that much ...

"torchlight - a baby's dildo"

this is $5 on steam again if anyone hasn't played it yet

Mac port arrives with the debut of Steam on Mac tomorrow!

(and it's got Steam Play, so no need to pay for it twice, hooray)

Sweet. I will totally get this tomorrow.

any word on whether you can transfer your PC save games to Mac? I've been playing on XP on my Mac through Fusion/Boot Camp and though I lost interest in the game a few months ago (got too damn hard) I'd play more often if I didn't have to go into XP to play.

it has Steam Cloud support so everything should load cleanly on both OSs

nice!

So excited for this tomorrow! Way more than the Valve stuff.

It's Wednesday - where's my Mac Steam?

you are now introduced to Valve Time

I don't like Valve Time.

46% d/l'ed!

I just got the client - Torchlight, here I come!

I don't suppose there's a way to transfer savegames from my, um, unofficial Mac port to Steam.

you can probably just copy the savegame files from the runic games folder (though I don't know where they are yet in the steam mac version or the unofficial version - on windows they were in %appdata%/runic games/torchlight/save), just do it when Steam isn't on

Dang - it turns out it won't do Windows to Mac or vice versa cloud syncing for character saves (though oddly the mods did sync. Bummer. Fortunately, copying over my Windows saves manually did the trick, and the mods seemed to work as well.

good info, i will now give runic the $10 they more than deserve

Nhex, to where did you copy the Windows saves? And did they work? The forums suggest that you can't play your Windows saves in Torchlight Mac.

They worked for me, though I only tried one of my 3 characters, they all appeared on the load screen intact with play times, only error message was the mod mismatch warning. The Mac saves go in the same relative place as the Windows version, "%appdata%\runic games\torchlight" being "~\Library\Application Support\runic games\torchlight".

huh, yes, you're right, it works! It's funny, on the TL forum their staff was saying you can't do this b/c of some binary incompatibilities. Obv. that's false!

yep, weird developer excuses at play! especially weird since my mods synced fine

Love it!

so i guess now that this out for mac im getting it huh?

just in time for nice weather and lots of work that needs to be done!

Sequel announced - NOT the MMO, but a new single player game with online co-op modes! New classes, more MMO-style customization, outdoor environs...

http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/08/04/torchlight-2-interview-with-runic-games/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejqCZw4Mua4

Not Torchlight, but another Diablo-alike, Path of Exile, is having a public stress test this weekend. Not many New Zealand-made games around, so I'm curious to see how it holds up.

it's out. get hype.

no hype for me. Gotta wait for the Mac version.

hey guys, you know what's a good game? 2012's Torchlight II.