airlines should be required to employ a harrison ford lookalike on every flight; should be enough to intimidate any potential terrorists
― =皿= (dyao), Sunday, 27 December 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
it should be so easy to code an airplane that instead of crashing just sheds its wings and tail and deploys a giant parachute from its roof - wd only take airplane admin ten minutes
― HELLO MY NAME IS TWILIGHT AND I AM A DRACULA (acoleuthic), Sunday, 27 December 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
last time we flew transatlantic, we were sitting with small children next to us and a nun behind us, I seriously thought we were in some cliched disaster movie.
― ailsa, Sunday, 27 December 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
small children next to you transatlantic sounds like disaster enough to me tbh
― Not a reactionary git, just an idiot. (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 December 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
last time i was on a transatlantic, i was in the throes of getting a serious sinus infection, sitting next to a 65-year-old Polish woman who drank about nine beers during the course of the flight.
― And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i will be seriously disappointed if the maps w/the lil traveling airplane get turned off
co-sign, that's the best part. I am bringing my own map & a little Monopoly airplane from now on
― Herodcare for the Unborn (J0hn D.), Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
The map restriction truly means the terrorists have won.
But really, do these security types have any fucking idea what they are doing? Is this some kind of political ploy - like do something, anything to appear proactive?
― Super Cub, Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
don't come running to me when your guitar-case gets 'defused' xpost
― HELLO MY NAME IS TWILIGHT AND I AM A DRACULA (acoleuthic), Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link
apparently some nigerian guy went to the bathroom for an hour on another amsterdam -> detroit flight
― max, Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link
unclear whether or not hes a terrorist but it was enough to declare an emergency
― max, Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
in fairness to that guy though some of those inflight meals are pretty tough
― Herodcare for the Unborn (J0hn D.), Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/28/us/politics/w28talk.html?_r=1&hp
― max, Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link
rep peter king r ny getting all hot n bothered
“The fact is the system did not work, and we have to find a bipartisan way to fix it,” Mr. King said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “If that had been successful, the plane would have come down and we would have had a Christmas Day massacre with almost 300 people murdered.” *drools*
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
well we could cancel christmas from now on.
― Super Cub, Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe peter king should just be on all the planes
― max, Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
talk about monday morning quaterbacking...
― Super Cub, Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
lol http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/12/odds-of-airborne-terror.html
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 27 December 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link
We have a one in 83 chance of dying in a traffic accident.
― Super Cub, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
is that over a lifetime?
― caek, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
One of the columns in a security system trade mag I read last year best described this as 'security theater'
― kingfish, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Would-be bomber was an engineering student, that explains all...http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227127.200-can-university-subjects-reveal-terrorists-in-the-making.html?full=true
― Not the real Village People, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
yes, over a lifetime
number of deaths per year in U.S. divided by population divided by average lifetime.
― Super Cub, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
^xpost
can understand how the illogic of injustice and the mechanical solution of terror could particularly offend and appeal to engineering mind - jus fixin stuff
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 27 December 2009 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.nuff.ox.ac.uk/users/gambetta/Engineers%20of%20Jihad.pdf
Abstract.
We find that graduates from subjects such as science, engineering,and medicine are strongly overrepresented among Islamist movements in theMuslim world, though not among the extremist Islamic groups which haveemerged in Western countries more recently. We also find that engineers aloneare strongly over-represented among graduates in violent groups in bothrealms. This is all the more puzzling for engineers are virtually absent fromleft-wing violent extremists and only present rather than over-representedamong right-wing extremists. We consider four hypotheses that could explainthis pattern. Is the engineers’ prominence among violent Islamists an accidentof history amplified through network links, or do their technical skills makethem attractive recruits? Do engineers have a ‘mindset’ that makes them aparticularly good match for Islamism, or is their vigorous radicalizationexplained by the social conditions they endured in Islamic countries? Weargue that the interaction between the last two causes is the most plausibleexplanation of our findings, casting a new light on the sources of Islamicextremism and grounding macro theories of radicalization in a micro-levelperspective.
― Ari (whenuweremine), Sunday, 27 December 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/dec/27/gilded-life-of-plane-bomber
― caek, Sunday, 27 December 2009 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link
from a friend:
"feel bad for anyone else flying into the US in the next few weeks, after we went through regular security, our gate information kept on not getting posted. Then when we do get gate information,we find out that every passenger on every flight headed to the US is getting individually screened. Cue waiting in lines for the next two hours as we inch towards our gate. Our flight gets off 3 hours late, there's a bunch of new safety protocols that the flight attendants were actually arguing about in front of us. The craziest of which is for the last hour to hour and a half, every passenger is prohibited from getting up, using entertainment devices, or holding books and magazines!! Good times."
WHAT. THE. FUCK. kakistocracy imo, delete america, morbs wins
― dome plow (gbx), Monday, 28 December 2009 01:57 (fourteen years ago) link
(f'r real tho this shit is alarming and i wish these assholes would stop trying to blow up planes.)
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM
(j/k, sorta, but srsly---these rxns are why actual clinical morons are allowed to tell ppl that they can't HOLD BOOKS OR MAGAZINES because another actual clinical moron FAILED TO BLOW UP A PLANE)
― dome plow (gbx), Monday, 28 December 2009 02:00 (fourteen years ago) link
(i mean obv terror attempts are "alarming" and of course i wish no one blew up a plane ever, but suddenly being all "oh my goodness a terrorist!" is some naive chicken little bullshit. fact: lots of ppl want to blow up america, and it is at least half our own fault. other fact: there is a 1.0 x 10^(-7)% chance that this will ever become a problem for you, personally. but fretting about it in a way that is more vocal than shaking yr dang head or saying RIP victims is ~actually~ counterproductive, and gives crazy assholes license to run roughshod over ppl (both domestic and int'l) that they didn't give a shit about in the first place)
― dome plow (gbx), Monday, 28 December 2009 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link
i mostly agree. on a rational level, i totally agree. but the reaction to these things is not 100 percent rational -- which is why terrorism works -- and i can't help that i feel sort of glad i'm not planning on any international flights any time soon. i wouldn't cancel them if i had booked them or anything, but part of me would still be thinking "gee i hope no one blows up this plane." there's nothing wrong with wishing you lived in a world where that wasn't a concern.
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 28 December 2009 02:09 (fourteen years ago) link
no, i totally agree w/u. it's just that the usual mainstream (or w/e) rxn to this stuff makes me despair for humanity in a way that can actually outweigh the despair that comes with knowing that terrorists and terrorism is still like a thing we have to put up with
― dome plow (gbx), Monday, 28 December 2009 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link
so basically i am het up and bein a jerk
― dome plow (gbx), Monday, 28 December 2009 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link
no, i know what you mean. it's always like, there's no side you can feel good about being on. the terrorists are horrible people, the reaction to/against them is always colored by unsavory stuff that is either useless or worse, it's enough to make a guy just wanna go watch giant blue ecowarriors tear some shit up. which is what i'm gonna do.
― hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Monday, 28 December 2009 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link
oh man can i come
― dome plow (gbx), Monday, 28 December 2009 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link
also i am readin the monkey wrench gang (for the first time???) and am in general sympathetic to ecowarriors (PLZ DONT TELL THE FBI)
― dome plow (gbx), Monday, 28 December 2009 02:23 (fourteen years ago) link
In two out of every three journeys (guesstimate) since 9/11 I open my luggage to find greetings and salutations from the TSA version of Inspector 12. I'm starting to become a bit glad that events conspired to have me in London this Xmas because my mom would be down a FOX hole by now; Asian writer friend of mine just Facebooked his anticipation of being switched out of his reserved (and paid-for, this is BA) exit row seat for no discernible reason. And yes I would probably have a wee meltdown if a stewardess told me to stow magazines I'd bought in a secure area of an airport, because the only things keeping me distracted on any given flight are the meals and various offerings from Condé Nast.
― days of wine and neuroses (suzy), Monday, 28 December 2009 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link
also: BOOZE
― dome plow (gbx), Monday, 28 December 2009 02:28 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL if I drink BOOZE on planes I get dehydrated and if going USA--->UK, drinking doesn't help the jet lag recovery situation either.
I haven't spoken to my mom since Christmas Day but my BiL was flying into Detroit on Xmas night for a week with his brothers, hope he got there without too much hassle.
― days of wine and neuroses (suzy), Monday, 28 December 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
"feel bad for anyone else flying into the US in the next few weeks"
ungh.
― caek, Monday, 28 December 2009 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link
u guys there are movies on planes now
― ice cr?m, Monday, 28 December 2009 02:49 (fourteen years ago) link
my layover in newark is 3h45m. no chance.
― caek, Monday, 28 December 2009 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link
plenty of time to get a lil tased imo
― ice cr?m, Monday, 28 December 2009 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link
i will probably still be getting tased in manchester
― caek, Monday, 28 December 2009 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link
troo
― ice cr?m, Monday, 28 December 2009 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I get to fly home to Portland tomorrow, domestically. This should be interesting and/or retarded.
― kingfish, Monday, 28 December 2009 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm gonna stick with amtrak. no security at all!
― welcome to gudbergur (harbl), Monday, 28 December 2009 02:58 (fourteen years ago) link
xp, let us know how you get on.
seriously regretting not springing for virgin atlantic direct now. i think i saved about $50. american carriers are misery at the best of times.
― caek, Monday, 28 December 2009 02:58 (fourteen years ago) link
i was on amtrak today and someone was in the bathroom for like half an hour and i made a joke about hoping it wasnt an engineering student and everyone in line laughed nervously and stopped making eye contact with me
― max, Monday, 28 December 2009 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link
was that engineering student you, max
― ice cr?m, Monday, 28 December 2009 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link
oh max
― horseshoe, Monday, 28 December 2009 03:09 (fourteen years ago) link