Scritti Politti: Classic Or Dud

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Sounds maybe like average '80s soul/R&B album filler compositions

OK, no. Sorry - listening to it for the first times after buying a copy for a dollar. Am not the biggest lyrics guy in the world. Listening to it for the second time while paying attention to the lyrics (which I didn't do first time), the compositions "sunk in" more.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 11 August 2006 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

five years pass...

We got a bit carried away (assuming it would sell out instantly and at most one of us would succeed in getting tickets) and bought one more pair than we needed for the Thursday night of this:

http://www.scritti.net/

So if anyone wants two tickets at face value, let me know.

toby, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

Go on I'll have em...not likely to see Scritti at a venue this small in a hurry...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

Cool - webmail sent.

toby, Thursday, 3 November 2011 06:41 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

Scritti are playing live with Michael Clarke at the Tramway in Glasgow for his new work.... i got tickets for two of the three nights, i thought all three would be excessive.

The Work is on at the Barbican too from the 17th-27th of october but I can't confirm Scritti's live presence that night.

jed_, Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

those nights, rather.

jed_, Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

Do you have a link?

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

via the Tramway facebook page:

Really exciting news just announced: Scritti Politti will be performing live as part of Michael Clark Company’s world premiere performance of New Work 2012 at Tramway next week - can't wait!

http://www.tramway.org/events/Pages/Michael-Clark-Company-New-Work-2012.aspx

no confirmation one way or the other re the barbican shows.

jed_, Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

i know that this work has been in development for a while, including a dry-run (sort of) in glasgow earlier this month. scritti composed part of the score for this dry-run but on those shows the score was played over a PA. they'll be playing live in glasgow with michael clarke but (i've just checked) they are on tour at the time of the barbican shows so live sets there on any of the nights are unlikely.

jed_, Thursday, 27 September 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Ah shite, I'm in London then.

'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Thursday, 27 September 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

When I heard "Perfect Day" on the oldies station a couple weeks ago I made ridiculous hand movements and head thrusts sitting in traffic.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 September 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link

I was thinking The Saints there.

That's not my fault, it's Perfect Way, innit?

Mark G, Thursday, 27 September 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

He's playing with Saint Etienne in December too, glad to see that he's finally got over his stage fright.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 27 September 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

i met GG last night. so cool. he looks truly amazing for 57. if i didn't know who he was and was told he was early 40s i would believe it easily.

jed_, Sunday, 7 October 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link

Okay so, I know hongro-bashing can seem pretty played-out, but this:

Old music is usually better than recent music. At least it has been during the past 15 years.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 20 March 2003 23:43 (9 years ago) Permalink


is pure gold

beta male misogyny is here to stay (bernard snowy), Sunday, 7 October 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Was in the car with a friend (who, in her defense, has a real job and is very busy and hasn't bought new music in 15 years and generally only listens to music in the car on the way to and from important clients). "Perfect Way" came on the satellite '80s station, and she absolutely freaked out ... negatively! She said it sucked, could be Milli Vanilli (name similarity just occurred to me), etc., and I was absolutely floored that anyone could hate that song but also by the difficulty of conveying what makes the band special, how its polish is partly what makes it subversive, how its nods to hip-hop and NYC's avant scene were subtly radical, how the lyrics were sometimes so smart and clever it was easy to miss how smart and clever they sometimes were. All that stuff. Just a tough band to capsule to someone who only knows them from that one song which blends together with all those other one-songs from that period of the '80s.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 26 January 2014 14:38 (ten years ago) link

This bump made me play "Hypnotize" on repeat all day yday

vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 January 2014 22:07 (ten years ago) link

why only yesterday

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Monday, 27 January 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link

CONTINUE

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Monday, 27 January 2014 22:29 (ten years ago) link

I had work today.

vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link

I remember my ex flipping out about the video years ago and me thinking "Eh, it's not bad" and then I rewatched it yday and I was like "HOLY SHIT THIS IS AWESOME"

vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:06 (ten years ago) link

I love it when lazy, half-assed stuff winds up being unintentionally brilliant.

vylvyt ylvis (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:07 (ten years ago) link

even at the time "Perfect Way" sounded baroque: until Jam-Lewis a few months later it was the hardest thing on pop radio. And Gartside snuck "I'll forget how to remember with you" and "I took a back seat/a back hander" into a pop song

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 January 2014 23:11 (ten years ago) link

My w was "It's a bit too lovey-dovey" but hey. I think she preferred the Skank Bloc stuff, Which is fair enough, I do too.

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:31 (ten years ago) link

Wonder if we'll get a new album from him soon? Already eight years since White Bread Black Beer.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 01:35 (ten years ago) link

I met him, did i mention that? ha. he was huge and beautiful.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 02:21 (ten years ago) link

i came to scritti long after the fact, after years spent ignoring pop music of all stripes. i was aware of them through occasional mentions in the uk music press, what with their history as a post-punk band. about ten years ago when i started getting interested in new pop stuff like "lexicon of love", scritti were on my mind as something to look out for and eventually i found a cassette of "cupid". after years of being into the likes of beefheart and krautrock it sounded like the most "80s" record i'd ever heard, as much of a shock to me as listening to, say, merzbow might be to someone else. it soon became one of my favorite records.

fit and working again, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link

just learned original drummer tom morley does drum circles for corporate events now

http://www.tommorley.com/sessions

|$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅| (gr8080), Friday, 7 February 2014 18:25 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

get bent tackles Cupid and Psyche 85

http://consequenceofsound.net/aux-out/cupid-and-psyche-85-the-unspoken-influence-of-scritti-politti/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:22 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3B8J1a2lwY

a friend just posted this the other day, so wonderful!

funny and lolexander (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 2 May 2014 15:11 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

The idea of being thrilled by Arif Mardin's production touches seems just as 'muso' as enjoying a John Squire guitar solo. No doubt someone will tell me it's not.

― Dr. C, Tuesday, May 29, 2001

ah old ILM

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 February 2015 03:04 (nine years ago) link

I dunno I'm with the Dr. there to a large degree.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 February 2015 03:18 (nine years ago) link

Must we parse "thrilled"? To explain how Mardin's production works isn't muso -- it's what we do.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 February 2015 03:23 (nine years ago) link

30th anniversary expanded "Cupid & Psyche". It must happen. You need all those remixes.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 6 February 2015 04:12 (nine years ago) link

the production on this (and david gamson's fairlight programming) is sublime.

no fucks given or implied (get bent), Friday, 6 February 2015 04:37 (nine years ago) link

i mean, to me, it just completely sparkles. it captures a moment in a bottle in a really thrilling way.

no fucks given or implied (get bent), Friday, 6 February 2015 04:40 (nine years ago) link

also, i know people accuse green of having done the careerist-auteur thing when he broke off with the original scritti bandmates, but there's something about the collaborative approach to cupid that reminds me of eno's anti-auteurist "scenius" philosophy -- it comes from a very english, humble, social-democratic mindset. pop as (expensive) populism.

no fucks given or implied (get bent), Friday, 6 February 2015 04:44 (nine years ago) link

C'mon, he INVENTED um... all that.

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2015 07:38 (nine years ago) link

I don't think Dr C was disparaging explanation, Alfred, I think that comment was part of the ongoing old-ilx discussion of the value of "chops". If someone back then had pitched up and said "I like record X because that dude is so good on the guitar" they would have been disparaged, so the Doctor was asking why it's better to say "I like record Y because that dude is so good at using the studio."

I think its the lack of explanation he's pointing out - what he wants is "this production is great because it does this and this and that ends up doing this and this to me when I listen to it".

The nearest old-ILM came to a consensus, I think, was that no-one wanted to value technique for its own sake, thinking end product more interesting.

Tim, Friday, 6 February 2015 09:49 (nine years ago) link

old ilm = old punks.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 February 2015 11:13 (nine years ago) link

Here they come,
shalalala laa laaa,
shalalala laa laaa,
The part time ILXors

They post on Tuesdays...

(etc)

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2015 12:08 (nine years ago) link

the production on this (and david gamson's fairlight programming) is sublime.

In 10 years time this will be "ah old ILM".

Utterly huggers (Tom D.), Friday, 6 February 2015 12:30 (nine years ago) link

I remember when "Cupid" came out and thinking it was just the thing I'd been looking for - "new wave" people doing r & b. Recently this promoted me to listen to all of the late seventies & early 80's funk I could find, it goes better with that music.

SCOTTISH PEOPLE ONLY (I M Losted), Friday, 6 February 2015 13:42 (nine years ago) link

eleven months pass...

is this the most delightful bedroom guitar youtube of all time??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPClpdbnbk0

goole, Friday, 8 January 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link

chik-kahhhhh

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 8 January 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

hey so i will be at the show this friday if any of you will too

maura, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 16:25 (eight years ago) link

:)

maura, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 16:25 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/01056/97120514-cb58-11e5_1056010b.jpg

following the recent white-person-with-dreadlocks conversation, I was wondering if scritti's original drummer tom morley was the first white-person-with-dreadlocks pop star? I'm probably forgetting someone really obvious

soref, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link

he still has dreadlocks btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EG3LO3i4FI

soref, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Wonder if we'll get a new album from him soon? Already eight years since White Bread Black Beer.

― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, January 28, 2014 1:35 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Weird to think that he's in his 60s now.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 May 2016 12:58 (seven years ago) link


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