Grunge - how did the '80s hair metal bands react?

Or maybe you just Uzi Suicide wasn't a legit label in the first place? (I've never thought of this before, but did they even put out any other records? Triple X obviously did, over the years, albeit sporadically.)

what I had always heard was what it says in the G'n'R wiki (though yeah again: it's WP, who knows)

Geffen Records released an EP in late 1986 to keep the interest in the band alive while the band withdrew from the club scene to work in the studio. The four song EP Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide came out on the ostensibly independent "Uzi Suicide Records" label (which was actually a Geffen subsidiary.)

thought I read something about this in that Restless Road book, I'll dig it out later if I can find it.

So, we can all still blame Jesus Jones for all of this, right?

xp Though eh (one 45-minute bike ride later) it's not as if Motley Crue weren't just as smarmy-clumsy as Green Day or the Offspring etc. And those bands were definitely better than, say, the Outfield, or the Hooters, or (fill in some shitty '70s band I can't think of right now.) So I shouldn't have implied all "hit rock from previous decades." (Motley Crue's best-of CD is no better or worse than STP's or Soundgarden's or Soul Asylum's or the Counting Crows' or the Black Crowes', maybe a little worse than the Offspring's and a little better than the Spin Doctors'. Not saying the '90s invented mediocrity, even if mediocrity is what distiguishes the decade in the long run.)

Motley Crue = jocks
Green Day = nerds
Offspring = nerds
Counting Crows = nerds
Soundgarden = nerds
STP = jocks with nerd singer? (Weiland is into Devo and wimpiest pop possible)

90s is the ascent of nerds occupying positions previously held by jocks
in the 80s, nerds are consigned to the novelty ghetto with B-52s, Weird Al and Thomas Dolby.

scott weiland = quarterback of his high school football team and also on wrestling team

believe me the jock/nerd thing is always always way more complicated IRL when you get into it.

also robert pollard from guided by voices is/was an excellent athlete...and gibby haynes from buttholes was an athlete to iirc and in a fraternity in college

Wasn't Britney Spears also a big-deal basketball prodigy, once upon a time in Louisiana?

Top music jock of recent decades would probably be Nelly, right?

"believe me the jock/nerd thing is always always way more complicated IRL when you get into it."
oh yeah there are definitely mountains of doctorate theses you can mine from unpacking all this (like rise of nerd thugs in 00s)
but butthole surfers helmed by jock is not surprising...

yeah, i mean, the wrestling team -- loaded with super nerds bound for MIT who could also kick your ass.

Technically, Kurt Cobain's poor scholastic performance and his participation in high school wrestling would make him more jock than nerd, but c'moooon.

Motley Crue = jocks burnouts who smoked behind the shop class
Counting Crows = nerds hippies
Soundgarden = nerds preps

Didn't I see Tommy Lee palmsmash LL Cool J in the face in MTV's Rock & Jock B-ball challenge, cementing his team's threepeat?

vince neil was good at baseball i think...

lots of burnouts were jocks and jocks were burnouts and nerds were jocks and jocks were nerds IMO

yeah, i mean, the wrestling team -- loaded with super nerds bound for MIT who could also kick your ass.

― tylerw, Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:07 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hmmm..i think this is more my area but yeah that was not true for me at all, but we were close enough to iowa where wrestling was more of a glamour sport, more popular than basketball tbh

but wrestling is a weird subculture for sure.

lots of burnouts were jocks and jocks were burnouts and nerds were jocks and jocks were nerds IMO

and nerds were burnouts, too

that too

it's like we learned nothing from carlos the dwarf.

or randall "pink" floyd

"gibby haynes from buttholes was an athlete to iirc and in a fraternity in college"

yes! He went to my college about ten years before me. I know the frat he was in (we only had local frats, not national ones, so naming it isn't going to be helpful for you guys)...it was the frat for rich, athletic, good-looking party kids---jocks, basically. I was in another frat, for nerdy drunks, but we'd go to his frat's parties...sadly there were no xrays of girls passing gas there.