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yeah, it's less about the voice and more about why can't the black dude be a dog or a cat or an animal that people to cuddle, and not some puke-eating street pest that everyone hates

i mean, i know it's not Song Of The South or whatever, but there's no thread called "encyclopedia of institutionally racist products"

― wordy fappinghood (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, December 21, 2009 6:25 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

That, plus the voice is right in line with the old trope of the ignorant, pandering Negro.

he's a light-hearted snake (Jesse), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link

This thread is causing my AV software to flip out, warning me that it is blocking IP address 90.156.153.34.

he's a light-hearted snake (Jesse), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Malware Bytes does not care for racist pigeon characters.

he's a light-hearted snake (Jesse), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I am so not watching this when it comes out to determine if the pigeon is really a racist character or just a regular lactating freak of the bird world.

just a moonful of sugar (Abbott), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I really like pigeons.

The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 05:59 (fourteen years ago) link

O_O @ the HP face-recog snafu

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 06:35 (fourteen years ago) link

wkiw desi and wendy

wordy fappinghood (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 06:50 (fourteen years ago) link

lol at that HP face tracking

Nhex, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 06:55 (fourteen years ago) link

tbf I don't think that HP face tracking thing is intentional

=皿= (dyao), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 06:58 (fourteen years ago) link

wkiw desi and wendy

― wordy fappinghood (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:50 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

professional log roller Lizzie Hoeschler (los blue jeans), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 07:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I think whiney is part of the cats & dogs 2 promotional street team and has just tricked us into getting hyped for this movie

=皿= (dyao), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 07:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Let everybody in the world know this movie exists and think it sucks is a better condition than having a few people think the movie’s great before it comes out - James Cameron Whiney G. Weingarten

professional log roller Lizzie Hoeschler (los blue jeans), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link

The HP fuck up does beg the question: does Hp have no one of dark complexion working anywhere in the R&D, testing, and marketing process? I mean, you'd think this would have been discovered at some point. I wonder if the thing needs to be "calibrated" or something.

Super Cub, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 07:08 (fourteen years ago) link

HP calibration settings: "normal", "black"

psyched for cats & dogs 2

a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 07:18 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

What the fuck is wrong with you, Australia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FftZt-Dw_hQ

steady mmmobyn (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Harry Connick Jr. to thread

moron oil (Gukbe), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey if there was an Aussie offering me fried chicken I'd let him off.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

That is just... I mean... Wow

ah ah oh ooh ooh oh ah ah ah ah ah oh ah ah aha ooh (HI DERE), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

"too easy"

girl, you gon' think i invented chex (m bison), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

conjudalad (22 minutes ago) 0 Reply
Get over yourself Americans. You are commenting on an ad you know NOTHING about. The world does not revolve around you and your dumb stereotypes. Get the chip of your ignorant shoulders

♖♕♖ (am0n), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

KingMacintosh (1 hour ago) 0 Reply
If anyone one, especially blacks think this is racist, crawl back in that shell you came out of, this is not a bit racist whatsoever...

tramtrackharry (1 hour ago) +2 Reply
it's not an american ad; it is in australia and they're at a cricket match. the black people are west indian. u dont understand the ad thats all.

♖♕♖ (am0n), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i'd be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but, and i understand cricket, i have no idea what the joke the ad is trying to make.

caek, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

If anyone one, especially blacks think this is racist,

Big K.R.U.T. (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously, assuming the ad is not saying the obvious thing that stands out to an american audience, wtf is it saying?

caek, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

kfc (and fried chicken as a thing) probably arrived in australia in the 80s or 90s and i'd be staggered if even 5% of the population was vaguely aware of lol fried chicken racism. this is why i'd give the benefit of the doubt, assuming i could parse the rest of the advert, but i can't.

caek, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

You could have inverted the black and white people and the core joke it was trying to go for would have been clearer (wiggle your way out of an uncomfortable situation by offering your enemies our food!). It's kind of massively unforgivably stupid that they didn't do this.

This is reminding me of another great KFC ad of old:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkxvxV-S4wM

(of course, Hammer did that one to himself)

ah ah oh ooh ooh oh ah ah ah ah ah oh ah ah aha ooh (HI DERE), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

unforgivably stupid is a bit harsh. the only way an australian would be aware of this is by reading ilx racism threads or watching ghostworld.

caek, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

my guess is the guy is a fan of one team sitting alone in a crowd of opposing fans?

♖♕♖ (am0n), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

^^ yes

KFC is a global company based in the US; I'm sure someone in their organization is aware of both the Internet and how this commercial would play on an international level.

ah ah oh ooh ooh oh ah ah ah ah ah oh ah ah aha ooh (HI DERE), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

race and racism have global commonalities; if anything, US media dominance makes US race-relations MORE visible and valent on "local" racial issues.

i know australia is a magical island far away in the south seas but come on.

chartres (goole), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess the problem is if you want to make it at a cricket match, you've got to have fans of a different ethnicity, because teams are not so identified with particular colour shirts, etc. and that ends up being extremely crude and weird, whatever races you pick. obviously the bucket of fried chicken and the particular combination of races makes it very o_O for americans, but i really don't think they're referring to that stereotype. ignorance rather than malice, etc.

i think you're forgetting quite how backwards the people of australia are, dan.

caek, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

In furthering non-racist Aussie-US product relations, I would like to alert everyone that many Target stores are selling Tim-Tams on clearance under the Peppridge Farms label:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/3188959774_bfe8ee8ee2.jpg

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm no dom passantino, but i think i'm reasonably up on u.s. culture. i had no idea about the chicken thing until about 5 years ago, fwiw.

i think you can overestimate the extent to which u.s. culture has become dominant. and which bits of it have become dominant has little to with what is the most controversial or interesting in the u.s. -- just because something is genuinely shocking to you, it doesn't mean someone in australia is any more likely to be aware of it than, say, the king of queens.

caek, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

they're delicious! bought some the other day at the dollar store.

And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

no question someone at kfc hq should have caught this, btw, but whiney's initial post was "What the fuck is wrong with you, Australia", not "What the fuck is wrong with you, KFC"

caek, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess the problem is if you want to make it at a cricket match, you've got to have fans of a different ethnicity, because teams are not so identified with particular colour shirts, etc.

I dunno. I think if it would have been a crowd of people wearing green shirts, and one guy in a blue shirt (or whatever), the idea that he was in a crowd of people cheering for the other team probably would have been clear.

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i only watched the commercial, no sound: i thought the plot was he's surrounded by rowdy non-white fans, he gives them fried chicken, and they calm down. is that not what happens?

chartres (goole), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Did I hear something about a racist product controversy that also involved cricket?! Well, hell-o!

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Complicated by the fact that no one is doing anything that's ACTUALLY threateningly "rowdy" in the first part! I guess that would have been too unfriendly even for KFC/Australia. But the problem with that is that the only threatening thing about them ends up being their different race. Which is even worse.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST LICK THE BUS DIRECTLY (Laurel), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I think that this is much less about chx wngs and more about the calm white person being distracted to annoyance by the black people and sibsequently being able to control them.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

xxxxp, if you want to make it a localized ad in the southern hemisphere summer, which there are good reasons to do, it's going to be a cricket match. if the crowd are wearing team colours then it is going to look like someone who know's nothing about cricket made the advert. of course if the alternative is "be racist", you pick the slightly inauthentic costume design, but this assumes "this is racist" was something that occurred to them.

caek, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

full disclosure: I know very little about cricket ;)

chicken sandwich CARL!! (Z S), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

"for those times when you don't have tight pussy, loose shoes, or a warm place to shit, offer kfc. they love it!"

chartres (goole), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:05 (fourteen years ago) link

like everyone else has been saying the racial dynamics are weird even absent the fact that its fried chicken

max, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

but id expect nothing less from a paradise of tolerance and harmony like good ol AUS

max, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

This is actually pretty insensitive and bad, yeah. The issue is that he's clearly wearing an Australia shirt, and there is a big historical rivalry between the (almost entirely Afro-Caribbean) West Indies and the (almost entirely white) Australians, and to be sitting among fans of the opposition is inevitably going to lead to one being barracked, but it plays upon a pretty racially-defined stereotype, and plays upon it bluntly. If it wasn't fried chicken, this advert would be fine. But it is, so it isn't.

kkvg i don't think it's about that, i think it's an attempt to find camaraderie through the international language of stereotyping

Electric Universe (wherever that is) (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Complicated by the fact that no one is doing anything that's ACTUALLY threateningly "rowdy" in the first part!

yeah, this is what i'm saying about not understanding the advert. i have no idea what is going on.

caek, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

like everyone else has been saying the racial dynamics are weird even absent the fact that its fried chicken

― max, Wednesday, January 6, 2010 4:06 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yes. I was typing a bunch of stuff, but that's basically it.

he's a light-hearted snake (Jesse), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

If it wasn't fried chicken, this advert would be fine.

not really buying this tbh!

max, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

If it wasn't fried chicken, this advert would be fine. But it is, so it isn't.

hahahahaha oh dear. ok, lj is here. i'll leave you in his capable hands.

caek, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link


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