im not actually as down on this as i sound in this thread, but the imbalanced amount of "wow this film is the new star wars"-consensus-stuff really pushes the obvious kajlueanfekunflaeiunflaiud aspects out yknow??
― deej, Monday, 21 December 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
ya deej i'm kind of the same way, the sheer fucking insanity of the praise this is getting (and the way it's being pushed like an agenda) is gonna end up radicalizing me
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
liked the way the final fight inverted the end of aliens, wr2 the character in an robo-suit/mini gundam.
I did notice that tech-head Cameron couldn't resist tossing in not one, not two but I think three gags where head jarhead holds his breath rather than grabs an oxygen mask to save time in asskicking. Clearly Cameron's deep sea diving gave him some ideas (and not just because Pandora looks like a big aquarium).
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, December 21, 2009 11:13 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
this reminded me of the abyss in a lot of ways (aliens, too - the dropship scene in the beginning was almost shot-for-shot aliens), especially in the breath-holding and immersion imagery. cameron's auteurist tics.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
also re: the abandoned first dragon
don't we assume that he want back to his original ride after releasing the toruk at the end?
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
original ride was like oh hell no
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
the movie this reminds me of the most is 300, where its an impressive technical feat marred by objectionable philosophies
― deej, Monday, 21 December 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
to me it's a technical feat marred by doofy aesthetic choices
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
and poor writing
― Simon H., Monday, 21 December 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean, shit, hundreds of millions and they couldn't throw in a Darabont or something to polish 'er up a bit?
― Simon H., Monday, 21 December 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
also did u find that the movie sort of tipped that shaggy would be jealous of him and go bad or betray him somehow but it never happened?
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, December 21, 2009 10:46 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
sully mentions this in his video log, said he was glad that the tension between himself and spellman was abating (or words to that effect). thought this was a nice if underdeveloped bit of character business. it was probably extraneous, but added a tiny bit of depth to spellman. did expect it to lead to something more dramatic, though.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
didn't lucas hire darabont to polish up ep 1 x[
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
oh god i forgot about the video blogging
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
well ok not Darabont nec. but you know what I mean.
― Simon H., Monday, 21 December 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
This thread got a whole heap less fun once people started seeing and enjoying the film.
― Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Monday, 21 December 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link
oh it's pretty fun if you haven't seen the movie and have no plans to do so
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 21 December 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahah, it's true!
― fictional, homosexual, Baltimore hoodlum (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 December 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link
I actually didn't have much problem with the script/dialogue. Considering all Cameron had to get across, I thought the number of groan inducing "I'm going to jam as much exposition into this spare five seconds as I can" moments were pretty minimal, as far as these kinds of things go. If you think about the sheer amount of info (visual or otherwise) crammed into here, it's pretty impressive. I mean, writing has always been Cameron's weakest link, but the groaners in "Avatar" are <<<<< the groaners in "Titanic," and he was also working with top notch leads in that one.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 December 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link
well if there's one thing i value in storytelling, it's the ability to cram as much information as possible into a short period of time
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link
actually, that would have made more sense if this movie wasn't 3 hours long
I actually didn't have much problem with the script/dialogue. Considering all Cameron had to get across, I thought the number of groan inducing "I'm going to jam as much exposition into this spare five seconds as I can" moments were pretty minimal, as far as these kinds of things go.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, December 21, 2009 2:37 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark
^^^^ this
and a lot of the most blatant groaners, as quoted by critics mocking the film's dialogue ("you're not in kansas anymore; you're on pandora!"), were ludicrous in character. most were delivered by quaritch, to emphasize his goonish, action-movie manliness.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 21 December 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link
ludicrous as it might be, i could totally imagine dudes like him saying those types of things. there was so much clichéd dialog in basic training...
― richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 21 December 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Exactly.
― The Hood Won't Jump (Eazy), Monday, 21 December 2009 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, December 21, 2009 5:04 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/images/nick-griffin-apologist.gif
― deej, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link
wham i always apologizin for these nazis?
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link
its set up like hes got some grand plan, and instead he throws them all at a bunch of guys armed with missiles and gunstie fighters, where they're torn to shreds (the only way the ending could be 'happy' was that godhan solo had to interfere!)
― =皿= (dyao), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
The worst thing about this is that you KNOW Michael Bay is going to use this 3D tech on whatever abortion he has planned next.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link
And now you too can truly know what it's like to be right under a pair of giant robot balls.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^But they still can't show us how they taste
― .gif of the magpie (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
ok guise by this time wednesday ill be an avatar imax 3d vet!
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link
be back to share my important impressions!
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link
preview: *_*
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link
By this time wednesday I will only be a 2D vet.
I have prepared myself by watchin Waterworld on Netflix Watch Instantly last night o_O
― .gif of the magpie (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons/3/3d-glasses-emoticon.gif
― =皿= (dyao), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
loved the bioluminescent jungle floor - it was the 3d movie equivalent of that room in stoner's houses with all the blacklight posters
― I am a galactic activation portal...enter me (nickalicious), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 03:48 (fourteen years ago) link
http://nerdbusiness.com/articles/218-wallpapers/previews/fluorescence61920.jpg
― =皿= (dyao), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 03:50 (fourteen years ago) link
in fact i feel like this movie is that room of the house if the house is the movie industry
xpost oh man i am totally eating shrooms next time i see this
― I am a galactic activation portal...enter me (nickalicious), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:29 (2 hours ago) Permalink
2nd worst thing: Russ Meyer didn't live to make use of this technology.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 04:44 (fourteen years ago) link
in an ideal world james cameron would've used this technology to make an avatar the last airbender movie and m night shyamalan would be doing the live-action ferngully movie
― did you mean: fart blasters? (nickalicious), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 04:50 (fourteen years ago) link
its set up like hes got some grand plan, and instead he throws them all at a bunch of guys armed with missiles and guns tie fighters, where they're torn to shreds (the only way the ending could be 'happy' was that godhan solo had to interfere!)
― =皿= (dyao), Monday, December 21, 2009 8:21 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
u think xwings are the star wars equivilent of na'vi flying on fighting birds using bows & arrows
― deej, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link
just pointing out it's kinda silly to be scoring points off of avatar using star wars
― =皿= (dyao), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah im saying that doesnt make sense -- they had a battle tactic wherein outnumbered x wings could still win -- i.e. destroy the death star -- it made some strategic sense, where in avatar they're just throwing themselves in the path of dudes with guns
― deej, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link
where in avatarreturn of the jedi they're just throwing themselvesewoks in the path of dudesstormtroopers with gunslasers
― =皿= (dyao), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i dont think u are following me. they have lasers too. also they are called blasters /nerd
― deej, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link
just don't get what gets your goat about this umpteenth iteration of the charge of the light brigade on film
― =皿= (dyao), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
nature only acted because it felt sorry for the na'vi...enough martyrdom and hammerhead buffalo will ride 2 ur aid
― Don't bring a gun to a snowball fight! (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe nature just wanted to see if her bros would really ride for her
― =皿= (dyao), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link
haha
― deej, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Nature acted because nature has a vested interest in a sequel.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Tho to be fair, nature really should have seen it coming.
ya i agree that the thing about SW is that the rebels had a cogent plan (fly here, shoot into this thing—they used their smarts to find a flaw in the empire's military machine) and i find that more compelling than the "hey let's all get together and put on a show!" thing avatar did
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link