they were big, i just put them over mine. if i would have known the movie was going to be in 3D i would have put my contacts in, but i wasn't paying enough attention to the hype.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
how do the new 3d glasses work if you *already wear glasses*?
― Dean Gaffney's December (history mayne), Monday, December 21, 2009 1:11 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
somewhere james cameron realizes this and his head explodes
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i just wore the 3d glasses over my regular glasses
― tiger's wood (latebloomer), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
*head explodes*
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link
If you put 3-D glasses over regular glasses, is the movie in 4-D?
I thought this flick was a blast. Couple of questions, for the spoiler set:
1) Who was underfunding this whole expedition? They make a point of saying it's not military, strictly mercenary, but then again, there's an awful lot of Marine talk/talk of Marines. Who's giving the orders? The government? Which government? The Company? Under whose jurisdiction? Giovanni Ribisi? It's totally unclear. There's motivation out the wazoo, but it's unclear who exactly is the one being motivated back on earth.
2) Why go through even the pretense/expense of making nice to the natives when they were clearly going to steamroll it from the very start? (I mean, don't people in the movies ever watch movies?)
3) If it takes five years to get to Pandora from Earth, how was unobtainium (heh) ever discovered on Pandora in the first place?
4) Michelle Rodriguez totally deserts/breaks ranks/disobeys orders in plain sight, then pops up on the base ship a few scenes later to free the good guys, as if nothing happened. What's up with that?
5) Where, exactly, were the vast riches of unobtainium? Under the home tree or under the fiber optics tree? I'm unclear why they bulldozed the tree.
6) Not a question, but I thought the OG dragon totally got the shaft, too, especially after they made such a point of him and it being BFF. Poor dragon! :(
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 December 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/11952611/Jim+Martin+51215_1208437900.jpg
― DavidM, Monday, 21 December 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I always suspected the guy from Faith No More could see in 4-D.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 December 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
u want it avatar but u can't have it
― fictional, homosexual, Baltimore hoodlum (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
I like how every animal on this planet has a USB cable
― =皿= (dyao), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
xp to Josh
more spoilers etc
1) my understanding is that it was like a Chevron type corporation with Ribisi as its Pandora representative. the 'military' was a Blackwater type private security company staffed with a bunch of ex-Marines. i sort of cringed reading Ebert's review that he got this wrong and assumed it was the government.
2) it's standard procedure in the third world, isn't it? try to buy them first, keep it all on the d-low and all that. not sure why they were so worried, though; i didn't see any media on the planet.
3) who knows?
4) maybe she was waiting for her article 15. i have no idea - you make a good point. how did they not know she was going to steal a ship and all that.
5) seemed to be under the home tree. they were trying to destroy the network hub to demoralize them and disrupt their communications or something - as more of a shock and awe reaction against the huge massing of troops from around the planet. made sense to me, i guess.
6) well he let the big dragon go at the end, so maybe he brought old dragon some flowers and candy and apologized like hell.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
he probably fed the old dragon to the new one
― =皿= (dyao), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
the circle of life!
― tiger's wood (latebloomer), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link
the one plot point that REALLY bugs me is the fact that sully was the only one to break thru to the navis because of a mystical prophecy type shit - ie the bugs landing on him - rather than any of his actions. i hate that stuff.
also did u find that the movie sort of tipped that shaggy would be jealous of him and go bad or betray him somehow but it never happened?
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i agree about the bug things landing on him. that was lame. every other 'mystical' thing i can remember was explained by physical shit.
i was glad that the jealous prince storyline didn't go anywhere. there were enough rehashed clichés in the movie - it didn't need another.
― richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:55 (fourteen years ago) link
I did notice that tech-head Cameron couldn't resist tossing in not one, not two but I think three gags where head jarhead holds his breath rather than grabs an oxygen mask to save time in asskicking. Clearly Cameron's deep sea diving gave him some ideas (and not just because Pandora looks like a big aquarium).
Also, I wonder if the $300 mil spent on the movie could have built him one of those giant robot exoskeletons he so clearly fetishizes? I think by now everyone knows what to chip in and buy Jim for Christmas.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 December 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
ya i didnt want that but i found it weird it was sort of implied xp
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
it feels like yr writing paragraphs of exposition to explain fairly simple ideas as if you can write your way into believing it yourself
― deej, Monday, December 21, 2009 6:51 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
i just write the way i think, deej. wandering, convoluted, whatever. at this point i'm happy just agreeing to disagree.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link
im not actually as down on this as i sound in this thread, but the imbalanced amount of "wow this film is the new star wars"-consensus-stuff really pushes the obvious kajlueanfekunflaeiunflaiud aspects out yknow??
― deej, Monday, 21 December 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link
ya deej i'm kind of the same way, the sheer fucking insanity of the praise this is getting (and the way it's being pushed like an agenda) is gonna end up radicalizing me
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
liked the way the final fight inverted the end of aliens, wr2 the character in an robo-suit/mini gundam.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, December 21, 2009 11:13 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
this reminded me of the abyss in a lot of ways (aliens, too - the dropship scene in the beginning was almost shot-for-shot aliens), especially in the breath-holding and immersion imagery. cameron's auteurist tics.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
also re: the abandoned first dragon
don't we assume that he want back to his original ride after releasing the toruk at the end?
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
original ride was like oh hell no
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link
the movie this reminds me of the most is 300, where its an impressive technical feat marred by objectionable philosophies
― deej, Monday, 21 December 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
to me it's a technical feat marred by doofy aesthetic choices
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
and poor writing
― Simon H., Monday, 21 December 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean, shit, hundreds of millions and they couldn't throw in a Darabont or something to polish 'er up a bit?
― Simon H., Monday, 21 December 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, December 21, 2009 10:46 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
sully mentions this in his video log, said he was glad that the tension between himself and spellman was abating (or words to that effect). thought this was a nice if underdeveloped bit of character business. it was probably extraneous, but added a tiny bit of depth to spellman. did expect it to lead to something more dramatic, though.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link
didn't lucas hire darabont to polish up ep 1 x[
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
oh god i forgot about the video blogging
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link
well ok not Darabont nec. but you know what I mean.
― Simon H., Monday, 21 December 2009 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
This thread got a whole heap less fun once people started seeing and enjoying the film.
― Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Monday, 21 December 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link
oh it's pretty fun if you haven't seen the movie and have no plans to do so
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 21 December 2009 22:28 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahah, it's true!
― fictional, homosexual, Baltimore hoodlum (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 December 2009 22:34 (fourteen years ago) link
I actually didn't have much problem with the script/dialogue. Considering all Cameron had to get across, I thought the number of groan inducing "I'm going to jam as much exposition into this spare five seconds as I can" moments were pretty minimal, as far as these kinds of things go. If you think about the sheer amount of info (visual or otherwise) crammed into here, it's pretty impressive. I mean, writing has always been Cameron's weakest link, but the groaners in "Avatar" are <<<<< the groaners in "Titanic," and he was also working with top notch leads in that one.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 December 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link
well if there's one thing i value in storytelling, it's the ability to cram as much information as possible into a short period of time
― the finest of display name homies (s1ocki), Monday, 21 December 2009 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link
actually, that would have made more sense if this movie wasn't 3 hours long
I actually didn't have much problem with the script/dialogue. Considering all Cameron had to get across, I thought the number of groan inducing "I'm going to jam as much exposition into this spare five seconds as I can" moments were pretty minimal, as far as these kinds of things go.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, December 21, 2009 2:37 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark
^^^^ this
and a lot of the most blatant groaners, as quoted by critics mocking the film's dialogue ("you're not in kansas anymore; you're on pandora!"), were ludicrous in character. most were delivered by quaritch, to emphasize his goonish, action-movie manliness.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 21 December 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link
ludicrous as it might be, i could totally imagine dudes like him saying those types of things. there was so much clichéd dialog in basic training...
― richie aprile (rockapads), Monday, 21 December 2009 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Exactly.
― The Hood Won't Jump (Eazy), Monday, 21 December 2009 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, December 21, 2009 5:04 PM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/images/nick-griffin-apologist.gif
― deej, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link
wham i always apologizin for these nazis?
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link
its set up like hes got some grand plan, and instead he throws them all at a bunch of guys armed with missiles and gunstie fighters, where they're torn to shreds (the only way the ending could be 'happy' was that godhan solo had to interfere!)
― =皿= (dyao), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
The worst thing about this is that you KNOW Michael Bay is going to use this 3D tech on whatever abortion he has planned next.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link
And now you too can truly know what it's like to be right under a pair of giant robot balls.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^But they still can't show us how they taste
― .gif of the magpie (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link
ok guise by this time wednesday ill be an avatar imax 3d vet!
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link
be back to share my important impressions!
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link
preview: *_*
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link
By this time wednesday I will only be a 2D vet.
I have prepared myself by watchin Waterworld on Netflix Watch Instantly last night o_O
― .gif of the magpie (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons/3/3d-glasses-emoticon.gif
― =皿= (dyao), Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link