Deftones: Underrated?

what are other albums tht sound like this?

I always thought the Deftones were an indie rock band, possibly new wave-ish (which is to say that I guess I don't really have a clue what they sound like, but that's what their name looks like).

they were basically like the radiohead of nu metal i guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL4MGwlZuAc

I love this song to pieces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuNZGijfaZA

I have fond memories of 'shove it'

has anyone heard their latest, diamond eyes? i'm tempted to check it out, but i wanted to see if anyone else had first.

Yeah, it's really good. I like it better than either of the two before it.

Yeah, after loving the first three, I was really let down by the last two. This one goes a long way toward winning me back.

Found the Team Sleep album at the Dollar Tree for - yep, you guessed it - a buck.

Diamond is fantastic; on my favs of the year so far. Basically splits the difference between S/T and Saturday Night Wrist.

*one of my.., that is

I'm not a huge fan of "overrated/underrated" discussions tbh but I think Deftones are simultaneously over and underrated, just by different populations.

My metalhead breathren were wont to dismiss them as Korn clones, which even when they did play a similar style, they definitely had their own personality. And less likely to check out albums like the s/t or White Pony.

However, being someone who liked both those albums, I can say that it never really went beyond a strong "like", not a "love". I think they do what they do well, but I've never heard anything of theirs that captivated me or took me to the next level.

So I guess I'm saying they're rated about right in my eyes.

I don't really think they sound that much like Korn...more like Pantera w/ Cure influences

Not that familiar with their stuff but I really enjoy the covers on their rarities comp

yeah i can't stop listening to this new album. not sure if i love it, but theres clearly something i like about it.

so, has anyone else heard the new one?

Heard 'Back to Skooooohoool' (sic) tonight. Fuck, if that isn't the worst song of all time then christ knows what could be.

yeah but Street Carp is probably one of the best songs ever written...

Am I the only one with a soft spot for "Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)"?

"Change (In the House of Flies)" is my favourite song from White Pony.

"back to school" is indeed bad but it was an alternate version of one of their songs which was tacked onto a "re-release" of White Pony:

"Back to School (Mini Maggit)" was released as both a single and as an EP package; the single was released shortly before the EP.

Vocalist Chino Moreno: "This album right here [the White Pony re-release] is not the album that we turned into the label. As far as we're concerned, the first edition was the record. Done. Then they talked us into re-releasing it with another song on it, and it's not like I'm against the song or whatever, but I liked the sequence we had when we first turned it in. When this version came out, a little part inside all of us felt like: 'Fuck! We just totally compromised.' And I know that a lot of our fans felt bad about it too."[1]

Am I the only one with a soft spot for "Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)"

no way. that song is great!

that's a good one but I like My Own Summer (Shove It) a little more

i played guitar in a band in high school that covered deftones, metallica, etc... we played at our senior class party thing and opened with my own summer. i broke my low e string almost immediately :(

i've heard the new album once, not enough of an opinion to cast judgment on it yet

regarding "white pony." if i've ever needed an album to remind me of where i was musically/emotionally that year as an upstate high-schooler involved only with what was heard on FM radio, that album is it

"back to school" is indeed bad but it was an alternate version of one of their songs which was tacked onto a "re-release" of White Pony:

"Back to School (Mini Maggit)" was released as both a single and as an EP package; the single was released shortly before the EP.

Vocalist Chino Moreno: "This album right here [the White Pony re-release] is not the album that we turned into the label. As far as we're concerned, the first edition was the record. Done. Then they talked us into re-releasing it with another song on it, and it's not like I'm against the song or whatever, but I liked the sequence we had when we first turned it in. When this version came out, a little part inside all of us felt like: 'Fuck! We just totally compromised.' And I know that a lot of our fans felt bad about it too."[1]

― (latebloomer) (latebloomer)

That's such a fucking lame excuse. If they were truly awesome they wouldn't mind whatever song the label picked as a single. Stop creating music that makes you feel ashamed.

Chino's pretty good at coming across as a doofus in interviews...I also wish he wouldn't scream "Squeal like a pig!" throughout their cover of "Say It Ain't So."

eh my point was that "back to school" is a dumb song to judge the band by

"Stop creating music that makes you feel ashamed."

have you ever made music? sometimes shit doesn't turn out as great as you hoped.

also it wasn't a song originally on the album, and the label tacked it on.

don't know why i'm all cap'n save-a-tone today

So the bonus tracks include a Drive Like Jehu cover and a Japan cover. That works.

man i should have thought about only writing super genius music, too late now

http://www.dischord.com/images.d/release/image/6623/063.jpg

ILM/music critics aren't the world, but certainly in those worlds the Deftones are far from underrated. in fact, they seem to be the only nu-metal band in those worlds that gets positive mentions at all (which is interesting in itself).

since no-one gives a shit about nu-metal anymore, though, i guess in that sense they are underrated.

actually, i see that their new record is selling pretty well so i guess they aren't "underrated" as far as the general public is concerned either.

That favorite albums list on the Quietus confirms that these guys, if anything, have impeccable taste.

^^^was just coming here to post the same thing!
http://thequietus.com/articles/05329-deftones-chino-interview-favourite-records?page=1

Yeah, great list. LOVE that he has that Hum record on there.

It's the main thing that's impressed me with meeting them all several times. A lot of bands pay lip service to having interesting taste in music but Deftones really know their shit. Chino and Frank (DJ) especially. They'll talk to you about Coldcut, Three Six Mafia, Slayer and Aphex Twin.

Super nice guys as well. Awful business with what happened to Chi. He is a gent, y'know.

Someone tell me about the Too $hort and Hum records, please- worth hearing?

Sure didn't expect to see that Spain record there but that was pretty inspired. Good stuff indeed and one exception aside (go away Interpol) I'd happily give an ear to it all. Even Tortwah just because it's not Millions.

The Spain record is great isn't it. Will have to seek a copy out, not heard it in years.

this year's deftones album is very good I gotta say

i dunno, i like them alright - but this new one seemed to drag on for what seemed like forever. there's few very solid tracks - but overall i wasn't blown away.

think the last few tracks are stronger than the first few tbh - the songs are pretty short, can get thru it easily

ya - when i say dragged on i just mean it seemed that way - alot of the tracks got really same-y sounding to me. i didn't mean anything was actually long.

think this album dips a bit in the 8/9 position but then rly picks up again for the last 4 - mebbe w/o those 2 songs it'd be more palatable and wd even seem more varied - no biggie tho afaic

Never occurred to me in all these years that Deftones can be broken into Deft ones.

lol

the silent alarm one is good but not as....albumlike

the Tourist remix is so great

yes! i think i recommended black stallion to tim f mostly bc i want him to hear the tourist remix

oh my god I just noticed....... "push back the square"

lol

he really did too

squarepusher pushes the square back so hard on that remix

the Shadow one has grown on me a lot, Shinoda and Trevor Jackson are my "just OK" ones

i do not understand the trevor jackson one. love the shinoda at this point

I think for the Trevor Jackson one to make sense you need to get "member of Deftones" level blazed

i'm trying so hard

salva remix of "rx queen" is like... almost unpleasant? yet i always end up liking it

haha I got pretty stoned on my first couple listens, it really jumped out at me as being, after the intro, three three-song "suites" (active trio, chill trio, active trio) with squarepusher as the fireworks at the end

speaking of stoned I wonder if they tried calling dean blunt

just spun Ohms. Awesomeeeee

really loving Pittura Infamante atm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my-rCTvo604

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rte2YuDtfVY

that's sick!

I want full boutique remix versions of all the albums now tbh

I just barely talked myself out of $20 for a two-track picture disc on RSD. How's the Arca mix on the flip side?

the visuals on the youtube made the rest of this thread trip out to my eyes briefly!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipy0D6ySYgA

Is their current US tour w/ Gojira on or not? I've seen conflicting reports.

Postponed till 2022.

Deftones part ways with long-time bassist Sergio Vega.

https://www.wearethepit.com/2022/03/deftones-bassist-sergio-vega-parts-ways-with-band-provides-statement/

Sure makes the band seem like a bunch of dicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3o8g6VGktw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awWKnZsaO3o

Liberty DeVito just jumped into my shortlist of rock personalities I want to hear stories from.