grime and the hardcore continuum

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"what makes 2004 'grimier,' economically, politically, socially, than 1999?"

more gun crime in london?
its hard to tell sometimes with grime how pronounced the influx of urban decay in london really is or if its just part and parcel of the actual genre, i.e. its de facto POV

DTI, Monday, 31 October 2005 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link

killed the vibe havent i. sorry i havent anything to say! but i guess i do still think it's interesting to try work out grime thinking backwards a little - what things that aren't grime does grime like? is there a common thread in particular or is it all, as stands to reason, whatever youngers in london like anyway? or does grime only like other thigns that are grime?

errm so:

still tippin, dipset, 'running' by the game, jamrock, summer bounce riddim, the throw-riko-a-bone dancehall mix of 'shake a leg' is on scoobay riddim, what else

i dunno

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Monday, 31 October 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

i thought it was pretty obvious. i mean, i can run down things ive read in interviews, but grime seems to like the 'big' hip hop tunes (i dont think grime artists are HUGE hip hop obsessives per se) so stuff like still tippin (even though its well old now), but then wiley has mentioned lil jon, mannie fresh i think, dipset and guys like that too. dizzee likes lil jon, 3-6, cash money and jay-z. kano i think has mentioned the lower tier dipset members too. they all seem to mention the obvious dancehall artists like sizzla, etc. i dunno. what point are we aiming towards here?

DTI, Monday, 31 October 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

huh?

F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

station get licked

ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

this thread has broken contact with the sense-making continuum

sistermidnight, Monday, 31 October 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Welcome to the world of ILX grime threads.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

i know right?

reactionary nostalgia it is then

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

clearly, grime threads dont attract the right sort of people.

sistermidnight, Monday, 31 October 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

grime's a turtle / you can't step into its circle

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

DTI = doncaster transport interchange, right?

ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 31 October 2005 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

oui

DTI, Monday, 31 October 2005 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link

sixteen years pass...

New Kornel Kovacs LP has some poptimist-tinged broadcasts from the continuum.

https://kornelkovacs.bandcamp.com/album/hotel-koko

Usch is some Nordic garage, works for me but maybe too polished for some. Get Goofy comes a little harder — I’m not sure the vocal totally works tho.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 21 October 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link

A lot of chatter about the new Burial release but I it’s hard for me to get worked up about, he tends to be same-y imo.

I do think we should have the intention of reviving every different ardkore continuum-adjacent thread if possible.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Friday, 21 October 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

honestly i think RS might be one of the most overrated crews in grime
sure they have some moments of brilliance/greatness, but they usually pad it out with real sub-dipset crap
they had underground which was amazing, then on the b side they put that rubbish heatmakers-gone-grime track
i want to like them cos grime bloggers love em so much but they seem really inconsistent. i think they just want to make hip-hop really, but somehow ended up in grime (thinking about that now, that might a common dilemma)
i wonder when the next wiley agenda adjustment will come, its been quite a while.
― hi, Monday, 31 October 2005 14:28 (sixteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

That's just an absolute crock. Ruff Sqwad >>>

paolo, Saturday, 22 October 2022 09:55 (one year ago) link

why is it the hardcore continuum and not the reggae continuum or the disco continuum or something else? what motivates critical attention on this lineage over others? is it something about establishing a narrative throughline for specifically british-based electronic/dance musics? and is it supposed to be prescriptive in some way (which would make sense of bizarre things like jazz influences in jungle being talked about as somehow extraneous or intrusive)?

your original display name is still visible (Left), Saturday, 22 October 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link


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