Hellboy rules.

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I loved how quickly the decrepit sandbag of a corpse became unstoppable Nazi ninja motherfucker. From zero to lung-puncturing in 0.6 seconds or some shit.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

Woah hold up let's back this up a second...Jeunet directed Alien 4!?!!?! Why have I not seen this yet!?!!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, he was great. And for some reason all the excessive flashy knife-whirling before he would ever actually hit anyone seemed to fit the character, like he just really enjoyed being a Nazi ninja.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

Woah hold up let's back this up a second...Jeunet directed Alien 4!?!!?! Why have I not seen this yet!?!!

Plus, there's some really hot lesboedipal tension between Winona and Ripley.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

Loved the sand-nazi apparently *winding himself up* prior to action moves. Loved the Russian direction-giving corpse. LOVED Abe Sapien with a very special love reserved only for effeminate fishmen.

Layna Andersen (Layna Andersen), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:49 (twenty years ago) link

One strike against the movie - Pete Yorn doing "Red Right Hand."

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 01:10 (twenty years ago) link

Is that who it was? Yes. Nick Cave's version has shown up in enough movies, what stopped them from getting it again?

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 8 April 2004 01:12 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, well I thought it was kind of zzzzzzzzzzz.

I really, really wanted to like it. Bear in mind that I am a fairly avid comics reader, but I have never read Hellboy.

I just found it fairly cliched, corny and...well, boring. Ron Perlman was good enough (not great, though), but he had some terrible "one-liners" and I thought that the Hellboy character was kind of flat. I also pretty much hated that fake-looking fish thing. I didn't get the sense of "wow! comics come alive!" epic-ness that I got watching the X-men films, and felt that some of the pacing and framing would even been better suited to the comics medium (some nice use of colors, though). Maybe I missed something?

I would like to add that, on the advice above, I finally saw Blade last night and that really was something special.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 11 April 2004 17:57 (twenty years ago) link

Crone (sp?) is one of the baddest-ass movie villains from a movie based on a comic book I've ever seen.

Kroenen in the movie isn't really based on Kroenen in the books.

Pedantic Nerd O'Gaddy (Leee), Sunday, 11 April 2004 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

I saw it last night and it really wasn't what I was expecting. I'm surprised it has been reviewed so favorably! I do like the Hellboy comics (I wouldn't call myself a "fan", but I've read several of the TPBs and liked them a lot), but as soon as the movie started and I heard the way the lines were delivered my heart kind've sunk. I liked Blade too, so after hearing everyone say that this is Del Toro's best movie I was pretty excited. After the intro sequence I was thinking "ooh damn they already lost anyone who hasn't read the comics" and then just a little way into the movie I realized they lost me too. :(

The thing that bothered me the most was Abe Sapien as a fucking C3P0 clone! That's just so wrong!

Dan I., Monday, 12 April 2004 00:51 (twenty years ago) link

3P0 is waaaaaaaaaay gayer than AS.

adam (adam), Monday, 12 April 2004 02:25 (twenty years ago) link

Though talking like David Hyde Pierce is not exactly the express train to straightville.

adam (adam), Monday, 12 April 2004 02:25 (twenty years ago) link

Dan OTM

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 April 2004 02:44 (twenty years ago) link

My fellow adam also OTM

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 April 2004 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

Ha ha, I always thought that the two adams were the same adam!

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 12 April 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

The other adam is cool, d00d. He likes Ca$h Money and comic books, as far as I can tell.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 April 2004 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

That's why I thought it was you!

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Monday, 12 April 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago) link

This was the thread where The Maxx was mentioned, right? I went ahead and bought a DVD from Ebay -- not an official release, obviously, looks like a transfer from videocassette or computer. But it's perfectly watchable -- sound's perfect, video is comparable to videocassette with awkward blacks -- and cost me like $9.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 12:28 (twenty years ago) link

The wonderful world of bootlegging never occurred to me. I just got one off EBay for $9.99.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 15 April 2004 04:58 (twenty years ago) link

so i saw this hellboy and i gotta say i was pretty delighted for the first act or so, i loved the way it looked and it was sort of appealing to me on every single level, except perhaps the prurient. but man does this movie sag in the middle! and the ending stinks too. i got bored and impatient.

love those tentacley space demons though.

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 24 April 2004 23:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree with you about the last two acts at least.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 25 April 2004 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link

you didn't like the beginning at all? i thought it was pretty fun.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 25 April 2004 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I want to see an entire movie like the WWII scenes, using the cast of Band of Brothers.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 25 April 2004 06:48 (nineteen years ago) link

YES!!!!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 25 April 2004 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...
I watched this tonight. I had to watch it after they nicknamed that guy on the Amazing Race "Hellboy". I thought it was too much like Blade. I guess Del Toro really has a thing for octopussy/squiddy creatures. And the fish/C3PO's voice reminded me too much of Kelsey Grammar's tight-ass brother from Frasier.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link

That's because it was. The voice anyway.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:52 (nineteen years ago) link

That would explain it.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 20 November 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Octo-pussoire

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 20 November 2004 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Make sure you rub it the right way.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 20 November 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

gotta appreciate his enthusiasm but guillermo del toro pretty much sucks, doesn't he?

s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 20 November 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

All I know is that he *loves* tentacles and swords.

Maria D. (Maria D.), Saturday, 20 November 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
i have never read a comix book/graphic novel. EVER. but i love comic-book adaptations, i just saw 'hellboy' and loved it, loved 'from hell', love x-men, etc etc. and the thing is most people love 'spiderman' and the big ones but the more marginal stuff that never 'crossed over' (ie i'd never heard of 'hellboy' before the film, but had heard of the x-men) has these two levels of criticism going on. it's a bit like with adapted novels, but not, and enjoying them i feel a bit like a n00b or how i felt getting into hip-hop initially -- it was other people's property. i don't resent it becasue most likely if you know about x-men the comix, you'll get more out of the film -- but otoh not knowing probably means the films aren't 'spolied' by the knowledge that there's been some Really Significant Aspect that the filmmaker has travestied.

so anyway: hellboy rules (maybe lost the thread a bit at the end, tho).

N_RQ, Monday, 4 April 2005 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Going back to the very first post:

the stories are great and well put-together and make good use of myth/history/etc without resorting to twee Neil Gaimanisms

Well it's funny you should say that because...Neil and his younger daughter Maddy are on set of Hellboy 2 for a bit cause he and Del Toro are buds. And Maddy is filing the various reports, with some photos.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 June 2007 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link

good blog, i should read it more often than once a year.

coincidently, yesterday i was moving stuff back into newly decorated bedroom and dug out all the hellboys from the various boxs of comics. there are 26 of them. turns out i am missing #5, the wolves of saint august (although i think i might have the DHP issues that they were originally in).

one day i will read them all again.

am also missing optic nerve #8. calamity.

koogs, Monday, 2 July 2007 09:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Don't worry unless you're a completist -- "Wolves of St. August" isn't very good. It's the first story that Mignola scripted on his own (<i>Seeds of Destruction</i> was scipted by Jh0n Byyyyrne), and the art is a little heavy-handed (thick inks and ugly, busy coloring).

Leee, Monday, 2 July 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

BPRD (with art by Guy Davis!) is where it's REALLY at these days.

Oilyrags, Monday, 2 July 2007 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Is it? I was kind of bored with the early volumes.

Leee, Monday, 2 July 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, I'd read almost anything with Guy Davis art, but I do think the writing is also very strong right now.

Oilyrags, Monday, 2 July 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

OILY IS RIGHT

David R., Monday, 2 July 2007 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

(wolves of st august £4 from ebay, including p+p and two other issues which i already have. also picked up optic nerve #8 and #11 without leaving my desk. woot)

koogs, Monday, 6 August 2007 14:22 (sixteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

I liked him a lot, both in ST and at the SAG awards, but I'm sure anybody should be forced to play Hellboy after Perlman.

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 03:09 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

trailer is up - do we have a thread for this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt5g5_1cKVk

def has a lot more of that mike mignola feel

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link

looks pretty cool

though i think it's hilarious and sad how trailers have trailers for themselves immediately before them now.

omar little, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link

Not liking that at all, the CGI stands out as CGI more than in GDT's movies, the wise-cracking feels like they took too much of a cue from Deadpool, Hellboy just doesn't sound right without Perlman's voice, Ian McShane is no John Hurt.

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link

Good points:

1) Neil Marshall is my favorite kind of insane (see Doomsday if you haven't)
2) MILLA
3) It's gotta at least be better than Golden Army, which SUUUUUCKED

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

this is a neil marshall flick? ok I'm interested

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link

Not liking that at all, the CGI stands out as CGI more than in GDT's movies, the wise-cracking feels like they took too much of a cue from Deadpool, Hellboy just doesn't sound right without Perlman's voice, Ian McShane is no John Hurt.

― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, December 19, 2018

love u milo but this is crazy talk

1. CGI - longstanding tradition of CGI improving between advance trailers and release
2. wisecracking - have you read Hellboy?
3. Perlman - no, leaning toward hell no. love Perlman but his Hellboy was terrible.
4. Bruttenholm - agree John Hurt was well cast. McShane a little more 1946-1952-style but he's A+ in everything other than American Gods so let's see how it plays

Speaking as an unabashed lover of the books, this trailer alone is already more enjoyable than any of GDT's work with the character or his world. No telling if it will translate into a satisfying feature, but the tone feels right and Harbour is killing it.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link

Eehhhhhhhhhhh. I like Marshall, but his genre riffing I think is more miss than hit. This one looks cheap - CGI doesn't get polished *that* much * and less than charming, especially after the GdT ones, which at least had character.

Has McShane played the Devil yet?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link

Hellboy would have been better off without GDT period full stop.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link


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