otherwise, exxxcellent ep!! wanton cleopatra ok by me, no use re-historicizing that, added junkie indie frisson just icing on the cake.
speaking of shakespeare, i was waiting to see the stoic brutus emerge, since they started him as a toff. reunion with mama very well done. it's a cold world!
― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 17 October 2005 06:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:22 (eighteen years ago) link
There were gratuitous lesbian interpolations! Ah well.
There will be no episode next week? Why?
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― geoff (gcannon), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 03:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:11 (eighteen years ago) link
That was perhaps the best directed episode so far, though. Even Atia was pleasant enough.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 10:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 11:38 (eighteen years ago) link
What did you expect, the entire cast is British after all
― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 11:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 02:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 02:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 03:20 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm actually surprised they don't do more co-productions in this vein.
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link
isnt he the best charachter on the show? I love when caesar asks for his opinion and he PLOTS.
― Lovelace (Lovelace), Thursday, 3 November 2005 01:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 3 November 2005 01:09 (eighteen years ago) link
vorenus for magistrate is pretty inspired even if the "inevitable seperation" of v. and pullo is kind of zzz. and all the stuff w octavian was terrific.
― geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 3 November 2005 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link
They got lazy on the passage of time again - "Oh, say, future Augustus YOU'VE BEEN GONE TWO YEARS. YES, TWO YEARS HAVE PASSED SINCE THAT OTHER EPISODE. How goes it?"
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Thursday, 3 November 2005 06:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyway, in general yes but the incest was great! The way he behaves afterward is everything Atia tries and fails to be.
I'm not sure how you want them to mark the passage of time. I mean, it would be nice if the kid looked a few years older, but.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 3 November 2005 08:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― leigh (leigh), Thursday, 3 November 2005 10:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 3 November 2005 11:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 3 November 2005 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link
http://store.hbo.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2079010
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 3 November 2005 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link
If you're American you might be a little surpised about British terrestrial tv stations' attitudes to nudity/violence/swearing etc.; post-watershed (ie after 9pm in the evening) pretty much anything goes. I'm often surprised about how coy mainstream American tv is.
So lots of landing strips in evidence last night.
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 3 November 2005 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― chap who would dare to spy on his best mate's ex (chap), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 3 November 2005 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link
The accents don't bother me at all - I'm used to 'classical' peeps speaking some form of BBC English. I can't imagine it done any other way.
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Thursday, 3 November 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 3 November 2005 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm not shitting you guys.
Why did I dream this and what does it say about me? Ugh.
― Lovelace (Lovelace), Monday, 7 November 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 7 November 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link
first episode was okay!
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 7 November 2005 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Monday, 14 November 2005 05:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 14 November 2005 10:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― leigh (leigh), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm glad Niobe is dead, in a way - the baby plot and the Servilia vs. Julie Cooper plot were, by far, the weakest elements of the series. If you want to portray Roman women, wonderful, but don't stick them with awful, catty side-plots.
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 21 November 2005 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link
Since the Atia/Servilia relationship is treated as the cause of many major events, most notably the murder of Caesar (but it's also why Caesar leaves Rome to chase after Pompey, as I recall), it's hard to consider it a "side-plot". And, although I suppose I don't really want to go down this road, I'm not sure why Servilia's and Atia's sarcastic and subtle grabs for power are considered "catty", but Caesar's, Anthony's, and Cato's aren't -- oh, except for the penis thing.
I think the problem had more to do with Cooper's [is that her name? Atia's] uninspired take on the role, and the ridiculous lesbian bits.
Anyway, I'm pretty happy with that ending, and season 2 will be interesting. Octavian (who started out too old and will surely soon be too young) vs. Anthony vs. Brutus should be interesting. Don't know what they'll do with Vorenus or Pullo, though. But Cleopatra should come back, no?
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 21 November 2005 11:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― chap who would dare to tell uninteresting celeb spotting stories (chap), Monday, 21 November 2005 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link
Vorenus and Pullo have allegiances to Marc Anthony and Octavian - so they'll start out fighting alongside them against the conspirators, and then against each other when the two split.
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 21 November 2005 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 21 November 2005 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link