HIS DARK MATERIALS

(they would all work very well as very good 150-minutes-ish movies but as average or possibly just QUITE good 150 minutes movies they might be really bad.

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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BE ON GUARD FOR ANY SLASH/FIC WRITERS!

(I have a friend who's become fascinated by the slash community rather than by slash itself.)

Kinda like the Tripods when I was a kid. I remember loving that when I was younger, as I remember they televised the first two books of the trilogy, left with a massive cliffhanger and never produced the final series.

Also, artists of this kind are also extremely aware of their own failings. More often than not, if they don't think they're writing their best, then they'll often quit rather than produce something they're not happy with. He can certainly afford to quit.

Thirdly, it's possible that he was attached principally as a draw to financiers and partners.

This would be a great idea - in the vein of 'The Box Of Delights'. The stage play was very good btw - skipped out the wheelies/Mary Malone, which I thought really diluted the pace of the books towards the end. And the witches rocked - esp. Ruta Skadi.

I never read the books or saw the TV series -- but! For some bemusing reason, the official Boy Scout magazine Boys' Life serialized all three books in comic book form, one page per montly issue. Lasted something like four years!

"George touched Anne's **** with her ****, **** and slowly **** up her ****."

Am I the only person on this thread who actually likes Mary Malone, by the way?

Who else has seen these, then?

I suppose the movies will be disappointing if they get made, but I hope they do get made just for the controversy. What I dread is that all the anti-church God-killing stuff will somehow get excised and we'll get a movie about a girl who goes to the North Pole and saves her friend Roger with the help of some bears and a guy in a balloon. But maybe Pullman wouldn't allow that.

His Dark Materials = The Matrix Trilogy + Bears

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also it pissed me off the way the crowd giggled self-consciously *every* *fucking* *time* the gallivespians appeared. shut up!

I was disappointed that Lyra tails off from being the headstrong protagonist to a figure often in need of protection at the hands of her man in the second and third.

I'm surprised he never even tried to underline the message about 'killing God' - it wasn't that the two of them killed God, really - they set him free. 'God' himself was a prisoner of the theocrats, kept alive to ensure their tyranny - that's by far the most subtle metaphor of the trilogy, but he never even points back to it.

Where it shines is the love he shows interaction between characters - the noble gyptians (were they Roma or Irishmen?) protecting Lyra, the witch-councils, all the sections with Mary and the wheeled creatures. When Pullman moved away from his Big Themes and advancing the plot, the writing was truly exhilirating and joyous in a way that I've never encountered in fantasy.

..One would assume.

(this is all going from slightly shaky memories of the book, though, so I could be wrong)

doesn't he mention some connection to the dutch too?

I don't remember this at all - but, Holland can also refer to a large part of the South Lincolnshire fenland.