Kim
― Kim Cooper, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
When bubblegum goes bad:
Some day, I’ll tell you guys how I saw the reformed 1910 Fruitgum Company get fired mid-set from the lounge of the Holiday Inn in Alpena, MI.— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) October 17, 2020
It is indeed. I was in town doing a story for the Phoenix. The band was drunk and getting heckled. One of the guys heckled back, called a guy’s wife a fcking cnt, and the manager came out and shitcanned the lot of them to rousing applause.— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) October 17, 2020
My recollection is that the 1910 FC was one of those studio concoctions so I have no idea whether these schmoes were actually the original band or not. But they ruined its good name in northern Michigan anyway.— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) October 17, 2020
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 October 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link
What the...?
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 01:04 (three years ago) link
Sad days for the nostalgia circuit.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 October 2020 01:07 (three years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/1910Fruitgum2007.jpg/640px-1910Fruitgum2007.jpgstill one original member as of 2019 per wiki
― brimstead, Sunday, 18 October 2020 01:14 (three years ago) link
I wonder if Brent ever found out that his passion is actually rooted in the late '60s.
― clemenza, Sunday, 18 October 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link
Early '70s bubblegum would be...Edison Lighthouse, Vanity Fare, Bobby Sherman, Alive N Kickin', White Plains. Still very much around, but a second wave, to coin a phrase, after all the Buddah/Kasenetz-Katz stuff.
― clemenza, Sunday, 18 October 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link
So... Tony Burroughs and some others?
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 01:40 (three years ago) link
Had to look up the name, but yeah--my idea of early '70s bubblegum seems more British than American, a bunch of studio bands with overlapping personnel.
― clemenza, Sunday, 18 October 2020 01:42 (three years ago) link
I met this guy once whose claim to fame was having been the vocal coach for Alive N Kickin’, that vocalist being named Pepe something.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 01:44 (three years ago) link
Ron Dante was kind of evenly matched with Tony Burroughs, look him up too if you have to.
You could add the Jackson 5 of "ABC" and the Osmonds of "One Bad Apple," even if no one thinks of the Jackson 5 as bubblegum anymore, or of the two as inhabiting the same universe.
― clemenza, Sunday, 18 October 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link
Pepe Cardona. I forgot another guy who was in Alive N Kickin’, Bruce Sudano, a Tommy James protégé who later married Donna Summer and co-wrote “Bad Girls, among other songs.
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link
Have you read the Charles L. Hughes book in which “One Bad Apple” is kind of the centerpiece?
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 01:51 (three years ago) link
No--I'll look that up.
― clemenza, Sunday, 18 October 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link
Essential reading:
https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1328768801l/340939.jpg
― Federation of Inter-State Truckers (I M Losted), Sunday, 18 October 2020 11:58 (three years ago) link
There's a new 3CD comp due out in the UK on 23 October: Bubblerock Is Here To Stay! The British Pop Explosion 1970-73
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/product/bubblerock-is-here-to-stay-the-british-pop-explosion-1970-73-various-artists-3cd/
TRACK LISTING
DISC ONE1. GROOVIN’ WITH MR. BLOE – Mr. Bloe2. IT’S THE SAME OLD SONG –The Weathermen3. THE BANNER MAN – Blue Mink4. COME ON ROUND – Paintbox5. 17 – Simon Turner6. THAT SAME OLD FEELING – Pickettywitch7. FRIEND OF MNE – Dr. Marigold’s8. FEEDBACK – Majority One9. POLLUTION – Gingerbread10. NEANDERTHAL MAN – Hotlegs11. I FOUGHT THE LAW – Posse12. ALEXANDRA PARK (PALISADES PARK) – Fumble13. EMMA LOUISE – Stud Leather14. CIRCUS GIRL – Clifford T. Ward15. MY LITTLE ONE – The Marmalade16. GAY GIRL – Jonathan King17. DIRTY OLD MAN – Lieutenant Pigeon18. SUMMER FEELING – Paul Gabriel19. TAWNY WOOD – The Answers20. MY LITTLE GIRL – Autumn21. HELLO, HELLO, HELLO –Stormy Petrel22. TURN ME ON – The Matchmakers23. SHE LA LEY – The Secrets24. HELLO GOODBYE – Sparrow25. TRAVELLIN’ MAN – Tristar Airbus26. SUNDAY GIRL – Dunno27. TOP TEN RECORD – Rick Price28. LEAP UP AND DOWN – St. Cecelia
DISC TWO1. JOHNNY REGGAE- The Piglets2. DREAMS ARE TEN A PENNY – Kincade3. WIG-WAM BAM – The Sweet4. I LIKE IT THAT WAY – The Tremeloes5. IT AIN’T EASY – The Sad6. HAVE YOU SEEN YOUR MOTHER, BABY, STANDING IN THE SHADOW? – Tina Harvey7. BABY WALK BACK – Gumm8. POPSICLES AND ICICLES –The Angelettes9. DA DOO RON RON – Grumble10. BIG FAT ORANGUMAN – Jungle Jim11. LOOP DI LOVE – Shag12. DON’T STICK STICKERS ON MY PAPER KNICKERS – X Certificate13. MAYFAIR – Millie14. ON THE DOLE – Arthur’s Mother15. WHEN YOU ARE A KING –White Plains16. COWBOY CONVENTION –California Brakemen17. LADY ROSE – Mungo Jerry18. SWEET WATER – Jeff Astle19. CECILIA – Harmony Grass20. IT’S MY PARTY – Bubblerock21. RUPERT – Jackie Lee22. CRICKETS – Peter Cowap23. RAG-A-BONE JOE – Pluto24. ROUND AND ROUND – Ricky Wilde25. COME INTO MY HEART –Rusty Harness26. WARM ME – Festival27. SHE LEFT I DIED – Terry Dactyl &The Dinosaurs featuring Jona Lewie28. HANG ON SLOOPY – Sakkarin
DISC THREE1. SUSPICION – Vivian Stanshall& Gargantuan Chums2. GOLDEN OLDIE SHOW – Stardust3. I CAN’T HIDE* – Bill Fay4. HARRY THE EARWIG –Pete Dello & Friends5. THE ROLLY POLE COASTER – Buggy6. I WANT TO GO BACK THERE AGAIN – B. J. Arnau7. THE JET SONG (WHEN THE WEEKEND’S OVER) – Design8. LAMPLIGHT – David Essex9. CALIFORNIA CALLING – Fickle Pickle10. MY SWEET POTATO – Butterwick11. YOU GOT A GOOD THING – Touchwood12. JENNIFER PLEASE – Gary Warren13. KEEP ON DANCING – Bay City Rollers14. HELLO BLINKERS – Kev & Lol15. OUR JACKIE’S GETTING MARRIED – Peter Skellern16. NURSERY LANE – Christyan17. TODAY – Rich Tea18. SAMSON AND DELILAH –Middle Of The Road19. YOU GOTTA HAVE IT SOMETIME – Sparky20. WHO IS THE DOCTOR? – Jon Pertwee21. TIMOTHY JONES – Rod Thomas22. TODAY’S A TOMORROW – Crush23. DON’T YOU KNOW (SHE SAID HELLO) – Butterscotch24. HEART OF STONE – Kenny25. LIVING RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO AN ANGEL – Summer Wine26. BEEP BEEP – The Bumbles27. DRIVIN’ DRIVIN’ – High Noon28. YER BIG GIRL’S BLOUSE – Flanelcat29. BUBBLEROCK IS HERE TO STAY – Bubblerock
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 18 October 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link
Very British! I don't think I'm familiar with even 10 of those names (never mind the songs). I did think about "In the Summertime" as being kind of bubblegummy, even though it's more jug-band folky.
― clemenza, Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
Same here
― Here Comes a Slightly Irregular (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link
Simon (Fisher) Turner later turned up soundtracking Derek Jarman films! This time period predates my awareness of pop music by a year or two, but even so I've heard OF about a third of these. Fumble, Grumble and The Bumbles are not to be confused. That Jon Pertwee song is great btw. Lastly, wtf is Bill Fay doing here?
― logout option: disabled (Matt #2), Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
I do have a great Simon Turner song on my hard-drive, lifted from a glam compilation: "(Baby) I Gotta Go."
― clemenza, Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link
I counted: I recognize 13 names on there.
― clemenza, Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link
I used to have a lot of these, but sold them on. I suspect that Vince Clarke accidentally or deliberately lifted a section of Kincade's 'Dreams Are Ten A Penny' for Erasure's 'A Little Respect'...
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link
I know 5 of these tracks and recognise 23 names. Some unexpected names in there; Jon Pertwee (Dr Who), Vivian Stanshall (Bonzo Dog eccentric) and the one which really raised by eyebrows, Jeff Astle (West Brom striker). I assume Millie isn't the 'My Boy Lollipop' singer. Two Jonathan King productions is two too many.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link
On the subject of footballers: The Sad 'It Ain't Easy' was subsequently covered by Kevin Keegan, of all people - but Keegan's version omits the third verse of the the original, in which the narrator outs himself as bisexual ("I am the king of all the queens", indeed). One wonders how many of Keegan's "people" had ever heard it.
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link
Went to check out the Bubblegum music book, latest review only gives it one star.I didn't realise they had such a passionate fan base.
It had one page for 1910 FRUITGUM COMPANY as a band. OH, they are mentioned on various pages, but as a band they have one page. It did tell me anything I did not already know, including the fact Mark Gutowski was hand picked to sing lead on SIMPLE SIMON. It more information on the Archie's, AND THEY WERE A CARTOON!
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link
xp Jonathan King had a hand in at least 13 of these tracks, by the way....
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link
I did wonder if he was involved in other tracks. I only recognised The Piglets and his own track of course. I'd put money on X-Certificate being one of his.
― Dan Worsley, Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link
16. GAY GIRL – Jonathan King17. DIRTY OLD MAN – Lieutenant Pigeon
― Welcome to Nonrock (breastcrawl), Sunday, 18 October 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link
X-Certificate is very JK-like, but not actually one of his. There was also another version by Katina, which I slightly prefer.
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 18 October 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
The JK-involved tracks which I recognise from memory: The Weathermen, Simon Turner, Hotlegs, St Cecilia*, The Piglets*, Tina Harvey, The Angelettes, Shag*, Bubblerock*, Ricky Wilde, Terry Dactyl, Sakkarin*. Asterisks denote pseudonyms for JK himself.
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 18 October 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
Ugh, bloody auto formatting...
Pseudonyms are: St Cecilia, Piglets, Shag, Bubblerock, Sakkarin.
― mike t-diva, Sunday, 18 October 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
I'm hypothesizing the huge disparity between British and American bubblegum hits may have something to do with the genre being something of a multimedia phenomenon, with visuals often an integral part of their appeal, in an era when it was impossible for Americans to watch British TV and vice versa and the internet/social media wasn't a thing yet.
― Lee626, Sunday, 18 October 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link
There's a lot there that was previously called "novelty" in the UK and it is a feat if marketing to call it bubblegum now.
The Jonathan King stuff is largely terrible and has all been previously compiled repeatedly. No excuse for adding it here.
― everything, Sunday, 18 October 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link
I misspelled the name of Tony Burrows twice on this thread, even though I had spelled it correctly on plenty of other threads before.
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link