Songs where the songwriter confuses A with B

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In "Punk Rock Girl" by the Dead Milkmen, I was always confused by the fact that he says "someone played a Beach Boys song on the jukebox / It was California Dreamin' / So we started screamin' / On such a winter's day."

California Dreamin' is by the Mamas and the Papas, of course-- but I found out much later that the Beach Boys also did it. But who the hell has ever heard that version?

res, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, there's this one Tool song on "Opiate" where he says that his drugged-out friend thought he was a "fire drill." I'm almost positive he meant "fire hydrant."

res, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link

In "Bald Headed Hoes," Willie D says "There should be a crime against bald headed hoes," when he means to say "there should be a LAW against bald headed hoes."

Then again, later in the song, he advocates violence against the titular figures, so perhaps he did mean what he said after all. It's hard to say.

Savannah Smiles, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link

In "You're Beautiful" singer/songwriter James Blunt confuses baring your soul with being a bit rapey
Good stuff

VeronaInTheClub, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

(x-post) >> California Dreamin' is by the Mamas and the Papas, of course-- but I found out much later that the Beach Boys also did it. But who the hell has ever heard that version?

Never knew this! Wiki sez BBoys did two cover versions. One was released on a Radio Shack sampler cassette Rock 'N' Roll City in 1983, and a re-recorded version appeared on the CD Made in The USA (1986.) I kinda doubt the Milkmen were aware of this, and always assumed they made the transposition just cuz it seems funny (or natural) that the narrator wouldn't know (or care about) the difference.

Dan Peterson, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I kinda doubt the Milkmen were aware of this, and always assumed they made the transposition just cuz it seems funny (or natural) that the narrator wouldn't know (or care about) the difference.

The latter might be true, but I'm pretty sure that they had a sort of encyclopedic knowledge of music trivia, as evidenced by many somewhat obscure musical references in their back catalog.

res, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

The Supremes' "Back in My Arms Again" confuses Romeo with the Casanova promiscuous type: "And Flo, she don't know / Cause the boy she loves is a Romeo."

Joseph McCombs, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

D&D Allstars: 1-2 Pass It -- KRS One says "Your lyrics are stiff like David Koppel" -- I assume he meant news anchor Ted and not an obscure reference to a British photographer

Hurting 2, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

haha Myonga, I never thought about that!

Sundar, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

foxy's verse on affirmative action ftw:

[Foxy Brown]
In the black Camaro
Firm deep all my niggaz hail the blackest sparrow
Wallabee's be the apparel
Through the darkest tunnel, I got visions of multimillions
in the biggest bundle, in the Lex pushed by my nigga Jungle
He money bags got Moet, Sean Don
Bundle of sixty-two, they ain't got a clue what we about to do
My whole team we shittin hard like Czar
Sosa, Foxy Brown, Cormega, and Escobar
I keep a fat marquis piece, laced in all the illest snake skin
Armani sweaters Carolina Hebrera
Be The Firm baby, from BK to the 'Bridge
My nigga Wiz, operation Firm Biz, so what the deal is
I keep a phat jew-el, sippin Crist-ies
Sittin on top of fifty grand in the Nautica Van, uhh!
We stay incogni' like all them thug niggaz in Marcy
The Gods, they praise Allah with visions of Gandhi
Bet it on, my whole crew is Don Juan
On Cayman Island with a case of Cristal and Papa Chula spoke
Nigga with them Cubans that snort coke
Raw though, an ounce mixed wit leak that's pure though
Flippin the bigger picture, the bigger nigga with the cheddar
Was mad dripper, he had a fuckin villa in Manilla
We got to flee to Panama, but wait it's half and half
Keys is one and two-fifth, so how we flip
Thirty-two grams raw, chop it in half, get sixteen, double it times three
We got forty-eight, which mean a whole lot of cream
Divide the profit by four, subtract it by eight
We back to sixteen, now add the other two that 'Mega bringin through
So let's see, if we flip this other key
Then that's more for me, mad coke and mad leak
Plus a five hundred, cut in half is two-fifty
Now triple that times three, we got three quarters of another key
The Firm baby, volume one uhh..

and what, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

(Chamillionaire)
Ay big time
I'm tryna see the president dead (presidents dead?), that's what I said
But not the one in the white house man, the one with the green presidents head
Blue or red I'm still ridin', ladies be tellin' me that I'm sexcist
And I guess it's, 'cause I always love the money over dresses
Always been about them horizontal lines through them S's
That's a dollar sign, Impala flyin' watch how she undresses

and what, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 17:24 (fifteen years ago) link

(Jay-Z)
Thirty-eight revolve like the sun round the earth
Try to play hard get you found round the dirt
Six shell casings found round your shirt

and what, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Elliott Smith saying "Duracell Bunny" in Rose Parade.

bear, bear, bear, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

no bullshit it originally was the duracell bunny, energizer ripped it off

and what, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

The Duracell Bunny predates the Energizer Bunny, which actually began as a parody of the Duracell Bunny commercials and toys that became a collectible item. There are differences in appearance — the Energizer Bunny wears sunglasses, has larger ears, is a different shade of pink and has a different body shape. Also, while the Energizer Bunny is a single rabbit, the Duracell Bunnies are a species. The Energizer Bunny is always depicted with a drum, as the Duracell Bunny toys of which it is a parody had drums. The actual Duracell Bunny advertising campaign has moved beyond this, and Duracell Bunnies are usually depicted as doing something other than beating a drum.

and what, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh word. I just remember reading some interview with him where he copped to having the other bunny in mind when he wrote it.

bear, bear, bear, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

In "King of Rock," Run-DMC confuse the Beatles with the Police.

Douglas, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, in "Bled White," Elliott Smith confuses the F train with the N or R. Perhaps he was at 34th St., where they intersect.

Douglas, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

dunno if anyone's noticed this, but in the song 'ironic', alanis morrisette confuses things which are annoying (e.g. 'rain on your wedding day') with things which are ironic.

banriquit, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

In "King of Rock," Run-DMC confuse the Beatles with the Police.

-- Douglas, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 18:44 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

At time of recording, there were three members of The Beatles.

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ good find! maybe she did it on purpose to be "ironic" lol

and what, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

X-Clan

My style is deep, deeper than atlantis, deeper than the sea floor travelled by the mantis.

Oilyrags, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Jay-Z has always been an adamant opponent of the Copernican model.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

in the song 'gold digger' kanye west confuses 'ska punk' with 'hen fap'.

banriquit, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

^^

the post that had to be made

dell, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Far out, I never heard of no "Duracell Bunny" till now! I missed that ad campaign entirely.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

That Foxy Brown verse is kind of o_O

mh, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Isn't the Alanis Morrisette thing common knowledge?

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:56 (fifteen years ago) link

At time of recording, there were three members of The Beatles.

This is another one where they copped to being straight-up wrong, guys genuinely thought there were always three Beatles (unlike the 417 that quantum mathematics have established as co-existing within the Schrodingerian fifth position).

energy flash gordon, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 02:38 (fifteen years ago) link

How can I go on / When every alpha particle hides a neon nucleus

In the song "Richard", Billy Bragg confuses the noble gases neon and helium.

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 08:26 (fifteen years ago) link

what a loser

s1ocki, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

this thread is really primo material btw... good work all around

s1ocki, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

(Lil Wayne)
Young moolah baby
I got money on money on money on money
on top of more money on top of my shit like flies
open that ferrari f 5 like eyes up and down ocean drive
jumpin up out that maybach with a bitch way back to tease them thighs
she got a tattoo on her booty and it say 305
DJ Khaled say it's a movie now don't forget your lines,
Cause you dont want me to edit before we roll the credits
bitch give me my credit
i'm so energetic
i'm f**kin like a rabbit smokin on lettuce
whatever i want i get it
i meant it if i said it
and i say i keep it pumpin i aint talkin unletted
if you want it come get it
cause boy i'm ready
i get that fast fetty they should call me Tom Petty
got two bitches one peanut butter one jelly
i'm a American gangster already

richard petty is the NASCAR driver, tom petty is a singer/songwriter

and what, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link

A) Halloween
B) Not Halloween

Bushwick Bill (My MInd is Playin' Tricks on Me)

Bobbi Peru, Friday, 27 June 2008 05:52 (fifteen years ago) link

early morning april 4th a shot rings out in the memphis sky

balls, Friday, 27 June 2008 07:03 (fifteen years ago) link

that beach boys 'california dreaming' got what felt like alot of airplay on mtv at the time, here's the horror - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAQ-AeUlijU. big al jardine showcase. lotta sax. i think it was the followup to the slightly bigger hit 'getcha back' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Pk9kwcGKk - really really shoddy production on these things, the vocals on 'getcha back' are just stunningly schlocky. really w/ these, roth's 'california girls', 'wipeout' (the best of this bunch by many miles), and then of course 'kokomo' the beach boys were hustling pretty hard for a hit then.

balls, Friday, 27 June 2008 07:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Y'all niggaz is scared, I'm your worst nightmare squared
That's double for niggaz who ain't mathematically aware

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Friday, 27 June 2008 08:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Nice, or possibly Smooth

"Like Dizzy Gillespie played the sax"

Oilyrags, Friday, 27 June 2008 12:06 (fifteen years ago) link

In The Crazy Word of Arthur Brown's rendition of "Fire", Arthur Brown confuses being the god of hellfire with being Arthur Brown.

Neil S, Friday, 27 June 2008 12:13 (fifteen years ago) link

In "Tambourine", Eve seems to think the Taj Mahal is a palace, rather than a mausoleum:

"Doin it big like I live in da Taj Mahal,"

shieldforyoureyes, Friday, 27 June 2008 12:20 (fifteen years ago) link

that beach boys 'california dreaming' got what felt like alot of airplay on mtv at the time, here's the horror - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAQ-AeUlijU. big al jardine showcase. lotta sax.

jesus, what is up with that video? if you turn the sound off, it's like a long-long david lynch short.

res, Friday, 27 June 2008 12:51 (fifteen years ago) link

In "Tambourine", Eve seems to think the Taj Mahal is a palace, rather than a mausoleum:

Only learned that fact myself in the last year. :(

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 27 June 2008 13:28 (fifteen years ago) link

"I'm a venereal disease like a menstrual bleed." - Lil Wayne

lindseykai, Friday, 27 June 2008 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

In Eve's defense, living in the Taj Mahal would be pretty sweet even if it were an abbatoir

nabisco, Friday, 27 June 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i dont know if thats relavent here, and it was written with full awareness,but "left of the dial" - the replacements:
"pretty girls are growing up
playing make up,wearing guitar"

Zeno, Saturday, 28 June 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Re Dead Milkmen and "California Dreamin'", Made in the USA was a popular comp, and lots of people heard that cover, but CD jukeboxes were exceedingly rare in 1988 and it wasn't a single.

Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, 29 June 2008 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, maybe it was a single. The important thing is that someone needs to flesh out the entry for "Jukebox" on Wikipedia.

Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, 29 June 2008 03:21 (fifteen years ago) link

"Y'all niggaz is scared, I'm your worst nightmare squared
That's double for niggaz who ain't mathematically aware"

Ha, wow. Who was that?

Chris in Belfast, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Cannibus

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

It's OK, because my nightmare is 2.

Alba, Monday, 30 June 2008 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

"The Night Chicago Died" is about a shoot-out between the Chicago Police and gangsters tied to Al Capone. It was inspired by the real-life Saint Valentine's Day Massacre,[2] although that involved Capone's men killing seven of Bugs Moran's gang members and had nothing to do with the police. No confrontation large enough to leave around one hundred police deaths ever happened. Al Capone was arrested in 1932 for income tax evasion.

The song's events supposedly take place "on the East Side of Chicago". Chicago has three commonly referred-to regions: the North Side, the West Side and the South Side. There is no East Side, as Lake Michigan is immediately east of Downtown Chicago. While there is an area of Chicago known as "East Side", it is a neighborhood on the Far South Side on the Illinois/Indiana state line. East Side is also several miles away from where Capone lived on Prairie Avenue in Chicago. Furthermore, in the 1920s, East Side was known for being a quiet, residential, and predominantly Eastern European neighborhood—a sharp contrast from the site of the bloodbath described in the song.

Songwriters Peter Callender and Mitch Murray said in interviews (most notably on Beat Club shortly after the song's smash success) that they had never been to Chicago before that time, and that their knowledge of the city and that period of its history had been based on gangster films. (Callender defended his interpretation of Chicago's geography by saying, "There's an East Side of everywhere!")

As reported by History.com:

"...in England there were at least a few young men that didn’t have all the facts straight, and in the 1970s their pop group from Nottingham turned their romantic misunderstanding of American history into a historically dubious yet gloriously catchy hit record. Though it was never intended for the American market, Paper Lace’s "The Night Chicago Died" crossed the Atlantic and became a #1 hit on the U.S. pop charts..."[2]

Paper Lace sent the song to the mayor of Chicago, Richard Daley, who greatly disliked it.[3] A member of Daley's staff is quoted as saying that Paper Lace should "jump in the Chicago River, placing your heads under water three times and surfacing twice. Pray tell us, are you nuts?”[4]

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:00 (one month ago) link

The Antartica route was discontinued in 1981, after lots of Journey fans who showed up at the train station asking to go "anywhere" ended up freezing to death there.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 21 February 2024 18:02 (one month ago) link

Play Don't Stop Believin' on a piano with a lot of jagged passing chords and a plaintive growl, rhyme "believing" with "bleeding" somewhere, and you could mistake the lyric for early Tom Waits.

bendy, Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:45 (one month ago) link

It would be called "Streetlight People"

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:55 (one month ago) link

Just a city boi

Born and raised in North Hanoi

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 22 February 2024 17:22 (one month ago) link

Once there was this girl who
left her small town to take the midnight train
But when she bought her ticket
She didn't know where she was going
She said it didn't matter
Just take me anywhere

Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 February 2024 17:31 (one month ago) link

Collected via social media:

Maybe I'm being pedantic but the new Dua Lipa song, Houdini, uses the line "Catch me or I go Houdini" to imply she'll disappear. But Houdini was primarily an escape artist. Outside of the metamorphosis trick, which was a swap, he never disappeared himself. It feels like the song writer had no idea other than the name means magician.

Sony's Sports Walkman Universe (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 03:14 (one month ago) link

(primo pedantic post, imo)

Sony's Sports Walkman Universe (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 03:15 (one month ago) link

Houdini plays the mamba

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 13:12 (one month ago) link

Melle Mel confuses salty with bitter

cozen itt (wins), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 13:52 (one month ago) link

I've brought this up elsewhere, but in "Hot Stuff" by Donna Summer the songwriter seems to confuse making other people's phones ring with having your own phone rung.

Sittiin' here eatin' my heart out waiting
Waiting for some lover to call
Dialed about at thousand numbers lately
Almost rang the phone off the wall

Someone offered the explanation that this may be the British usage of "ring," as in another word for call, and in fact the lyricist is British (Pete Bellotte, I think). Always sounded funny to me though.

Josefa, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 14:39 (one month ago) link

that reads like two separate thoughts to me - first two lines are "i'm waiting for a lover to find me," second two lines are "i'm actively out here looking for lovers as well"

na (NA), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 14:42 (one month ago) link

But whose phone is being rung off the wall?

Josefa, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 14:45 (one month ago) link

The LOL Britishes explanation seems likely but awkward, ungrammatical and not something anyone would say irl.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 14:57 (one month ago) link

Man, if it was Donna Summer, I'd bet all thousand numbers rang her back.

pplains, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 15:32 (one month ago) link

oh boy, ranging phones, that's where i'm a viking

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 15:54 (one month ago) link

wait, what is confusing? to ring somebody means to call them in USA too

budo jeru, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 15:55 (one month ago) link

If I heard someone say "My phone was ringing off the wall" I would assume they meant they were getting lots of calls, not making lots of calls.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 15:59 (one month ago) link

ring my phone
off the wall

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:00 (one month ago) link

Americans only started saying they "ring" someone in the Internet Age when the English language has flattened out worldwide and Americans have adopted English idioms and vice versa. No one in America in the 1980s said they would "ring" someone unless they were PBS-watching Anglophiles.

from a prominent family of bassoon players (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:02 (one month ago) link

I'm in the phone booth, it's the one across the hall
If you don't answer, I'll just ring it off the wall

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:05 (one month ago) link

"almost rang the phone off the wall" of all her friends' kitchens guys come on jeez

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:15 (one month ago) link

Me, in a song I wrote:

"I sent my coals to Coventry"

Which I was sure was an idiom but appears to be a conflation of "Send someone to Coventry" and "Send coals to Newcastle"

your mom goes to limgrave (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:28 (one month ago) link

Americans only started saying they "ring" someone in the Internet Age when the English language has flattened out worldwide and Americans have adopted English idioms and vice versa. No one in America in the 1980s said they would "ring" someone unless they were PBS-watching Anglophiles.


Or Blondie fans?

Alba, Saturday, 2 March 2024 07:51 (one month ago) link

Oh, just saw President Keyes' post, sorry

Alba, Saturday, 2 March 2024 07:53 (one month ago) link

I think there's a slight distinction there between ringing an object and ringing a person, with the latter being definitely rare in the US of the '70s/'80s

(Also Blondie didn't write that song, but they were certainly Anglophiles!)

Josefa, Saturday, 2 March 2024 14:44 (one month ago) link

I don't think you "ring" an object in the UK either though? People don't say "ring my phone", they say "ring me".

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:03 (one month ago) link

HP Baxxter has no problem ringing up da laydeez:

"I’ve always been the party pleaser
There’s not a doubt, I’ve checked all the ladies out

Ring me up!
Skip to the dip now!
What we say?
Jigga Jigga!

Ooooohh! Ho-ho!
Davay-davay-davay!
Jigga Jigga!
Allright!
Aaaaaarrrghh!"

whether he has confused A with B, however, remains moot

massaman gai (front tea for two), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:05 (one month ago) link

ring a ring of roses?

songwriter confuses the bubonic plague with making a telephone call

massaman gai (front tea for two), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:07 (one month ago) link

You can, however, ring someone's bell

xpost

airport convention (Matt #2), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:07 (one month ago) link

anita baker - ring my bell

the white stripes - my doorbell

I did indeed circle both of these with a marker pen

massaman gai (front tea for two), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:11 (one month ago) link

oh, XP

massaman gai (front tea for two), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:12 (one month ago) link

xp to Tom Well I was thinking it's easy to slide from a common phrase like "ring my bell" to "ring my phone" and there's no confusion if Donna Summer is ringing someone else's phone. But in the phrasing of "Hot Stuff" she's first calling lots of different numbers and then one particular phone is being rung off the wall, so I was trying to imagine if in UK usage you can ring your own phone off the wall (actually someone else suggested the possibility first in another thread). But you said before that would be awkward phrasing, so maybe not.

Josefa, Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:14 (one month ago) link

She's making so many phone calls that the resonance of the ringing coming through the earpiece is going to sonically blast her own phone off the wall.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:22 (one month ago) link

You can certainly ring a bell, true! Also the changes.

The British Boy of Film Classification (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 March 2024 15:25 (one month ago) link

anita baker ward - ring my bell

pplains, Saturday, 2 March 2024 16:36 (one month ago) link

He could play a guitar just like ringing a bell

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 2 March 2024 18:33 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

In "Safe From Harm" I'm pretty sure Massive Attack didn't mean to say "what happened to the deliberately treated small details of my childhood days"

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:08 (four weeks ago) link

Haha I have always wondered about that line

Tim F, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 12:10 (four weeks ago) link


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