List The Direct References of Stereolab

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Milton Parker, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.lyricsxp.com/lyrics/i/i_feel_the_air_of_another_planet_stereolab.html
"I feel the air of another planet" / "Ich fühle luft von anderem planeten", first line of the Stefan George poem 'Entrückung', set by Schoenberg to music in the last movement of his second string quartet, now regarded as the first fully atonal piece of classical music
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1426242

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

Stereolab - Instant 0 In The Universe
http://www.discogs.com/release/192321
Bernard Parmegiani - 'Instant 0'
from 'La Création Du Monde'
http://www.discogs.com/release/173060

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

I forget the 60's film poster that was used as the template for the cover of 'Sound Dust' -- I thought it was Polanski's "Cul De Sac" but can't find a direct match, I open the door

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

Kybernetická babicka
"Cybernetic Grandmother" by Jirí Trnka, experimental animated Czech film, 1962
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0239543/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3053080331721849771

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Vannier

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.econ.duke.edu/Economists/Gifs/Marx.gif

jaymc, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Huysmans Against Nature actually has McCarthy as an intermediate step ("Anti-Nature") --

Someone has done a Youtube video somewhere of musical lifts, a couple of which are a bit "umm a I-IV-V progression isn't really a steal," but most of which are pretty obviously what they were listening to / lifting from.

nabisco, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBRA_(avant-garde_movement)

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

"First of the Microbe Hunters" was a term originally applied to Anton van Leeuwenhoek.

jaymc, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Brakhage

jaymc, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

Lyrics from Peng!33 = from opening chapter of Cent Anos de Solidad

nabisco, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

(I made that sound more highbrow than it actually is)

nabisco, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

esquivel, peter thomas sound orchestra, neu!

Mr. Hal Jam, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 21:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

P.S. Not just Perrey-Kingsley, but Perrey-Kingsley playing back to Brazil with "One Note Samba"

nabisco, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.danacountryman.com/jjp1/auto/Ondioline.jpg

The Ondioline was a vacuum tube-powered keyboard instrument, invented in 1941 [1] by the Frenchman Georges Jenny, and was a forerunner of today's synthesizers.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

One of their songs namedrops about 40 different Blue Jam sketches, which is pretty awesome bizarre.

Just got offed, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

looking up these links was occasionally very frustrating -- five years ago it was easy to google the direct reference, but at this point you've got to go through about sixty pages worth of stereolab lyrics pages / retail sites / review pages / playlists playlists playlists. the difference between acknowledging an influence and eclipsing the source by borrowing the title for your own successful project is growing.

the fact that the referents are baldly sitting there doesn't necessarily mean anyone thinks to look (and why would they, it's a pop band). it's not as if there's a place for endless trainspotting in most reviews but sometimes I wonder if this band has ever offered a single intuitive or non-pilfered moment or if the whole point is wholesale representation / recombination, in which case you'd expect the referents to be mentioned a little more often than they are

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://popsike.com/pix/20060911/190030441794.jpg

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

ok a bit of overstatement there but the depth of their borrowing sometimes leaves me a bit stunned

xpost ok if we're just going to begin posting covers of albums

http://ochtendeditie.radio6.nl/files/2007/04/tusoa.jpg

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

Which song is that Louis? Or is it easily Googlable?

DJ Mencap, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://popsike.com/pix/20060129/4828460304.jpg

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

sorry, i'm lazy.

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nothing To Do With Me
(aka Moonflies (aka Chris Morris))

(as seen on This is the thread where you talk about Chris Morris - genius, and the finest satirist of modern times )

Just got offed, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Does one of those links go to Gil Scott-Heron?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

i'm not a huge stereolab fan, but this list is mindboggling. good work, guys.

ian, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Here's an obscure one - the title of "Animal Or Vegetable (A Wonderful Wooden Reason)" which was on the Crumbduck EP, is a line from a Faust song (at least the bit in brackets is).

everything, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Should also mention the later McCarthy releases which offer a neat segueway into the first Stereolab record. (eg: "The Home Secretary Briefs the Forces of Law and Order").

everything, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 22:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.uh.edu/engines/switchedonbach.jpg

dmr, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

Does one of those links go to Gil Scott-Heron?

You're talking about the bass line to "Metronomic Underground," I take it?

jaymc, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

Song on Aluminum Tunes:

http://www.reel.com/Content/Reelimages/hollconf/1013_getcarter.jpg

jaymc, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

Pack Yr Romantic Mind from Transient Random-Noise Bursts With Announcements begins with a sample from "Pop Orbite", a song on Chico Magnetic Band's album.

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

Obvious one, they recorded a split record with her.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Fontaine
http://www.discogs.com/release/256204

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

I always thought Speedy Car had a bit of the Soft Machine about them.

But if you want to talk United States of America, it's Broadcast on their first album that really rips that.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

On Dots and Loops.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Brakhage

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Road_Again_(Canned_Heat)

oscar, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

But if you want to talk United States of America, it's Broadcast on their first album that really rips that.

I agree, I'd prefer to keep this to direct references / uncredited samples / lyrical lifts rather than vaguer incorporated influences or else I'd just be Sylvie Vartaning it up over here

first track on Refried Ectoplasm, 'Harmonium', where the 70's DJ spools up a tape which promptly breaks and falls off the reel is lifted from an aircheck of Negativland's 'Over the Edge Vol 4 - Dick Vaughan'

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.indiatomorrow.net/health/images/lemonade.jpg

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Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 24 October 2007 23:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

great work, Milton!

sleeve, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

This
http://www.yellowmelodies.com/e-zine/numero5/portadas/Stereol7.jpg

is supposed to be based on the comic series Pravda la Survireuse by Guy Peellaert.
http://www.bedetheque.com/thb_couv/pravda.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yes, this is a nice thread. Milton rocks.

nabisco, do they really reference _À Rebours_? That's one of my favorite books ever.

Turangalila, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

Here are the YouTube dissections of musical origins I was talking about. Apart from a couple things that seem too basic to see as steals (e.g., the Canned Heat), they're mostly pretty clear lifts or pastiches, without too many stretches -- and a couple disappointing "oh man, I can't believe you lifted the melody" parts. Mostly it's rhythmic grooves and feels they're snipping from things and using as a basis for their own stuff.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IrFdR7I_kjM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=s9N1uwNEraM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=E9iiJy0jWSg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LNAO-vqa6R0

Artists mentioned: Faust, Piero Piccioni, Canned Heat, Gal Costa, Krzystzof Komeda, Kraftwerk, Jean-Michel Jarre, Sun Ra, Snapper, Wanderlea, Laurie Anderson, the Association, the Archies, Serge Gainsbourg, Neu!, Silver Apples, Steve Reich, and Plastic Ono Band (as source of "Emperor Tomato Ketchup" bass line -- this was the only one that kinda surprised me!)

nabisco, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

xpost turangalila I'm not 100% sure. 'against nature' is the title in translation and a direct reference would have used the original french. the lyrics do seem to me like a commentary or response to the book, I linked them upthread

Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

if it is a reference it's admittedly not a very direct one (though I'm sure they've read it) -- with those lines about 'war', probably something else made the song's orbit as well

I actually liked this translation better, but I went for the pop edition to underscore the reference

Milton Parker, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

You're talking about the bass line to "Metronomic Underground," I take it?
Yup, that's what I'm talking about, jaymc.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 25 October 2007 00:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Milton I can't believe you didn't post this -

http://files.myopera.com/E.%20Driver/albums/35120/JohnCage.jpg

Stormy Davis, Thursday, 25 October 2007 01:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

Olv 26 off Emperor Tomato Ketchup has the lyrics "nous irons tous au paradis", surely a reference to Polnareff's "on ira tous au paradis".

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 23 September 2016 01:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Strange that this was never on that Stereolab Origins series.
Stereolab - Revox (+ a few other tracks) vs. The Modern Lovers - Roadrunner

3×5, Friday, 23 September 2016 01:58 (one year ago) Permalink

from moodles' spotify list:

The 5th Dimension - Up, Up and Away (2:45)
ABBA - Dancing Queen (3:50)
Alain Goraguer - Déshominisation (I) (3:50)
Erik Satie - Six gnossiennes - 1. Lent (3:02)
Alessandro Alessandroni - Una storia (3:08)
Olivier Messiaen - Chant d'amour 1 (8:00)
Olivier Messiaen - Turangalîla 1 (5:05)
Andrew Rudin - Hybris (7:27)
Archie Shepp - Bakai (9:59)
The Archies - Sugar, Sugar (2:47)
B.J. Thomas - Raindrops Keep Fallin' on My Head (3:02)
Brigitte Fontaine - Une fois mais pas deux (2:47)
Can - Father Cannot Yell (7:03)
Canned Heat - On the Road Again (4:56)
The Castaways - Liar, Liar (1:52)
The Casualeers - Dance, Dance, Dance (2:40)
The Cinderellas - Baby Baby (I Still Love You) (2:37)
Cluster - Caramel (3:09)
Don Cherry - Brown Rice (5:15)
Donna Summer - Down, Deep Inside (6:06)
Eden Ahbez - Myna Bird (2:19)
Emil Richards - Garnet (January) (2:28)
The Fall - Slates, Slags, Etc. (6:34)
Faust - It's a Rainy Day, Sunshine Girl (7:32)
Francis Hime - Passaredo (3:06)
Frank Zappa - Peaches en Regalia (3:38)
Gal Costa - Divino, maravilhoso (4:20)
Gustav Holst - Neptune, the Mystic (7:58)
John Barry - 007 and Counting (3:31)
Kraftwerk - Autobahn (22:43)
Krzysztof Komeda - Pushing the Car (1:49)
Krzysztof Komeda - Main Title (2:16)
Laurie Anderson - O Superman (For Massenet) (8:27)
Marcus Belgrave - Space Odyssey (12:34)
Neu! - Hallogallo (10:07)
Neu! - Für Immer (11:17)
New Birth - Got to Get a Knutt (7:37)
Perrey & Kingsley - One Note Samba/Spanish Flea (2:07)
Peter Thomas - Angel of Promise (1:08)
Piero Piccioni - Blue Rhythm Festival (3:45)
Sérgio Mendes - Primitivo (3:57)
Silver Apples - Ruby (2:32)
Steve Reich - Four Organs (15:38)
Steve Reich - Section VIII (3:28)
Suicide - Cheree (3:42)
Suicide - Frankie Teardrop (10:26)
Sun Ra - Angels and Demons at Play (2:54)
Sun Ra - Love in Outer Space (3:53)
The Velvet Underground - European Son (7:52)
The Velvet Underground - What Goes On (4:55)
The Velvet Underground - Sister Ray (17:27)
Yes - Starship Trooper (9:28)

always need more tbh

mookieproof, Friday, 23 September 2016 02:13 (one year ago) Permalink

sadly, a lot of the cool stuff you all are finding isn't available on spotify

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 23 September 2016 02:17 (one year ago) Permalink

Maybe not a perfect match, but there's a couple places in the three-part Jenny Ondioline that sound inspired by the two-part Shoulder Pads by The Fall.

3×5, Friday, 23 September 2016 02:21 (one year ago) Permalink

Space Age Bachelor Pad Music Vs. Beach Boys - Look

3×5, Friday, 23 September 2016 03:16 (one year ago) Permalink

Refractions In The Plastic Pulse Vs. Electric Light Orchestra - The Whale

Again, how direct a reference is this? I can hear elements of a number of Stereolab songs in The Whale.

Two other Prog instrumentals that sound like Stereolab are Tic Tic Tic It Wears Off by Todd Rundgren, and The Fish by Yes. I haven't been able to connect them directly to any specific Stereolab songs, though.

3×5, Friday, 23 September 2016 03:28 (one year ago) Permalink

The Rundgren track reminds me of a lot of their later-period stuff

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 23 September 2016 03:34 (one year ago) Permalink

Beach Boys - Look also reminds me of People Do It All The Time

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 23 September 2016 03:52 (one year ago) Permalink

The biggest stretch in the Stereolab Originals series is the link between Cybele's Reverie and Une fois mais pas deux by Brigitte Fontaine, I think. However, there are Brigitte Fontaine elements across Emperor Tomator Ketchup.

Monstre Sacre Vs Brigitte Fontaine - Brigitte

3×5, Friday, 23 September 2016 04:05 (one year ago) Permalink

Moodles, absolutely. Your match is better than mine.

3×5, Friday, 23 September 2016 04:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Stereolab Origins Compared Anamorphose to Four Organs by Steve Reich. They both have the same gimmick of holding the note one beat longer, then another beat longer, but other than that, they don't sound too much alike, and Four Organs is a pretty irritating record. I would choose Palm Springs by Social Climbers as a replacement.

3×5, Friday, 23 September 2016 04:32 (one year ago) Permalink

…and The Fish by Yes. I haven't been able to connect them directly to any specific Stereolab songs, though
The bass at the start of "Retrograde Mirror Form" (on Microbe Hunters) sounds a lot like The Fish

Jeff W, Friday, 23 September 2016 11:47 (one year ago) Permalink

another Astrud Gilberto - Beginnings

mahb, Friday, 23 September 2016 13:53 (one year ago) Permalink

re: Monstre Sacre, there's also an Erik Satie piece on my list that sounds like a strong precursor, I wonder if Brigitte Fontaine was influenced by the same piece

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 23 September 2016 14:30 (one year ago) Permalink

Miss Modular <- Jean-Pierre Mirouze - Sexopolis?

(sorry if already posted, couldn't see it)

a passing spacecadet, Friday, 23 September 2016 15:05 (one year ago) Permalink

ooh, good one!

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 23 September 2016 15:18 (one year ago) Permalink

The first time I ever heard Stereolab, the immediate connection I made was Sesame Street. The first song I heard was Brakhage and it immediately reminded me of a vintage Sesame Street vignette. It might have been this, specifically. But I've never heard them list Sesame Street as an influence.

I've read a handful of 90s Stereolab articles that cite Esquivel as an influence, but I don't know that Stereolab themselves cite Esquivel, and I don't actually here the connection there at all.

3×5, Friday, 23 September 2016 17:55 (one year ago) Permalink

^There was an Esquivel comp called Space Age Bachelor Pad Music out at the time, is why?

Jeff W, Friday, 23 September 2016 21:16 (one year ago) Permalink

I think it's because there was a lounge revival in the mid-90s, right when Stereolab changed their sound, and for some reason Esquivel also made a comeback, and so they got lumped together. When I listen to him, or Martin Denny, it just doesn't have that association for me. The letter h, however...

3×5, Sunday, 25 September 2016 05:29 (one year ago) Permalink

Esquivel is pretty awesome, one of the more experimental artists from the whole "lounge" era who used theremins and synths in his stuff. Martin Denny is pretty much straight jungle lounge music whereas Esquivel can be far freakier.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 25 September 2016 16:23 (one year ago) Permalink

Stereolab (ft. Herbie Mann!) covered Esquivel in the latter part of this medley of "One Note Samba/Surfboard":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEyZSbmVoxM

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 25 September 2016 17:37 (one year ago) Permalink

Here's the original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NglD0H-cps

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 25 September 2016 17:39 (one year ago) Permalink

Also the people who are looking for Smile-era Beach Boys connections, you'd probably have a field day with Stereolab member/muse/svengali Sean O'Hagan's project The High Llamas' records Gideon Gaye & Hawaii.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 25 September 2016 17:45 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Another prog interlude: Camel - Migration

3×5, Monday, 2 January 2017 19:47 (ten months ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

Another Todd Rundgren: The Night The Carousel Burned Down

3×5, Monday, 25 September 2017 17:34 (one month ago) Permalink

I think that "One Note Samba/Surfboard" medley was done as reparation for nicking bits of both too blatantly previously.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 06:48 (one month ago) Permalink

The bass line of Metronomic Underground is awfully close to The Revolution Will Not Be Televised... hadn't really caught that before

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 15:08 (one month ago) Permalink

iirc it's stolen directly from a Yoko Ono track on Appproximately Infinite Universe

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 15:09 (one month ago) Permalink

got a flexidisc of "famous instrumentals" recently that had "One Note Samba" on it

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:10 (one month ago) Permalink

Metronomic Underground/Revolution Will Not Be Televised similarity is already noted upthread.

The Yoko Ono song in question is Mind Train, from "Fly"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK-k0kCSJcM

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:23 (one month ago) Permalink

thank you!

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:25 (one month ago) Permalink

that track is so siqq

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 18:54 (one month ago) Permalink

That Yoko track sounds like Can with yoko instead of damo.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:03 (one month ago) Permalink

I've often wondered how Ono & Lennon connected to krautrock - like, who actually gave them those records and what were they listening to - cuz its impact is really obvious on those first few Yoko records

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:07 (one month ago) Permalink

Probably Klaus, right?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:08 (one month ago) Permalink

that's my guess, but I've never seen it specifically discussed anywhere

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:09 (one month ago) Permalink

CAN seems like the most obvious thing they must have heard, maybe Faust (they initially made something of a splash in the UK press), maybe Schnitzler and Roedelius too idk

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:13 (one month ago) Permalink

they were jacked into the German experimental art scene from the beginning

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 14:44 (one month ago) Permalink


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