rfd: missy elliott - so addictive

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So Addictive is the first Missy album I really can love as a whole. The others somehow dind't work for me as a whole. Hard to explain why. Nothing else to add than Classic and i'll second Glitch-hop, it's the fututre of rock 'n roll you know.

Omar, Friday, 20 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Doesn't last. At first it was, "Oh, this is cool." Then it became "Dear god I never want to hear this again in my life." Not sure how that happened.

Melissa W, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

that's what i'm afraid of.

ethan, Saturday, 21 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I've never felt that rapping was Missy's strong suit, but that's what she does on most of the record. Of COURSE she pulls it off, in that rough cough-syrup drawl she's got. But I dunno. I just love her voice and wanted her to sing more.

Production-wise I'm beginning to feel the thing's too eager to please, each production detail sitting up sharp-like, demanding too much attention. All shiny surface bits, all the time. There's really little room to breathe. "Slap Slap Slap" might be the subtlest song on the album...!

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tracer - are the other albums any different though. I was listening to Supa Dupa Fly again today in short spurts, and when I focus on each track individually I'm amazed at how pearly-pert and attention-grabbing each production is.

Tim, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Missy raps far less on the new one, I thought.

Sterling Clover, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I feel less.. exhausted after listening to the entirety of Supadupafly, ditto Real World. But that could just be the minidisc talking. CD-to-minidisc sounds to me crunchier, more saturated, like it's encased in a transparent hard candy shell. That's what I've been listening to Miss E w/.

p.s. the mecha-fish-shimmer sound in "whatchu gonna do" is identical to the one in "energy flash".

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

p.p.s. try typing "missy elliott" into the artist search box on allmusic.com...

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

All I can say is that I can't think of anything wrong with it at all. Great.

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

All I can say is that I can't think of anything wrong with it at all. I love it.

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Erm, WTF? *slaps self*

Robin Carmody, Sunday, 22 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Actually I checked whether there was actually less rapping on Miss E than Da Real World and it's really about the same. Da Real World seems more hip hop based because so many of the raps are piled at the front of the album - "Beat Biters", "Bus A Rhyme", "Dangerous Mouths" etc, whereas on Miss E they're more evenly dispersed.

Tim, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tim -- makes sense to me. Da Real World always struck me as funny like that. How it starts off aggressive and ends up soulful. Although, in a sense, So Addictive does as well. Moving to, if not soulful, at least vulnerable.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

With Da Real World I actually reckon that - "Bus A Rhyme" excepted - the hip hop tracks tend to be the (comparatively) weaker ones. On Miss E - "One Minute Man" excepted - it's vice versa. But definitely there's a wealth of good R&B tracks on the second half of Da Real World that get ignored - "You Don't Know", "Sticking Chickens" and "We Did It" especially. I'd include "Mr. D.J." but since I always have to listen to it to remember if its rapped or sung I don't know whether it succeeds as a song. Of course, as a piece of oh-my-god mindfuckery, it's brilliant.

Tim, Monday, 23 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

nine years pass...

AND FOR THOSE WHO HATED..... YOU ONLY MADE US MORE CREATIVE!

bernard goony (The Reverend), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I miss how "Take Away" was one of the last of those spare, spacey, ballads in which she and Timbo specialized.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link

this is her best album, easy

bernard goony (The Reverend), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know why I prefer Da Real World, I just do - I think it may be the fact that it's more "generic" in a late 90s R&B sense, the way she pushes the vocal harmonies in particular to make the songs as topographically dense as the grooves are.

But then when I'm listening to So Addictive its swagger seems like the best thing ever.

Tim F, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i definitely prefer da real world, and idk if i prefer it as a whole album but the best half of supa dupa fly is better than ...so addictive, too. and under construction is more consistent all the way through.

i remember at the time it was a pretty huge stylistic shift for her - she SUDDENLY STARTED BELLOWING, basically (and so did the beats) - a pretty brave move, "get ur freak on" basically needed to be as incredible as it was for it not to grate, and make me miss her old calmer stuff.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i love so addictive cause it's like this big global party and missy was never as outsized personality-wise as she was here. pretty much every song was an in your face banger but none of them sounded like none of each other. it doesn't have the problem the first two albums have, which is they get really samey at times. it's like on those albums timbo unleashes a bag of new tricks but then repeats them throughout the album and it's kinda like is that all? you know he's more capable than that cause he just showed you how imaginitive he is, but he doesn't keep it up. whereas on so addictive, every goddamn track has a completely new set of ideas from the last, but cause of the continued party vibe, they all hang together.

i can never get into the first two albums them as wholes, even if i love some individual tracks. her later albums all come off a bit shtick-y, like she was trying hard to show you how much of a character she is, instead of just being one like she is here (totally f/w under construction tho).

but really it comes down to the fact that like half my top 20 missy joints are on this album

bernard goony (The Reverend), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 23:48 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, damn these songs all happen in a row:

"Dog in Heat" (featuring Method Man & Redman)
"One Minute Man" (featuring Ludacris)
"Lick Shots"
"Get Ur Freak On"
"Scream a.k.a. Itchin'"
"Old School Joint"
"Take Away" (featuring Ginuwine & Tweet)
"4 My People" (featuring Eve)
"Whatcha Gon' Do" (featuring Timbaland)

bernard goony (The Reverend), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link

so :( that she fell of the face of the earth

bernard goony (The Reverend), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link

"whatcha gon do" is def this album's most underrated banger. that bassline ~~~~

so :( that she fell of the face of the earth

idk people always say this but i'm kinda glad, it was all getting a bit grim right at the end and her heart obviously wasn't in it. if that's the case i'd rather she just have a nice time chilling and counting her money and reflecting on her cultural status. tbh if the long-threatened sixth album did emerge i'd be a bit wary of it.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 September 2010 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link

when me come in the spot dem wan' jock
dem nasty boys lookin around with big cocks
dem girls be plottin on how to get the rocks
so i beat they ass to the ground like i'm the cop

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 September 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that's all true but i'm sure she'll always be good for a fun song or two in between the duds and really i just miss missy ;_;

bernard goony (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 September 2010 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway, another thing i love about so addictive is that it's basically the closest she ever came to making a basement jaxx album :)

bernard goony (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 September 2010 01:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i've mostly been bumping this and kish kash the past couple days

bernard goony (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 September 2010 01:20 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway, another thing i love about so addictive is that it's basically the closest she ever came to making a basement jaxx album :)

complete w/actual basement jaxx remix! lol, i remember how she denied the title had anything to do with ecstasy, honest

bumping this now and it's a great early-morning wake-up listen

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 2 September 2010 08:07 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

checking on this for the first time since 2003 or so. still so, so on point. dog in heat is just sick. whole rec also likely as effective as timbo ever got with the guitars

bear, bear, bear, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 07:41 (thirteen years ago) link

dog in heat is just sick

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The Reverend, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 08:51 (thirteen years ago) link

It's good, Da Real World is better.

Rob Liefeld pose (chap), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link

her first 3 albums are all pretty classic

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 10:42 (thirteen years ago) link

lol, i remember how she denied the title had anything to do with ecstasy, honest

saw her on Sunday, she called out "this one is for all my ECSTASY PEO-PLLE!!"

bitchmaid (sic), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 13:19 (thirteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

Today Marks 20 years since I dropped my album “So Addictive” I want the new generation to get this album because trust me it’s still 20 YEARS ahead of NOW! I stand 10 toes down🎉🎊🎈 pic.twitter.com/xOtamBHRsT

— Missy Elliott (@MissyElliott) May 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 May 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link

You’re going to have to give us your email address and login password to follow up on that

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 15 May 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link

OK: https://ethanhein.bandcamp.com/

dow, Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:06 (two years ago) link

20 years. Holy shit.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 15 May 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link

so so so elemental, even tho i was already old when it dropped. dammmn.

Hunt3r, Sunday, 16 May 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link

Bought this shit at a sam goodys i believe

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 16 May 2021 03:37 (two years ago) link


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