― Nathan, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Anyone who claims Python wasn't politically incorrect needs to rewatch all the episodes for any number of examples -- as well as hear the bit on the Holy Grail DVD where Terry Gilliam sez that when the film first played in New York a fair amount of the audience was shocked and horrified at the Black Knight being chopped up since there was an anti- Vietnam/anti-violence mindset that allowed for no humor on the matter. Perspective, my friend. ;-)
I'll grant you that one Dalai Lama sketch, actually, it was a doozy -- but that's about it from the shows I've seen in terms of a truly memorable zing.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nicole, Sunday, 11 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Skeadas@hotmail.com, Friday, 16 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
"Fuzz: The Musical"
― J (Jay), Thursday, 10 October 2002 19:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 10 October 2002 19:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
Goddamn it I've got that "Third Wheel" ditty stuck in my head yet again. Fucking catchy it is.
― Ian Riese-Moraine. To Hell with you and your gradual evolution! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 23 April 2005 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curious George (1/6 Scale Model) (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 23 April 2005 01:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 April 2005 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 23 April 2005 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine. To Hell with you and your gradual evolution! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 23 April 2005 02:01 (nineteen years ago) link
I'M A SUPERSTAR! IN A SUPERSTAR MACHINE!
― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 23 April 2005 02:03 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/images2/OAR-P3-133-TV.jpg
― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 23 April 2005 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Saturday, 23 April 2005 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 23 April 2005 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link
classic.
― latebloomer: But when the monkey die, people gonna cry. (latebloomer), Saturday, 23 April 2005 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― efil4zelffor (deangulberry), Saturday, 23 April 2005 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― happy fun ball (kenan), Saturday, 23 April 2005 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Saturday, 23 April 2005 04:38 (nineteen years ago) link
my top 3 US comedys:the larry sanders showstrangers with candysealab2021
there has sure been a lot of david cross backlash lately. i have 1+2 plus the third season of mr show on dvd but i bought them mostly because i was searching for one particular sketch and i rarely watch them in their entirety. that said, there are few tv comedy moments that have me laughing out loud whenever i later think of them but the dice and sponge sandwich scene from the third season had me laughing hysterically whenever it would cross my mind for at least a year after i first saw it.
pleasant plains and i have been watching the ben stiller show over the past week or so. its ok but id take mr show over it any day.
oh, and sort of on topic - what the fuck is up with kelsey grammer and that sketch show?
― katharine (katharine), Saturday, 23 April 2005 06:06 (nineteen years ago) link
i still say american sketch comedy has never done better than mr. show, ever. i'm glad they cut it short before it got grotesquely awful (like later kids in the hall).
right now i'm wanting to see the streaking episode. if only for the heavenly sarah silverman's line "you sure slapped some meat in their eyes, jimmy!"
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 23 April 2005 07:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 23 April 2005 07:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 23 April 2005 07:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 23 April 2005 07:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 23 April 2005 09:42 (nineteen years ago) link
I like David Cross but there is something smug about him that grates sometimes. I far prefer Bob.
― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Saturday, 23 April 2005 10:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Oh yes, yes indeed.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 April 2005 10:32 (nineteen years ago) link
the one and only sketch on the ben stiller show that reached the heights that mr.show reached regularly. and if he hadn't been able to do it on the stiller show it probably would have ended up on mr.show.
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 23 April 2005 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
*bows in the direction of Mr. Seward, respectfully disagrees*
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 April 2005 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link
I realized it was trying to be that, but it just...wasn't. At least not constantly, not consistently, though it desperately tried hard (too hard?) to be that, forcing the humor and forcing quotes around 'loopy' and 'inspired' as a result. I saw a whole batch of episodes all at once and then a few here and there since and just...no, sorry, not more than wryly amusing here and there. Not *no* laughs, as I mention above -- Dalai Lama sketch, for instance, a definite winner. But gosh, so much of it could have been edited down, made dryer maybe...yeah, I'm not the guys actually getting up there and creating it all so I should talk, but if I find myself telling the show/sketch/actors to get on with it on a semi-regular basis then it's just not working for me, and listing a whole bunch of references won't convince me, much the same way that the huge list of injokes I can make from MST3K -- which to me just outstrips Mr. Show for laughs still, completely -- isn't going to convince someone who has seen a slew of episodes and just shrugged and moved on.
But yeah, there is the Cross factor. I love Odenkirk in Stiller, he seems dragged down and sprawling in Mr. Show = either Cross is even worse than I imagine him or the camaraderie on Stiller was a perfect secret weapon.
Anyway, Mr. Show doesn't work for me, you think the Kenna album sucks, and yet we are love. :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link
The one about Marijuana is one of the best things I've ever seen, but since every show changes into a million different bits, let me clarify that it's the one that starts off with Dave being high.
There are so many tiny details in Mr. Show to laugh at that most shows wouldn't bother to add. To say that Mr. Show was "trying to be" anything is assuming too much. It *was* a loopy and inspired show and if you see it as "trying to be" such, then I'd say you are projecting. It just is what it is.
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Saying that the show was loopy and inspired because it was loopy and inspired is a bit glib. I don't doubt you like it at all and that you enjoy it very much, so can I ask that you consider the opposite point of view might have been derived from the same basic experience, ie watching the show? As I've had to point out on similar threads before, the very thread *title* invites debate, yes?
I actually didn't have much of a problem with Cross until I saw Mr. Show, to be honest -- I was completely neutral. Now, in combination with other things of his, I am not. Is that projecting or my reaction?
Anyway, onions. Yum!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― W i l l (common_person), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:40 (nineteen years ago) link
You need to get on political TV talk shows.
(More seriously, what part of "I DO NOT THINK THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT WAS ENTERTAINING OR SUCCESSFUL AND THEREFORE SAYING SOMETHING LIKE 'YES, IT WAS ALL THOSE THINGS' FLATLY IS GOING TO MAKE ME GO 'OH RIGHT YOU ARE, I WILL DENY MY OWN EXPERIENCES IN ORDER TO SUIT YOUR REALITY" did you not understand? And why does the final line of your complaint remind me of all those messages Melody Maker used to get and print from aggreived attendees of concerts saying "Were you at the same show I was?!")
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link
All I am saying is that it would make more sense for you to say that this approach to comedy didn't work for you because "it was a little too loopy and inspired to be funny", rather than to say they were "trying to be loopy and inspired but it just... wasn't." Because it was!
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 23 April 2005 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link
wishing him the best. he just went through a complete body overhaul for Nobody into action figure physique, so i presume they did a fair amount of blood work, etc while he was getting in shape and the fact that it's apparently unclear what the problem is makes it sound pretty serious.
― Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link
welp: https://www.thedailybeast.com/actor-jay-johnston-banned-from-bobs-burgers-over-capitol-riot
― Murgatroid, Saturday, 18 December 2021 03:40 (two years ago) link
Everest his earned goodwill and the thimbles his career now.
― accordion folder full of Zoobooks (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 18 December 2021 03:48 (two years ago) link
"banned" huh
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 18 December 2021 04:31 (two years ago) link
It is a bit of a drag that Fox makes quite a few shows I like as ultimately giving any money to these motherfuckers is wrong.
Pretty much if the Simpsons had not have happened, would ANY of this Murdoch media shit gotten off the ground? Fox TV was circling the drain and pretty much the success of the Simpsons snowballed which gave them money to buy the NFL contract which snowballed into the news network.
But hey man, fight the fight I guess.
― earlnash, Saturday, 18 December 2021 06:16 (two years ago) link
yup... i've been very quick to find any off-ramp for Fox/FX/etc programming I start to enjoy.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 18 December 2021 06:31 (two years ago) link
AT&T (HBO, TBS etc.) funds OANN, so it's not much different elsewhere.
― braised cod, Saturday, 18 December 2021 07:31 (two years ago) link
The Simpsons killed democracy
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Saturday, 18 December 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
I mean...it's legit to boycott Fox, but they're Disney now, and Fox News is a completely separate entity at this point. So Murdoch isn't gonna feel your sting, I'm afraid.
― Rep. Cobra Commander (R-TX) (Old Lunch), Saturday, 18 December 2021 16:07 (two years ago) link
The regular Fox TV network isn't with Disney, who couldn't buy them because they already own ABC.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 December 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link
'80s-->'90s Fox was wild: Simpsons; Married...With Children; 21 Jump St.; In Living Color; Martin; 90210
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 December 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
Cops; America's Most Wanted
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 December 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
Werewolf
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Saturday, 18 December 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link
Herman's Head
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 December 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link
The greatest show ever: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woops!?wprov=sfti1
― A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 18 December 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
X Files
― peace, man, Saturday, 18 December 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link
Get a Life!
― Chris L, Saturday, 18 December 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link
Action, with Jay Mohr.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 December 2021 23:27 (two years ago) link
lol that it took this long
NEW: Jay Johnston — of Mr. Show, Arrested Development, The Sarah Silverman Show, Bob's Burger's, and Anchorman fame — has been arrested in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. https://t.co/HdHbVwISOk— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) June 7, 2023
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 19:05 (ten months ago) link
Talk about something not being on your bingo card (or at least, not before Jan. 6). I can only imagine how I would have reacted to this prediction back in the late '90s.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 20:50 (ten months ago) link
How could you think that this was a coup??!!
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 21:40 (ten months ago) link
Idiot!
― young sussy (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 22:32 (ten months ago) link
Not just famous, respected actor! Mr. Show begot Emmy nominations, federal indictments, and the voice of Spongebob.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 22:38 (ten months ago) link
Not sure which part of “Mr. Show actor arrested in coup attempt by President Donald Trump, who was defeated by Joe Biden” would have surprised me most back then
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 June 2023 22:51 (ten months ago) link
THR has obtained a photo of Jay Johnston from a party last October in which he appeared to be dressed as the so-called "Qanon Shaman," who previously pled guilty to storming the Capitol on Jan. 6
https://i.imgur.com/slxf9PS.jpg
― serving bundt (sic), Thursday, 8 June 2023 03:07 (ten months ago) link
Odenkirk's range is insane. he was so good playing a ditzy hunk lawyer on Seinfeld. and then a porn star on Curb. actually I really admire how a dude who's so naturally funny was willing to be the straight man so often.
― frogbs, Thursday, 8 June 2023 03:17 (ten months ago) link
not a lot of evidence these days that the arc of the universe bends towards justice, but Bob Odenkirk got to star in a prestige drama where he could show off his full range, develop it further, and get numerous accolades for it.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 8 June 2023 05:30 (ten months ago) link
he also got to be on Dr. Katz a couple times
― budo jeru, Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:15 (ten months ago) link
xp and he got to cheat death recently.
― Chris L, Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:21 (ten months ago) link
and got to make his own John Wick movie
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:23 (ten months ago) link
Nobody was so much fun
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:25 (ten months ago) link
Meanwhile, David Cross just gets to sit around collecting Alvin and the Chipmunk movie residuals while hoping no one brings up the fact that he used to be best friends with Gavin McInnes.
― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:28 (ten months ago) link
it's pretty wild to imagine that one of the greatest TV dramas ever made was nearly forced to just end on a massive cliffhanger because one of the Mr. Show guys had a heart attack
― frogbs, Thursday, 8 June 2023 14:28 (ten months ago) link
They could have just replaced Bob with David. No one would have noticed.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 June 2023 15:01 (ten months ago) link
Good find, somebody:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBsRvdHJUDk
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:12 (ten months ago) link
Hank Dobson's Mini-Mart & Country
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 8 June 2023 16:14 (ten months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSqALwnF2QA
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 10 December 2023 17:02 (four months ago) link
haha, i'm not much of a podcast listener but i just skipped to the middle to get the gist of it and bob was sharing his theory (or really, just the facts) that when a murder takes place on a tv show or movie, that murder actually happened in real life
― i'm really excited to learning more", *sunglasses fly onto dog.gif* (z_tbd), Sunday, 10 December 2023 17:10 (four months ago) link