UK Watercooler 32: Fall Into The Meaning Gap

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I imagine some kinda heavy-duty industrial cleaning machine, such as that used in the restoration of St. Paul's Cathedral, must have been needed on your teeth aftewards

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, the absinthe took care of that.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Supposedly the headhunter who got me this job tried to call me yesterday, but there was no missed calls on my phone.

So she emailed me today saying to call her and tell her how I was getting on. I'm kinda scared to, because I can't be positive about this job. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO. But at the same time, I am wary of killing the goose that lays golden eggs.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link

OH! YES!!!!

http://www.fluffhouse.org.uk/lynnette/stuff/mappe2.jpg

(linked because it is too big to post)

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link

More Fleety goodness:

http://www.sub-urban.com/fleet/

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link

You can get Cadbury's Caramel eggs now too. I'd bet they are much sweeter.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I used to eat those, too. One of those would probably kill me now.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link

So I take it the McFlurry remix now also out of the question?

suzy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I have successfully given up McDonalds completely.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I prefer kfc

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I prefer Chicken Cottage.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I got this in today http://www.enemieslist.net/homerecordings/?page_id=6

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Have a read at http://www.enemieslist.net/homerecordings/

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.enemieslist.net/homerecordings/?page_id=2

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Every time I see or hear the words 'chicken cottage' in tandem I think of a public toilet full of teenaged rent boys. The chickens, doggie style logo does not exactly help here. I have said so before...

suzy, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Death of Marat, the cover, isn't it?

Pashmina, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Does not display for me, whatever it is.

Ohmigod, I actually managed to waste a whole hour cleaning out my inbox on OKCupid. I forgot I even had a profile.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

It's http://www.enemieslist.net/cr.jpg
http://www.enemieslist.net/dccover.gif
HAVE A NICE LIFE - “Deathconsciousness”
el01 - 10$ + shipping (2.50$ US, 4.50 CAN, 9.00 Everywhere Else). Run of only 200.

“Contextually awe-inspiring…a lo-fi masterpiece.” - sputnikmusic

The debut double-record from Connecticut’s HAVE A NICE LIFE. Shoegaze, drone, and New Wave combine to create what has been already been called one of the best records of 2008. For fans of MY BLOODY VALENTINE, ALCEST, SWANS, THE CURE.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link

There's even a thread on them have a nice life -- who the fuck are these guys?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

WHAT IS DEATHCONSCIOUSNESS?

Deathconsciousness refers to three things:

It refers to the debut double album from HAVE A NICE LIFE, featuring over 4 years and 2 hours worth of recorded material. All songs have been re-recorded, remixed, and remastered, including the songs from our demo release, Powers of Ten.

It refers to the short book of the same name that accompanies the record. Over 80 pages in length, written by a University of Massachusetts History professor, this book explores the deep religious symbology we used for inspiration while writing the record. The songs contain elaborate references to 12th century apostasies; the book will help those without a background in religious history to understand their meanings.

And, finally, Deathconsciousness is the concept that lies at the heart of the record itself: the overwhelming awareness, at all times, of death and it's proximity.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, that sleeve's a bit meh

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

They sound like something I'd hate. It's actually got to the point where anyone who starts talking about how "shoegaze" they are... I don't like them. And I'm sick to the back teeth of metal.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh well I guess you wont be wanting a cdr of that then.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm sorry, I'm just really not in a mood to be listening to new music at the moment. I'm feeling pretty down on everything.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:02 (sixteen years ago) link

It's actually got to the point where anyone who starts talking about how "shoegaze" they are... I don't like them. And I'm sick to the back teeth of metal.

That's exactly what happened with "krautrock"... also metal = bollocks, for the most part

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.myspace.com/haveanicelife for anyone who wants a taster

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I suppose this is what happens when a genre becomes a bit trendy. It's not even so much bandwaggon jumpers as people who just namedrop whatever's trendy.

Or else they listen to said genre, take whatever is most immediately obvious about whatever it is, and don't actually fulfill what it is that you actually like about the original genre in the first place.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Yep

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I shoegaze trendy? I never got that memo.

Ed, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

You got it around the time you attended that Seven Dwarves gig! Were you not paying attention?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link

"I Shoegaze Trendy" - mind if I file that away in my 'possible album title' folder?

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link

(The problem is, a lot of people seem to be either discovering shoegaze through, or thinking that shoegaze = the Brian Jonestown Massacre. A band who haven't been shoegaze in any sense since 1995.)

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I was distracted by hot keyboardist from holy rollers.

Ed, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link

It's an anagram of:

Heady Stereo Zing

xpost

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Wrong gig! That was Freelovebabies! The Seven Dwarves were playing with Kontakte and I didn't think you find any of them hott!

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Then you get old fans getting uppity about people discovering their music ;)

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

aha, I had driven from Belgium to be there and was a little spaced out.

Ed, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

j/k btw
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Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Look, if people would discover and be "influenced by" stuff like Medicine, SeeFeel, the Pale Saints, Lush even... fine! But they go and listen to one Ride album and one MBV album and then go about making boring floppy music for boring floppy people. If I see one more picture of four white blokes standing in a field looking a bit moody I'm gonna hurl. Not to name names or anything, but a band a couple of my mates have been trying to get me to listen to, but then I go and look at their MySpace and there's a picture of this:

http://a632.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/82/l_228758998cc0d89c774d013d25e057d7.jpg

...and I just think... my god, how boring.

I mean, maybe just maybe I might give them a chance if any of them were hott. But no! Just boring looking.

Yeah, I know, you can't judge a book by its cover. But you CAN judge a band by their promo photos.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

They want to be coldplay.

Ed, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

The have a nice life tracks i just listened to on the interweb are pretty tedious TBH. The vocals are somewhat vaguely pale-saints-ish I guess, but there were no good tunes, and they didn't rock. Baffled by the props this band are getting.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm going to see some youngish band at the Head of Steam, which Kate might remember, having played there, who bill themselves as "progressive rock"! We shall see...

Pashmina, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

The vocals are somewhat vaguely pale-saints-ish I guess

Ha ha, it's the hard sell. This quote must be used in their promo literature!

Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember the Head of Steam! That's where I first played the Prunes and Custard! That was a fun night.

I went and had loads of Dahi Puris last night. Oh god, the taste bombs. In the future, I am not going to bother ordering mains, I'm just going to order 3 courses of Dahi Puris and eat them all night.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 09:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Dahi Puris! without me! ;-)

Are we going to see Rocktor C on friday? want to get food beforehand?

Ed, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 09:43 (sixteen years ago) link

One of the bands was great, and somewhat crimsonesque, one was, I guess "good at what they did" but not to my taste, somewhat like that vampire whatsisname band that there's a thread about on ilm. headline band was mostly great with a few sketchy bits here & theer. I bought their EPs! They're, uh, OK. They were all really good at playing, no shitty, slack drummers. They were all so young, though! It felt a bit uncomfortable, me & mark were probably twice as old as the next oldest people there. Downsides were that all the bands could learn the difference between singing and bellowing, and it was a bit male. The promoter was a young woman, all the band members were male. I guess Muse and The Mars Volta are to blame for this kind of band being out there & playing & all that.

Pashmina, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 09:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Bah, there is no branch of my bank anywhere near work and I have a cheque to pay in.

Ed, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 09:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry! it was a girly conference or I would have invited you along. I got lots of good gossip about the psych/shoegaze scene. We can have Dahi Puris, um, soon. I don't know what I'm doing on Friday yet. Depends on how exhausted I am.

I don't understand that - female promoter, all male bands. But hey. Not saying women have a responsibility to promote other women, but you'd think they'd at least be aware of it or something.

There are no banks at all in Mitcham! People would rob them.

My brother just uploaded a whole bunch of family photos to his flickr. Wow. I'm very tempted to post some of the more... colourful ones. There's one ancient Gordon you would really like, Pash. She looks like an extra from a DW Griffiths film!

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 10:01 (sixteen years ago) link

My great-grandfather. He may looks a bit disreputable, doesn't he?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/2327928589_56021c0785.jpg

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 10:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I have settled on Nationwide as my new bak as they do have a branch in Mitchan, although the Morden one is slightly closer and there are a couple on high holborn.

Ed, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 10:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Polling station was deserted - of voters that is. Was greeted by the polling station staff like the return of the prodigal son, I thought they were going to offer me a cup of tea and a slice of cake

Tom D., Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm going after work. I did finally get my polling card a couple of days ago.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Is that a recent thing? My dad always had to do that - i.e. sit in a Labour rosette at the polling station. x-post

I am quite glad that I pitched a fit. It really is worth doing sometimes. It's quite a hard trick to get right. To make it clear that you *will* lose your temper and Cause A Scene if the jobsworthy does not do what he ought, while not actually losing your temper enough to be removed.

I was so angry that I ended up voting Green all the way through, simply wanting to get the smug (and proved now to be incompetent) Lib Dems out of my ward.

And now this is what I got up to last night. I'm really not sure what it's about, but it's quite filthy. Tra la la. 'Duke has put my portrait on his MySpace. Tee hee.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/21171554@N00/2456742702/"; title="demi-vierge kind of life by Masonic Boom, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/2456742702_ee8605b4ea_o.jpg"; width="433" height="600" alt="demi-vierge kind of life" /></a>

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, blast! Here are those nipples:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/2456742702_ee8605b4ea_o.jpg

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Did KL get your second pref for Mayor?

Ed, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes. I had to check it three times, because my hand kept twitching in this insane manner towards Boris, but I made sure to put the tick in the right - i.e. Labour box.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Whew!

G00blar, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i think it was more the way he was positioned behind a desk that he looked at first like the ballot officials. He wanted my poll card number and I certainly wasn't going to give it to him.

Ed, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Fucking hell, deluge in CR4.

Ed, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:43 (fifteen years ago) link

WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK I'M VOTING FOR BORIS?!?!? HAS HELL FROZEN OVER?!?!?

OK, hail in Croydon perhaps, which means it's heading our way. Blast, I was going to go to Wimbledon to buy candles. I always need candles for sketching - a trait I've discovered I share with my hero, Aubrey Beardsley!

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Will vote tonight when I get home from work. I love polling days - our ballot station is in the church hall at the end of the road, and they wheel out the same battered signs and ballot boxes that must have been in service since the war. I always half expect to have to choose between Atlee and Churchill.

Dr.C, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Our polling station is in the Library, and they're very brisk and modern. I would be afraid to vote Conservative in there.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I am trying to get Marmaduke back for another session. This time in costume. Since he claims to be descended from a philandering Sea Captain... well!

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 1 May 2008 11:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I love polling day too, and I'm slightly disappointed that I don't get a vote this time around. No seats in our ward are up for election.

Forest Pines Mk2, Thursday, 1 May 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.blastfirstpetite.com/

ADVANCE ORDERS TAKEN. £35 with orders despatched 19th May 2008
In stores 16th June 2008

Limited edition of 3000, x 6 CD set of high quality "audio verite" recordings of Suicide playing live in September 1977 to August 1978 ! As you will hear, a crucial year in Suicide's development and their mission to stretch the label of Punk Rock to the very limit.
Plus a 64 page booklet of Suicide & Red Star Records memorabilia from the personal archives of Howard Thompson, the A&R man that signed Suicide to UK Bronze Records.
Only the infamous "23 Minutes Over Brussels" has been released before !!
All mastered by Denis Blackham for optimum listening pleasure.

DISC 1 1977 NYC [46:52]
1 SUICIDE CBGB Sept 29 1977 24:43
2 SUICIDE CBGB Dec 3 1977 set2 22:09

DISC 2 1978 NYC [71:21]
1 SUICIDE The Palladium NYC Jan 7 1978 21:45
2 SUICIDE Maxs Jan 13 1978 22:55
3 SUICIDE CBGB Feb 3 1978 26:41

DISC 3 1978 BELGIUM/FRANCE [70:42]
1 SUICIDE Brussels June 16 1978 23:44
2 SUICIDE Paris Olympia+Backstage June 18 1978 46:58

DISC 4 1978 GERMANY [68:29]
1 SUICIDE Hamburg Audiomax June 28 1978 21:26
2 SUICIDE Berlin Kant Kino/Neue Welt June 30 1978 22:42
3 SUICIDE Berlin Kant Kino/Neue Welt June 30 1978 set2 24:21

DISC 5 1978 UK [64:17]
1 SUICIDE London MusicMachine July 24 1978 25:37
2 SUICIDE Our Price Radio Ad 1:09
3 SUICIDE Erics Liverpool July 29 1978 31:12
4 SUICIDE Erics pt 2 Frankie Teardrop July 29 1978 6:19

DISC 6 1978 NYC [AFTER EUROPE] [43:35]

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Christ, that must be hard going. Bits of the first 2 albums are OK, but all the live stuff I've heard has been unendurable!

Dr.C, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:26 (fifteen years ago) link

If I had the cash I'd buy it.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

My ears, my ears! I do love them, but live... um, no.

God, are the election results going to be as depressing as they look like they will be? I said I'd put my house on the market and move if Boris got in. Am I going to have to put my mortgage where my mouth is?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:35 (fifteen years ago) link

But the live stuff with the reissue of the first album was great (not the Live In Brussels stuff)

Tom D., Friday, 2 May 2008 09:38 (fifteen years ago) link

The 'Duke has not responded to my email asking him to come in for another session, so I guess that's the end of that. :-(

Stupid models, why are they so flighty?

Where can I find a man who will just come in, take his clothes off, do what he's told, and then come back when I need to do a sketch?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 2 May 2008 09:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Bloody computer just crashed. I hate web cafes. I was in such a good mood, where did it go? Life is always good until the invariable disappointment comes. I've got to go to a wedding this afternoon. Back to Brixton Town Hall again. I wonder if the registry office will be as disorganised.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah well, at least I found Blue Flower on YouTube. (Pale Saints version, which is, I think my favourite.)

Masonic Boom, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Today is just going to be depressing, isn't it? Oh, sod the load of this.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 2 May 2008 10:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Depressing. I am very glad that Kaet went sensible about Boris as soon as he started actually being political, as I am at least thankful that (*fingers crossed*) I don't know anyone who voted for him. I do feel slightly hypocritical about the rest of the country, as I really hate the New Labour government... but I am actually starting to feel sick to my stomach...

emil.y, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link

In the interests of "change", "entertainment" or whatever, a bunch of people just landed everyone in London with the conservative equivalent of derek hatton for the next 4 years. WTG, idiots, bah. What a depressing day for the UK.

Pashmina, Friday, 2 May 2008 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Asda are bringing back ltd edition Opal Fruits but only for a few weeks

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 2 May 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

So in the interests of trying to divert my attention from the horrors of the mayoral election, I have found a blog with what purports to be the entire Derek Bailey discography. Anyone have any recommendations where to start with this?

Colonel Poo, Friday, 2 May 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Ask Tom D, he once had a letter in The Wire about him!

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 2 May 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe everyones away to Asda now.

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 2 May 2008 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Opal Fruits or no Opal Fruits, Asda are still evil.

Forest Pines Mk2, Friday, 2 May 2008 15:56 (fifteen years ago) link

From now on, I am just going to pretend that the Japanese Noise Metal band are running London.

Meet the new Mayor:

http://thephoenix.com/onthedownload/content/binary/boris%2007%201.jpg

Masonic Boom, Saturday, 3 May 2008 09:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I used to have no boys to draw, now I have entirely too many! I'm drawing the pretty guitarist from Youthmovies tonight! Life is good.

Is it time for a new 'Cooler, or is there just not enough traffic any more?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I say go for it.

Any luck with the head hunters?

Ed, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Thirty Three? and a third?

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link

No luck with headhunters. :-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, new thread time.

emil.y, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:52 (fifteen years ago) link

bah well at least the weather is nice. I am going to go an eat my cuban sandwich in morden hall park.

Ed, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 11:52 (fifteen years ago) link


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