WTF?: "Seinfeld"'s Michael 'Kramer' Richards in Weird-o-Rama Onstage Meltdown

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It's definitely him; there have been several local L.A. news reports about it, and about how he was co-headlining with a very freaked-out Paul Rodriguez.

YouTube link, in case the TMZ video player farts out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UomfLKQr57U

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, ha - I just noticed the Posted at 9:02AM on Nov 20th 2006 by Michael Richards joke there...

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

The comments on these video threads are just absolutely insane.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:05 (seventeen years ago) link

On YouTube and TMZ obv.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Which is a shame because it's impossible to logically draw the conclusion that he's a racist from the incomplete and edited piece of tape that only runs two-and-a-half minutes

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

soulsimplistic (36 minutes ago)
Sad. Dude is obviously going through something in his life, and like "most people" feels compelled to rip into others, and attempt to exploit thier pain to offset his own. In this case, it was kinda like Lennie in the story "Of mice and men", when he was trying to handle the rabbit (his career), and strangled it to death.
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What on earth does this mean?

Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

The use of the N-word is obv. inexcusable, but I do agree with that columnist that we're missing a lot of the context here.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

seems to start off as just using the word for pure shock (many people in the audience roffling pretty hard as if they get this) but way OTT and when he uses it again after the heckler calls him cracker in retaliation it all goes v scary. it's that follow-up abuse rather than the initial outburst that seems more damning.

2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link

there is no context for this. dude's a fucking monster. xpost

^@^ (map), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Or maybe I just don't like the idea of branding people with a capital R.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

seems more like he used the word and then went for the "FUCKIN EDGY" thing as soon as he realized what he was doing.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think there is a "context" that would excuse references to lynching audience members??? That's just me, though.

Allyzay Eisenschefter (allyzay), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I notice none of these "oh the other guy said cracker, people, where is the outrage" focus on this choice bit: "The camera started rolling just as Richards began his attack, screaming at one of the men, "Fifty years ago we'd have you upside down with a f***ing fork up your ass.""

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link

anyway, he's not necessarily a racist, he could just be a giant, stupid asshole.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

"this guy's going nuts"

geoff (gcannon), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Ally OTM. I mean come on, the guy is heckling, gosh ask him to leave and then you get into it okay, but that line isn't okay in any context.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, the lynching thing is disgusting.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link

"you're not funny. that's why you're a reject. never had no shows, never had no movies. seinfeld, that it."

geoff (gcannon), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:15 (seventeen years ago) link


anyway, he's not necessarily a racist, he could just be a giant, stupid asshole.

I'm going to go with 'he is racist'

I mean, plenty of contexts in which you can say, "OK, he has some prejudiced mentality but i wouldn't go so far as to say RACIST" or something like that. But this is pretty much definitive

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:16 (seventeen years ago) link

any comedian worth shit has a whole toolbox of heckler kills to use. plus if you're making ppl laugh u don't get heckled amirite.

geoff (gcannon), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

The "fork in your ass" part is what bothers me most. He seems to be speaking wistfully of the halcyon days of overt white supremacy when a black man could be lynched for heckling a white comedian.

xpost - Ally, John, et al OTM

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"you're not funny. that's why you're a reject. never had no shows, never had no movies. seinfeld, that it."

richards IS totally pwned here. i do wonder what the guy's original heckles were because this is pretty hard to beat.

2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I saw some movie he was in, that involved a trial, but i can't remember it for the life of me.

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:19 (seventeen years ago) link

from the mel gibson thread:

"I acted like a person completely out of control when I was arrested, and said things that I do not believe to be true"

I myself when arrested carry on about the sun revolving around the earth.

-- Beth Parker (marthasminion...) (webmail), July 31st, 2006 8:16 AM. (Beth Parker) (link)

^@^ (map), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah the 50 years ago hanging from a tree thing is the worst part

Smegma Pi (plsmith), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link

richards IS totally pwned here. i do wonder what the guy's original heckles were because this is pretty hard to beat.

i liked him on fridays

the car, the hole, and the peekskill meteorite (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link

What on earth does this mean?

I don't know but I'm laughing anyway.

I am also laughing at anyone who thinks there's mitigating context to this nonsense.

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

clearly he's attempting to revive his career by copying the Borat formula

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:23 (seventeen years ago) link

he's reflecting the racist that lies inside ALL OF US, don't you see!!!!!!!!!

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:24 (seventeen years ago) link

ARGH:

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/83-11202006-744776.html

^@^ (map), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

He IS making me recognize how many people are racist morons, but i'm not really laughing.

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

perhaps this wasn't richards at all but dr. martin van nostrum

parsley, sage francis, rosemary, and thyme (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Later Richards told CNN, off camera, that he had ‘made amends’ for his outburst, but refused to give details.

maybe he stuck a fork up his own ass?

Pitts, who was not one of the hecklers, added: ‘He didn’t say sorry to me. He offended everyone in the room that night. He needs to make a public apology.’

Comic Paul Rodriguez, who was also on the bill, added: ‘Once the word nigger comes out of your mouth, you have a whole lot of explaining to do.’

Richards, was back on the Laugh Factory stage on Saturday night.

2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Like I said, I don't think the context excuses the racism, I just don't like the way a two-minute video clip automatically prompts everyone to brand him a RACIST, end of story. Then again, I don't think that sucking dick makes a dude gay, so I think I'm just anti-essentialist when it comes to shit like this. What he DID was definitely racist.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Comic Paul Rodriguez, who was also on the bill, added: ‘Once the word nigger comes out of your mouth, you have a whole lot of explaining to do.’

haha, Rodriguez then realised his mistake and proceeded to do a whole lot of explaining himself.

2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

uh

xpost

parsley, sage francis, rosemary, and thyme (dubplatestyle), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

"you're not funny. that's why you're a reject. never had no shows, never had no movies. seinfeld, that it."
richards IS totally pwned here. i do wonder what the guy's original heckles were because this is pretty hard to beat.

-- 2 american 4 u (n...), November 20th, 2006.

I'm gonna go ahead and disagree there. Although I think it was a combo of writing and the entire cast that made the show so successful, I think the Kramer character was near or at the top for ability to make people laugh. Being typecast because you played a certain character so well doesn't mean you are an 'unfunny' comedian.

Asshole racist? Evidently. Not funny outside of that hateful context? No.

shorty (shorty), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

perhaps this wasn't richards at all but dr. martin van nostrum

no, this is obviously the work of H.E. Pennypacker

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

john, you're nuts

deej.. (deej..), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i was quoting from chortle.co.uk article just fyi

2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

The picture with that article DEFEINITELY made me chortle!

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think jaymc is necessarily wrong, there's something to be said for witholding judgement, but:

Or maybe I just don't like the idea of branding people with a capital R. = Or maybe I just don't like the idea of branding people with a capital N.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

"Just because he murdered someone doesn't mean he's necessarily a murderer."

WTF to that logic?

jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

more random comments fun (on usa today article):
I think the hecklers got what they deserved. I saw one of them in an interview and he was trying to come off so innocent like he couldn’t do any wrong. He kept going on about an apology and how much it hurt him. I'm surprised he didn’t ask for reparations.
Posted by: Rob N DC | Nov 20, 2006 12:38:36 PM

2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

jaymcs right maybe he's just bipredjudicial

anticon jemima (ooo), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I think what he meant to say was, "Keep acting like that, asshole. That's why people are racist." But, it came out, "Look! There's a nigger! A nigger!"

Bobby Ganush (Uri Frendimein), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

any guesses as to how NYPost handles this one?

KKKramer!!!!

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

or kkkurious

xpost

^@^ (map), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I was wondering today what Michael Richards might be up to...any recent news?

Joe, Thursday, 7 June 2007 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.allaahuakbar.net/image/christian_shias.jpg

marmotwolof, Thursday, 7 June 2007 20:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the guy with his hands behind his back. "Ho-hum"...

Joe, Thursday, 7 June 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.pajiba.com/images/richards.jpg

kenan, Thursday, 7 June 2007 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Hangin' around with Swami G.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 July 2007 06:16 (sixteen years ago) link

"That night, when I was insulted and disrupted"

wtf Any middle school vice principal knows that "He Pushed Me First" is a lame-ass excuse. Fuck you, Mr. Richards. Some degreee of penitence is in order here, if not self-flagellation.

kenan, Thursday, 12 July 2007 06:29 (sixteen years ago) link

whose career nosedived

I guess it's all relative.

marmotwolof, Thursday, 12 July 2007 06:30 (sixteen years ago) link

it's incredible. HE STILL DOESN'T GET IT.

kenan, Thursday, 12 July 2007 06:31 (sixteen years ago) link

At this point he should just do a world tour of the act that made him infamous, and use this link for customized material.

marmotwolof, Thursday, 12 July 2007 06:39 (sixteen years ago) link

whose career nosedived

Uh yes, after Seinfeld.

nathalie, Thursday, 12 July 2007 07:11 (sixteen years ago) link

exactly

marmotwolof, Thursday, 12 July 2007 07:13 (sixteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

hahahahahahaha this thread

HI DERE, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 03:29 (sixteen years ago) link

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QHcD1yydLgw

bug, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 03:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Here is the YSI for the (ridiculously out of print) Dick Davy record I mentioned upthread. It's all one file, about 40 minutes/38 minutes.

-- nate p. (natepatrin), Monday, November 20, 2006 10:54 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

repost plz

deej, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 05:44 (sixteen years ago) link

woooooooow 1622 posts

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 18 March 2008 05:46 (sixteen years ago) link

three months pass...

you know what's funny? i was all like: where's that long-ass thread about don imus? but it wasn't about don imus at all. i forgot all about kramerface.

scott seward, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 02:09 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm white btw

jeff, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

ANNOUNCER: Defensive back Adams "Pacman" Jones, recently signed by the Cowboys, here's a guy suspended all of 2007, following a shooting in a Vegas nightclub.

IMUS: Well, stuff happens. You're in a nightclub, for God's sake. What do you think is gonna happen in a nightclub. People are drinking, and doing drugs. There are women there and people have guns. So there, go ahead.

ANNOUNCER: Also, he's been arrested six times since being drafted by Tennessee in 2005.

IMUS: What color is he?

ANNOUNCER: He's African American.

IMUS: Ha ha, well there you go, now we know.

Savannah Smiles, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 10:00 (fifteen years ago) link

jokes bruv

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 10:02 (fifteen years ago) link

this is the thread that sent us into the sandbox wilderness

gr8080, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I hate Imus, but totally think that he was aiming for "African-Americans get targeted by the police more often than whites" line.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

it's more confusing than anything else

n/a, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I hate Imus, but totally think that he was aiming for "African-Americans get targeted by the police more often than whites" line.

I think he probably was too, but he should have actually gotten around to saying so. Like, on the air.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah thats the crux of it - i think he was, but i also think he was aware that this was gonna be controversial

deeznuts, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm surprised people can stay awake long enough to hear anything Imus says.

bnw, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

It was a bit too ambiguous, especially coming from a guy who's made racially stupid comments before.

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha ha, well there you go, now we know.

jeff, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Saw Michael Richards at Bergamot Station today. When a friend asked me what he was like, or how strangers act around him, I said it's like bumping into Cain from the Bible. It's very odd.

Cunga, Sunday, 7 March 2010 07:47 (fourteen years ago) link

wow major lols at the nude spock idiocy "omg cracker=just as offensive". can't believe i missed this the first time

Ballistic, Sunday, 7 March 2010 08:56 (fourteen years ago) link

(ok tying into weird white paranoia ade or nabisco - i get em confused - were mentioning above) there's this one highway exit near auburn alabama that pretty much from what i can tell all ga bulldogs fans are gonna hit anytime the auburn-ga game is there (context), one of the last exits before you're back in ga. i'm driving back thru alabama late one night and i stop at this exit for gas and to use the john and inside the restroom is just an insane amount of lengthy detailed like unabomber manifesto level stuff from different people or pens at least about how 1) blacks run alabama (different term than 'blacks' used obv) 2) blacks have it so easy in alabama and get away with stuff that liberals won't let whites get away 3) and this is why alabama isn't better off. it was damn near a detailed position paper on pro-segregation, anti-affirmative action, o if only whites had the same rights that blacks take for granted, and how come they get to use the n word btw. literally four walls covered with the stuff. and then, the saving grace that saved me from being merely repulsed/terrified by it and amplified how happy i was gonna be to be back in ga (where of course we don't have racism lol), written above this mess above the toilet oblivious of the surrounding white rage: "GO DAWGS!!!"

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, November 21, 2006 1:27 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

some dude, Sunday, 7 March 2010 11:57 (fourteen years ago) link

haha

T-R-A-P-S-T-R (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 8 March 2010 04:08 (fourteen years ago) link

cankles [.]

velko, Monday, 8 March 2010 04:10 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

Gays are discriminated against the most as of 2007, obviously. Racism will more than likely cease to exist in 50 years. Anyone who morphs the issues around their own personal agendas should blow their own brains out.

― billstevejim, Friday, April 13, 2007 1:57 PM bookmarkflaglink

this hasn't aged particularly well

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

I can understand why YouTube comments threads would have people arguing about this, since YouTube comments threads seem to be populated exclusively by repulsive morons; I'm having a little bit of trouble figuring out why ILX would have to argue anything out about this.

P.S. I am really sick of people who are all like "black people call each other nigger all the time" -- this is a severely fucked-up perception based on people getting their information on What Black People Do All the Time pretty much solely from hip-hop videos and The Wire and shit, and I seriously wonder if people who say that honestly believe that the middle-aged woman in the next cubicle at work seriously goes home to her kids and says "what's up, my niggas, we're having Applebee's tonight!"

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, November 20, 2006 4:09 PM bookmarkflaglink

conversely, this has aged like fine wine

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link

Quite the time capsule, this.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link

I sometimes think about this incident as something of a watershed moment, since it took place in 2006, right between the launches of YouTube and the iPhone. Only a few years earlier, and the video wouldn't have made its way to the Internet so quickly and been watched so easily.

I also remember my reaction on this thread, which I'm not proud of now. I was very bothered by the fact that people were so quick to call Richards a racist based entirely on the video. In my mind, it was an argument against essentialism (is he "really" a racist, or did he just do a racist thing?) -- but it ultimately amounted to a defense of Richards that I shouldn't have been so invested in, with the privilege of viewing such incidents from a purely academic perspective.

jaymc, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 22:43 (three years ago) link

i know no one knew what racism was in 2006 or whatever but fucking hell

Is your experience so limited that you've never seen non-racist people behave this way? I know a guy from Texas...he will say some of the most racial shit you ever heard right to a black man's face...He's a blues musician...that doesn't stop him from making chicken jokes...

new display name (Left), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 23:07 (three years ago) link

yeah, that was called out in 2006 and isn't really in the spirit of the revive

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 8 April 2021 04:11 (three years ago) link


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