Little Boots - "Stuck on Repeat"

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i heard that & it just made me go <3 <3 <3 if she did, then i totally wanna marry her

Karen Tregaskin, Monday, 14 December 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

last i saw re laser harp was her asking someone else to help her build one. that was part 1 of the video.

part 2 has just been posted, am watching it now...

koogs, Monday, 14 December 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

boots soldering
http://www.koogy.clara.co.uk/boots1.jpg

working prototype
http://www.koogy.clara.co.uk/boots2.jpg

it does still look like something someone has knocked up in their shed, because it was. still the electronics are there.

koogs, Monday, 14 December 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

omg girls soldering = just about the hottest thing i've ever seen in my life

jean-michelle jarre's just looks better coz the lasers come out in a fan, which is more aesthetically pleasing but probably harder to build

Karen Tregaskin, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Solder is pretty hot, yeah.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Monday, 14 December 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

i can think of hotter

little boots. soldering. on a desert island. a volcanic desert island. during a heat wave

Karen Tregaskin, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Slathered in gravy.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Monday, 14 December 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

now now, we wouldn't want to objectify the highly talented young songwriter, would we?

Karen Tregaskin, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link

those do come out in a fan, albeit one with only a few spokes. and they aren't frickin lasers as far as i can tell, just bright lights with gels on them to change the colours (but that also makes them dimmer, as does the smoke). the sounds it generates are ok although we didn't get to hear anything approaching a tune.

jarre's only appears to have 9 beams: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_harp

koogs, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

why 9? surely it should be either 8 or 12 to be sufficient for an octave's worth of notes? unless jarre is playing some odd nonagonic scale i'm not familiar with

Karen Tregaskin, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link

laser harps tend to come in two forms - one where which beam you break determines the note and one where the position of the hand determines the note (more like a theremin than a harp really).

(although why you'd need more than two beams for the latter style is beyond me. unless different beams trigger different instruments, or different ranges of notes.)

koogs, Monday, 14 December 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

the guy who invented Jarre's laser harp (and also Carl Craig's fave ever album) emailed me once after I'd mentioned it online to say "The future is already now, of course... And the laser harp, this visual lure just good enough for JMJ, who cares ?", so watch out.

Disco Stfu (Raw Patrick), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

film of the collaboration with gary numan is playing behind the red button on bbc1 tonight (45 minutes, interspersed with la rue and heaven 17). the version of 'are "friends" electric' is stunning. victoria's obviously loving the whole thing. numan's currently reading the stuck on repeat lyrics from a piece of paper...

laser harp parts 3 and 4 were disappointing.

koogs, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Just discovered Little Boots through looking at electropop singles lists from previous years at RYM. Sounds really great.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Stuck on Repeat was a great single but the album is quite dull. I remember thinking she was going to be in the same league as Annie or Robyn but she really isn't.

Not even Phill Oakey could make the album exciting.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah she really underachieved. She has cancelled a lot of gigs lately, which I'm guessing at tickets not selling. It's a real shame as she has good songs, seems a nice person but clearly not cut out for the kind of BIG POP career role her label tried to cram her into. (Terrible memories of her being sat on some breakfast TV show, playing her tenori-thing while the hosts sniggered at her).

s.rose, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought the album did pretty well overall, in the end?

She should have gone further down the Hot Chip with added cosmic disco path that the first couple of singles suggested. I found the album very enjoyable and quite sweet in its way but not exactly bursting with character a lot of the time. Better than anything Annie has churned out in several years, mind.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm really surprised they didn't put out Stuck On Repeat again after the album came out. I think if a re-release of that had followed Remedy she would have quite a bit more success.

The album sounded really flat but I hope she can do something else a bit more interesting if she gets a second album, as you say she seemed really nice. She had a lot of potential and I would still would rather listen to her album over the La Roux one anyday.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I was under the impression her album sales were less than expected? Considering all the ads and posters - never seen as much for any other new act before - only reaching the top 5 must have been a disappointment for her label.

Totally agree about Stuck On Repeat - would have been a great ballsy move to put out something so great and different sounding to everything else out there. Rather than sticking her with bigname US producers who didn't really suit what she was about.

Her and Annie are quite similar really, in that neither really followed up on their brilliant first few tracks but I have more time for Annie in that her low sales weren't quite as screamingly visible as Little Boots. Both Annie's last album (her debut is still a classic) and LB's debut suffer from a handful of ok songs and a lot of filler though. It'll be interesting to see what they do next, isn't Annie working with Xenomania?

s.rose, Wednesday, 2 June 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

never seen as much for any other new act before

really? not even Adele, Duffy, Ellie Goulding and others who actually got instant top 3 hits by being more MOR/less electronic? can't say i had that experience.

SOR (not really that different to anything else out there just a better version of it) wouldn't have been a hit/done as well as Earthquake but also Kurstin and RedOne ended up suiting her as much as anyone really esp. the latter - Remedy remains one of his better productions and I'm glad it was an actual hit.

Annie worked with Xenomania extensively for Don't Stop but some of the tracks got canned by the time that album eventually came out. I still rate it a bit above Hands tho.

mdskltr (blueski), Wednesday, 2 June 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

What else in the charts last year sounded like Stuck On Repeat?

Adele & Duffy are much more 'straight pop' (as opposed to coming from the clubby electro scene), geared towards mums and everymans so if they had as big a promotional campaign it wasn't as notable to me as LB's.

Kurstin/RedOne gave LB a more Americanised R&B sound, watered down her strident Moroder sound and made her sound like a really weedy Lady Gaga - which didn't suit LB at all. Remedy wasn't bad - would probably have been better done by a dozen other acts - but New In Town was awful, as were most of the Kurstin tracks.

s.rose, Thursday, 3 June 2010 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link

more time for Annie in that her low sales weren't quite as screamingly visible as Little Boots

25 Annie Chewing Gum Single Sep 2004

13 Little Boots New In Town Single Jun 2009
5 Little Boots Hands Album Jun 2009 Notes
6 Little Boots Remedy Single Aug 2009
25 Little Boots Hands (re-entrry) Album Aug 2009 Notes

That'll be why...

Mark G, Thursday, 3 June 2010 10:06 (thirteen years ago) link

When the album stiffed (at least compared to high expectations) someone from a label who tried and failed to sign her sneeringly called her Lead Boots. Hell hath no schadenfreude like an A&R man spurned.

Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 3 June 2010 10:32 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Yeah I phrased that badly, I meant more that Annie wasn't being pegged as the new chart-popping sensation in our lives (ie. she wasn't on the front cover of the Guardian magazine, voted BBC Sound of 2009 etc) so her failure to go massive wasn't as shocking as LB's. I'm more thinking about Anniemal in 2004/5 as that album did seem like it'd go massive, by the time of Don't Stop it was kinda obvious she'd always be a cult pop act.

The weird thing I've noticed lately is that I'd still listen to Annie (seeing her as a kind of admirable failure) but with Little Boots it's more of an embarrassed can't-look-her-in-the-eye type feeling and I'd very rarely play her songs these days.

s.rose, Thursday, 3 June 2010 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel kind of sorry for Little Boots now. She seemed like probably the least objectionable of 2009's femmelectro crop (not too difficult compared to La Roux and Florence).

village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 3 June 2010 10:46 (thirteen years ago) link

my theory is that LB's career is basically a victim of that weird mentality of treating Pop as something w/a capital letter - that romanticised hankering for a Pop Star to be someone fabulous and ridiculous and omg, this will change your life!!!111

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 June 2010 10:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah she was clearly ill-at-ease in that role, but she's done well enough for them to give her a second album, be interesting to see what she does with it as she's got more potential than any of last year's fashionable 'women' things.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 June 2010 10:54 (thirteen years ago) link

she seemed to have gotten herself plugged into that weird cycle where everything seems dependent on playing the industry game, achieving certain chart positions too - pop fans tend to obsess over that side of things rather than the music, but focusing on that was never gonna pan out for little boots. as matt dc says she's essentially the solo female hot chip, and when you think about the idea of marketing hot chip from the off as Pop Stars who should be reaching no 1 and playing that game, then you see how ludicrous LB's positioning was.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 June 2010 10:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah she was clearly ill-at-ease in that role

it's not just whether she fit into that though, it's that the role itself is bullshit and no debut act should ever be marketed in that way - pop stars never start off in their imperial phase, and trying to manufacture one just doesn't cut it.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 June 2010 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I think it was more that at that time there was a multitude of new "Female Pop" acts, (Gaga, Laroux, Machine), and a large number of them since (Marina, Goulding, etc), that she's got trampled in the rush.

"Remedy" got as much play as "Pokerface" at the time, but one had a bunch more similar to come, and the other, um, didn't. (It pays to increase your headcount)

Mark G, Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:02 (thirteen years ago) link

lex OTM. It's the curse of the BBC Sound Of poll. Once you've topped that, like it or not, if you don't storm the charts you look like a failure. But the label played into that. The Estonian-Eurovision-entry awesomeness of Remedy notwithstanding, I thought it was a bad move to bring in Greg Kurstin and make everything sound so desperately pop when Stuck on Repeat seemed like a much more rewarding path. Difference between her and Hot Chip being looks, basically - nobody was going to package Alexis Taylor as the latest pop star. You could see LB trying really hard to establish her synth-geek credentials - "Look, I built this fucking instrument myself" - when most people were taking her for just a pretty face with some clever, quiet dude lurking in the background pressing the buttons.

Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I think she over-excited the press based on image - BBC SOund Of didn't help this as that's usually reserved for the acts the industry really throw weight behind (Adele, Duffy, Ellie...who must have all won some sort of Britskool-ran lottery or something).

but how is Lady Gaga not the epitomy of 'Pop as something w/a capital letter - that romanticised hankering for a Pop Star to be someone fabulous and ridiculous and omg, this will change your life!!!111' and she entered Imperial Phase within her first year. That's money tho.

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, that's what I meant by "Headcount"

Mark G, Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:08 (thirteen years ago) link

idk what you mean by headcount

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link

lady gaga kinda proves my point in that she very obviously grew into that role - very rapidly, but it's fundamentally about allowing people to make up their own minds about you

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Lady Gaga really appeals to people who grew up in the 80s and had a hankering for that big larger-than-life event-video Adam Ant style pop star though, and that was always due to make a comeback at some point.

Has Ellie Goulding been selling that well? I have no idea, she seems really easy to just overlook.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:11 (thirteen years ago) link

There's some mad hairsplitting going on here though given that Gaga was completely ubiquitous and rammed right down everyone's throats from day one. Much more than Little Boots or anyone else being discussed here. The difference is she suited the role.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Lady Gaga had more potential hits, more money, more ambition, more style - just more. She was a mainstream-ready personality from the get go. Little Boots is more in the lineage of, as people have said, Annie or Saint Etienne or any number of acts doing pop from a hipster/underground/indie angle. There's something about that aesthetic which is a tough sell, though not an impossible one.

Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:13 (thirteen years ago) link

That whole female pop thing was such a media/industry construct. Listeners didn't treat it as a genre or movement; you never heard any actual people saying "yeah, I'm really into all the new female electro acts". More often than not, it was about individual artists or stand-alone tracks. So yeah, I'd agree it was a case of a lot of deserving artists got drowned out over less deserving and overhyped ones.

village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think lady gaga is that relevant to this discussion though.

village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Gaga had instant success - so it seems many people had made their minds up about her instantly.

I never felt like LB was being really pushed at me more than SEB or whoever. at least the daytime TV appearances seemed to work in getting her a top 10 hit. i was surprised at how much exposure she got tho (starting with BBC Sound Of altho I can't remember who I expected to win that - not La Roux as I didn't think they'd cross over so well) as i never thought she'd do that well based on the music.

One thing that never came up, and maybe it's not an issue at all, is that LB didn't really dance in her videos. If you're a solo female act performing dancey pop tunes I can imagine the label having some reservations about this unfortunately.

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link

How did Ladyhawke fair in all of this? Being the other dorky/aspie one of the lot, that is?

village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Ladyhawke did quite well in the end but the buzz was a lot slower and more ground-up.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:33 (thirteen years ago) link

The sad thing is that I remember in her (premature) Guardian Weekend piece she was worried about getting too much attention too soon. And rightly so. The Ladyhawke route would have suited her much better.

Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:39 (thirteen years ago) link

but then she would only have sold as many records as Ladyhawke

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:41 (thirteen years ago) link

She's a lot better than Ladyhawke though.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 June 2010 11:46 (thirteen years ago) link

The above quote that she 'didn't fit the role' really rings true. She was never going to be a globe-stomping tabloid-friendly pop star and it was a mistake to shove her into the quick-returns industry cycle - has anyone other than Lady Gaga in the dancey-poppy field succeeded at this in the past few years?

I'm seeing a lot of parallels with the way Hurts are being marketed - thread here: Hurts - in that it feels very forced and micro-managed (heard some interesting tales from journalists/prs/agents who've dealt with their ultra heavy-handed team). It seems the Hurts blokes are more suited for mainstream fame than LB ever was but hitting only #50 with the first single proper suggests they're not connecting with the general pop-buying public.

s.rose, Thursday, 3 June 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

No-one likes to have that feeling of being force-fed.

Mark G, Thursday, 3 June 2010 14:02 (thirteen years ago) link

still haven't heard a note of Hurts

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 3 June 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost Yeah I phrased that badly, I meant more that Annie wasn't being pegged as the new chart-popping sensation in our lives (ie. she wasn't on the front cover of the Guardian magazine, voted BBC Sound of 2009 etc) so her failure to go massive wasn't as shocking as LB's. I'm more thinking about Anniemal in 2004/5 as that album did seem like it'd go massive, by the time of Don't Stop it was kinda obvious she'd always be a cult pop act.

I guess the Erot connection gives Annie some kind of "indie credibility" in some small but loud circles that other electropop acts cannot quite match.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Friday, 4 June 2010 08:57 (thirteen years ago) link


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