_Avatar_, directed by James Cameron

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^^^yep. see: GnR video

a triumph in high-tech nipple obfuscation (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 December 2009 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, but of all the films I mentioned, it was also the only sequel. And sequels, by definition, get hyped and anticipated. But c. that GNR video, no one knew T2 would change movies and make "morph" a household word.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 December 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i did! and i tried to tell everyone! and i got shoved into a toilet for my troubles....

that is a whole discussion within itself that is worth debating (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 December 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, I mean, I did, too, but I was under embargo at the time.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 December 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

T2 et al didn't have special effects in every single frame, though.

Action Orientation (Eazy), Friday, 11 December 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 December 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, those movies were absolutely packed with effects, regardless. Heck, half of "The Hangover" appears to have been shot against green screen. As far as all-effects arbiters go, "Phantom Menace" was all FX, all the time, and that was ten years ago.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 11 December 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

And Cameron and his artists succeed at the difficult challenge of making Neytiri a blue-skinned giantess with golden eyes and a long, supple tail, and yet--I'll be damned. Sexy.

krampus activities (latebloomer), Saturday, 12 December 2009 04:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Glenn Kenny

RIP Embargo I guess

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Saturday, 12 December 2009 13:45 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah all the cool kids are saying PWN.

Smokey and the S'Banned It (history mayne), Saturday, 12 December 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i think he's joking?

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Saturday, 12 December 2009 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link

feeling more and more like i'm gonna be a lonely voice in the wilderness on this one.

um, not that i'm expressing any of my reactions to this movie.

donde está mia farrow, fa la la la la, la la la la (s1ocki), Saturday, 12 December 2009 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Titanic was hailed by a huge number of critics as a masterpiece when it came out, and I'd like to see how many have changed their minds. I think people are just wrapped up in it. Or, more likely, once the embargo is officially lifted, there will be a healthy number of naysayers.

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Saturday, 12 December 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, it ain't the phantom menace, but this is getting ridiculous.

donde está mia farrow, fa la la la la, la la la la (s1ocki), Saturday, 12 December 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Cameron's Twitter is terrible. Decrying 'best of decade' lists before people have seen Avatar.

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Saturday, 12 December 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah even i think these initial reactions are kinda over the top, and i'm on board

paragon of incalescence (rrrobyn), Saturday, 12 December 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

never underestimate the super geekdom of film critics i guess

paragon of incalescence (rrrobyn), Saturday, 12 December 2009 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link

but damn if i'm not seeing this again asap

paragon of incalescence (rrrobyn), Saturday, 12 December 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i think these initial reactions are kinda over the top

Yeah, it makes the months of internet chucklehead snarking look sober by comparison. What am I saying, no it doesn't.

DavidM, Saturday, 12 December 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

i think the embargo is in place bcuz avatar marketing ppl will know that the only people to break the embargo are the people w/ positive reviews bcuz those people know they won't get bitchslapped in the future by said marketing team. therefore early word of mouf is all positive and momentum builds, etc...

someone up thread may have already suggested this.

Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 12 December 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

http://io9.com/5424663/the-public-explains-the-plot-of-james-camerons-avatar

StanM, Sunday, 13 December 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link

great punchline

adorable cheese inscription (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 13 December 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

So the embargo is lifted today, right? Can those who have seen it here give us their thoughts?

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

not till thursday im afraid

donde está mia farrow, fa la la la la, la la la la (s1ocki), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Gah. Thursday daytime is the only time I can go see it before next week. Can anyone at least signal whether I should bother to make the effort or just wait until next week?

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

interest for this film (712 posts) is as bemusing to me as the tiger woods story is confusing; shrug.gif

(9/9/8/9) (cozwn), Monday, 14 December 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Avatar is the corniest movie ever made about the white man’s need to lose his identity and assuage racial, political, sexual and historical guilt.

Only children—including adult-children—will see Avatar as simply an adventure film; their own love of technology has co-opted their ability to comprehend narrative detail. Cameron offers sci-fi dazzle, yet bungles the good part: the meaning. His undeniably pretty Pandora—a phosphorescent Maxfield Parrish paradise with bird-like lizards, moving plant life and floating mountains—distracts from the inherent contradiction of a reported $300-$500 million Hollywood enterprise that casually berates America’s industrial complex.

http://www.nypress.com/article-20710-blue-in-the-face.html

Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Leave it to Armond to attack this from the "boo white people abandoning their culture" angle

I am a big question mark (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Cameron emulates the boy-plus-car symbiosis of Transformers—but with pulsing loins, veins and orifices.

luv ya Armond don't ever change

Magnolia Caboose Babyfinger (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link

While technically impressive, Avatar’s basically a daft version of the Transformer movies’ sci-fi, techno fantasy.

I mean, this is way more of an indictment of the movie than the "contradiction" that his central thesis or the "white man's guilt" sidestep.

I am a big question mark (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

always lolsome when he brings out Transformers 2, but he's really upped the stakes with his 'Gamer is avant-garde' claims.

moron oil (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i feel free breaking the embargo to say that this movie is a shitty dumb piece of shit

max, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

nb i havent seen it

max, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Avatar, however, invents an alternate world to make the airy-fairy pronouncement: “There’s a network of energy that flows through all living things.” Alien-girl Neytiri (Zoe Saldana) teaches Sully how to bond with a tie-dyed, eagle-like creature by docking his wriggly tail into it.

wait, waht

I am a big question mark (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

no doubts now. seeing this on Thursday.

moron oil (Gukbe), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link

bond with a tie-dyed, eagle-like creature by docking his wriggly tail into it.

Cronenberg should've made this movie

Magnolia Caboose Babyfinger (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link

lololololololololol of course there's also a positive Joseph Conrad reference in there

I am a big question mark (HI DERE), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link

man the space ghost ad for this!

the terius of a goon (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

lol gawker w/the mea culpa http://gawker.com/5427160/apologia--avatar-amazingly-does-not-suck

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

btw was i the 1st on this to predict the awesomeness of avatar

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

you and i are now locked in an eternal death struggle over whether or not this movie is good

max, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i recommend that neither of us actually see it--that will be the best way to continue our blood feud

max, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

s1ocki's rapturously positive review is what will end up making me see this

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

wouldve thought youd already have yr imax tickets xp

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i object to this movie on moral grounds

max, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

"i, max object to this movie on moral grounds"

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Cameron's going to spend twenty more years making a film just to win you over and he's going to call it "2 THE MAX"

the terius of a goon (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link


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