“It’s even easier when you don’t care whom you kill.”
Doesn’t this passage look really odd? The one below looks better, IMO, but is the one above even acceptable?
“It’s even easier when you don’t care about whom you kill.”
― Jeb, Friday, 12 October 2007 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Eh, sentence, even.
"It's even easier when you don't care who you kill."
Fixed!
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 October 2007 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Isn't "caring about" ambiguous here, because it could mean not having feelings for the victim rather than not caring about their identity?
― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 13:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I think we're seeing a breakdown of the who/whom distinction. There are cases in which the use of 'whom', although tradionally correct, now looks a bit odd and you should use 'who' instead.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 12 October 2007 14:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Thanks. I found it in this Slate piece, which is why I was a bit puzzled. =)
― Jeb, Friday, 12 October 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link
― Jeb, Friday, 12 October 2007 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link
isn't "who you kill" a subject/predicate on its own? So who is acceptable over whom? It's been a while since I studied this stuff. I'm rusty and mostly operating by feel.
― Will M., Friday, 12 October 2007 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link
I think I only use "whom" when it's part of a prepositional phrase. "Around whom did you fanny" for instance.
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 October 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link
MS Office tells me this is wrong, is it?
"...this task could take an additional three or four man-hours to sort out..."
It says that I should delete the word "an." WTF?
― Will M., Friday, 12 October 2007 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link
MS Office is full of shit half of the time.
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 12 October 2007 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Man, just do CTRL-A, DELETE... problem solved.
― Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 12 October 2007 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link
WTF I JUST DID THAT YOU ASSHOLE
― Will M., Friday, 12 October 2007 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link
HOW DO I MAKE IT GO BACK OH GOD IT WAS 18 PAGES LONG
― Will M., Friday, 12 October 2007 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I GUESS THAT'S 3-4 LESS MAN-HOURS
Funny guy.
― Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 12 October 2007 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
"Treatment for asthma and pulmonary disease are not identical"
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link
the prob I see with using "treatments" is it no longer reads like a 1-to-1 comparison.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Add a "the" to the start?
― Alba, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd keep treatment singular, but add another 'for' for clarity: "Treatment for asthma and for pulmonary disease are not identical"
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:37 (sixteen years ago) link
The treatment (singular) sits clunkily with "are" though.
― ailsa, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link
"Treatment ... are"?
xpost
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm putting the s on in a query, ja
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 19 October 2007 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link
The treatment for asthma and that for pulmonary disease are not identical.
― jaymc, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link
I r a medical editor. Therefore you must do as I say and use 'The treatments.'
xpost jaymc I love you but that is horrible.
― quincie, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link
yes, esp as it also has to go in a callout.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link
wait asthma IS a pulmonary disease!
― quincie, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Sentence is too long. Consider simply going with "Fixin' lungs is tough."
― Will M., Friday, 19 October 2007 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Asthma is treated differently than other pulmonary diseases.
― quincie, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Well, if it were up to me, I'd probably use "treatments," but the good Dr. Morbius seemed like he wanted to avoid that.
― jaymc, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link
"The treatment for asthma is not identical to the treatment for pulmonary disease."
― s1ocki, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link
I shortened it, quincie; the other disease is actually COPD, but I didn't wnat to confuse the civilians...
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link
I dunno. "The love I have for Berlin and for Paris are quite different." You wouldn't want "loves" there, would you? The second love is simply understood without being written out.
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Asthma and COPD are treated differently.
― quincie, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link
DO I WIN OR WHAT?
no, I can't rewrite it that much. It's not my decision, I merely (feebly) suggest. Also the AMA stylebook NEVER has the example I'm looking for, ever!
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link
my mom works with COPD patients!
― s1ocki, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Zelda, that sentence is weird either way. That "are" is like a cyst on that sentence. Why wouldn't you say something like, "I love Berlin and Paris in different ways" or something? Also, active voice, because you're talking about yourself (not as easy with the COPD/Asthma sentence since the treater of diseases is mostly irrelevant to the sentence).
― Will M., Friday, 19 October 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link
what about my suggestion morbius
I have no power over what the Krell -- I mean, my editor -- will decide. I've added an "s" query and moved on.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link
I still think the original sentence with "treatments" instead of "treatment" doesn't read unclearly, btw, Morb.
― Will M., Friday, 19 October 2007 15:23 (sixteen years ago) link
xpost yay :)
<i>Zelda, that sentence is weird either way.</i>
Yeah, I guess you're right!
― Zelda Zonk, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link
You really have to query something as small as that? God, I'd go nuts.
― quincie, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't have to; I simply don't want to decide.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Morbius the Scrivener
― jaymc, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link
hahaha
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 October 2007 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link
full stops at the end of bullet-pointed sentences, yay or nay?
― Upt0eleven, Monday, 22 October 2007 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link
I say nay, unless you have more than one sentence per bullet point.
― Madchen, Monday, 22 October 2007 11:51 (sixteen years ago) link
(I don't know why, other than it feels somehow right so somebody else will have to give you a proper answer).
― Madchen, Monday, 22 October 2007 11:52 (sixteen years ago) link