TS: SHOWGIRLS vs. ROAD HOUSE

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I think children will be the first to confine their viewings to their Home Theayter Dolbyized Bedrooms.

The absence of 'The Twenty' and its ilk before Kazakh films at Lincoln Center have squeezed the multiplex even further outta my life.

(last try: actually LIKE lots of that abominable...)

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG you're talking about the twenty!

― adamrl (nordicskilla), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

The premise lifts Roadhouse well above Showgirls. I mean, any one of us could have pitched Showgirls, but whoever came up with the idea of Roadhouse is truly loopy.

― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

There were tons of philo majors like the Swayz when I was at NYU.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link

(And actually LIKE lots of that abominable contemporary dance pop.)

Uh-oh. Better skip Slant's next major list project.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 13 January 2006 00:56 (eighteen years ago) link

There were tons of philo majors like the Swayz when I was at NYU.

-- Dr Morbius (wjwe...), January 12th, 2006.

yeah, but were they TOTAL BADASSES?

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 13 January 2006 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link

(with a heart of gold, of course)

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 13 January 2006 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...

There were tons of philo majors like the Swayz when I was at NYU.

You know, I am so not surprised. About anything.

Anyway, Dan has now seen both and believed. His most common line all evening -- "Wow."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 April 2006 03:52 (eighteen years ago) link

but which does he choose???

― lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Thursday, 20 April 2006 09:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Showgirls was deemed to hold together better on a technical end. But I'll let the man speak for himself.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 April 2006 11:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Both of these movies are cinematic time capsules. The most striking thing about "Roadhouse" is how completely, utterly straight-faced it is given the completely batshit insane nonsense that accumulates throughout the movie ("We're a wacky bar movie! Now we're a showcase for Jeff Healy! Now we are focusing on incredibly fucked-up hair! Now we're about ripping out people's throats! Wait, what?"). "Showgirls" revels in its irony from the beginning and also through the magic of Elizabeth Berkeley's inappropriate makeup manages to predict the emergence of Jessica Alba. Also it's no-so-secretly porn.

Every time I think I have to decide it's "Showgirls", I remember that the climactic scene in "Roadhouse" involves the unnecessary revelation that the bad guy is a big game hunter whose only missing trophy is taut male dancer/bouncer ass and the resultant giggling leaves me undecided.

― Dan (But Probably "Showgirls") Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:31 (eighteen years ago) link

(Ally is very OTM with the "transcendant botch" comment. Also overall I didn't expect to see quite as much man ass as I did last night but that's modern cinema for you.)

― Dan (Also "Roadhouse" Had Yin And Yang Fat Guys) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Road House also has one of the best villain deaths, where Ben Gazzara gets shot about 47 times in the chest with a shotgun just so all the people he's wronged can get their licks in. He just keeps standing there and getting shot over and over! It's hilarious. Plus of course, when the protection isn't paid up on the car dealership he's got under his thumb, does he steal the cars? No! He mashes them with a monster truck! World's least thrifty bad-guy.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link

He smashes them with the monster truck his lackeys JUST HAPPEN to have been driving around town for half the movie in front of a bazillion witnesses! Because, you see, that makes sense.

I am DYING to see the stage version of this now.

― Dan (Sh-Boom, Sh-Boom) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Bonus treat (before I finally get out of here and do some wandering around town) -- Jabootu's Roadhouse review. Fairly accurate, I'd say.

This movie was made and released between Dirty Dancing and Ghost and yet is somehow more true to that which is Swayze in the end. As it were.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I finally got around to seeing the trivia track with Showgirls the other day, having had my interest revived via the Dan screening, and was amused to note that apparently Tarantino claims an inspiration for Kill Bill in Nomi kicking the shit out of the evil rape rocker at the end of the film.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Can I be forgiven for never actually having seen either of these films? (haha I said "films")

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh sure. Even though you said I won at the thread's outset. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

MATOS YOU MUST SEE BOTH OF THESE MOVIES IMMEDIATELY

― Dan ("Showgirls" And "Roadhouse" Will Change Your Life) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, and to answer the mystery way up thread about the guy on the plane watching Showgirls while Elizabeth B. sat next to him -- apparently it was on his laptop as opposed to being the official offering for viewing. A pity, since I prefer the original interpretation of course.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

hmmm I've never seen Roadhouse....

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

you have yet to live

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 5 May 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

point break!

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 5 May 2006 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I kind of have to say that "Demolition Man" is nowhere in the league of either of these movies, mostly because it just isn't ludicrous enough.

― Dan (Although It Too Features Man-Ass) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 5 May 2006 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Dan, I kind of knew that already; I just haven't had the opportunity to wallow properly.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 5 May 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

But you should, of course. Looking upthread I realized I never visited the Showgirls blog orgy Eric H. linked to/participated in, and while it's all great, his own take on twenty best quotes from the film is wondrous.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 May 2006 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...

So inevitable -- a deluxe DVD edition of Roadhouse due next week (more details here. With a trivia track and commentary from the auteur himself, Rowdy Herrington! And another commentary track with...SCOTT MOSIER AND KEVIN FUCKING SMITH!

http://accordionguy.blogware.com/Photos/2005/05/noooooooo.jpg

There is no way THAT commentary track will top David Schmader's celebration/vivisection on the fancy schmantz Showgirls DVD.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 05:25 (seventeen years ago) link

(Seriously, what the hell is Smith going to say that won't make me want to punch him in the face?)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 05:26 (seventeen years ago) link

ffs, could there really be 145 answers, and not one mention of the goddess that is gina gershon?

― nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 06:23 (seventeen years ago) link

We can be slack. (You are quite correct to bring her up.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 11:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Roadhouse wins for SWAYZE and REFORMERS VS HOOTIN HOLLERIN CRONIES and BEN GAZZARA and FIRES AND EXPLOSIONS and stuff

Showgirls is a different kinda trainwreck

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

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ROADHOUSE

I am so happy.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), July 21st, 2006. (later)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 July 2006 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

ten months pass...

ROADHOUSE IS ON RIGHT NOW

― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 02:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Did you watch it all?

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 04:43 (sixteen years ago) link

'showgirls'. A MUST.

― haitch, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 06:29 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

"Roadhouse" vs "Dirty Dancing"

― HI DERE, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

(...vs. "Ghost")

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

IT'S A SWAYZ-OFF

― HI DERE, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Dirty Dancing wins because it was years before I figured out that anyone in it was Jewish. I mean, huh? This is what happens when you grow up in Whitehall. But the point is that when I realized it was rly about religion & class it suddenly seemed so much DEEPR, MAN. Therefore win.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

"Dirty Dancing" would win if Jennifer Grey tore out someone's throat at a pivotal moment.

― HI DERE, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

These are the bullet items under "Subjects" in the NY Public Library online catalog for the Road House DVD:

Bouncers -- Drama.

Bars (Drinking establishments) -- Drama.

Crime -- Drama.

Male friendship -- Drama.

Man-woman relationships -- Drama.

Feature films.

Video recordings for the hearing impaired.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

The best part is when you click on "Bouncers -- Drama," RH is the only title that comes up.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

lolololol

― HI DERE, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

"Cocktail" beats both movies.

― snoball, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link

it's really sad that films like these can't get made nowadays.

― latebloomer, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I HAVE seen the good Road House, tho:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040740/

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

But have you seen Road House 2?

― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 00:29 (sixteen years ago) link

LOL the glory of old-school ILX in this exchange:

roadhouse has bloooze - fuck that!

-- cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:47 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link
Late eighties bloooze at that. The music NOBODY likes.

-- Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:55 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link
micheloeb liked it

-- cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:57 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link
Nobody likes Micheloeb either.

-- Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:58 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link
that's the truth!

-- cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:59 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link
Wisdom has been achieved!

-- Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:01 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

― Eisbaer, Tuesday, 25 December 2007 00:56 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

I'm addicted to Roadhouse. I've watched it about once a week for the last month.

Also, Michelob is better than a lot of overpriced, overhoppy bullshit microbrew stuff (the brown bottle regular michelob not MGD)

― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 24 March 2008 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link

ugh no

― HI DERE, Monday, 24 March 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link

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