"jalabi chalabi"?? wtf
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 10 December 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
considered but refrained from saying something about that
but yes
wtf
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I had a huge multiparagraph post that I wrote out on the train on my phone, but I had forgotten to log in and so the post disappeared. An attempted reconstruction:
Maybe one of the things that has pointed men away from dressing well is a need to feel frugal.
I googled the Missoni cardigan mentioned above and the garment costs multiple hundreds of dollars. I wouldn't pay over a hundred for anything other than a business suit, a winter coat, or shoes. I expect for many even that would seem overpriced. Ultimately, "dressing nicely" means wearing clothing of little utility in comparison with its cost.
I don't know to what extent this idea might be portrayed in advertising, but the thought struck me this morning and I kinda wanted to stick up for myself and the other slobs.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Important corrollary to this is that haven't average household incomes decreased significantly since the Cary Grant postwar jetsetter era hailed above?
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I wouldn't pay over a hundred for anything other than a business suit, a winter coat, or shoes.
not even shoes, tbh
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link
good pair of jeans, tho, maybe
I wouldn't pay over a hundred fifty quid for anything other than a business suit, a winter coat, or shoes.
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:40 (fourteen years ago) link
In relative terms, clothes used to be a bit more expensive 50 years ago so thrift came in the guises of a) more conservative dress sense and b) higher quality basics in the middle of the market - good wool suits etc. You'd spend the equivalent of a month's wages on a winter coat but wear it for 10 years minimum.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link
That is interesting info. Thanks, Suzy.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link
It's true.
Which is why the suit would be down the pawnbrokers, and back out on payday.
― Mark G, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah I don't mean to be all KIDS THESE DAYS but back-to-school always used to be about one pair of shoes (and maybe one pair of sneakers) plus capsule wardrobe and is now about buying in bulk at Target/J Crew plus a gazillion pairs of cheapo/less cheapo shoes, depending on your income - and natural fabrics. That attitude carried on through life. My grandparents spent a great deal of their '70s/'80s small talk whining about synthetic fabrics and the false economies/tackiness of same.
This is why all of my Mad Men-era clothes inherited from various female relatives stay in perfect condition unless the moths get 'em, and why it's difficult to find good men's vintage suits - the jackets are always fine but dudes wore the butts/sacks out of the trousers.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Sacks, Suzy?
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Unmentionable Man Problem, Mentioned: scrotal rub against fabric wearing out the fabric over time.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link
^ this one knows too much, she must be destroyed.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link
I hated the scrotal rub until I discovered boxer briefs.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link
God they must have had large scrota back then!
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Dangly bits need support! Ask any titty-bearing human.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link
gotta be honest boxer briefs ain't done it for me, that's why i'd consider spending hard € on jeans these days.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link
aaaaannnd right back on track- masculinity is when your balls wear through DENIM RAWR
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:55 (fourteen years ago) link
These are serious issues for the vintage clothing savant in your life. Also scrotal rub v. jeans FITE explains the absence of large stockpiles of big E Levi's.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:57 (fourteen years ago) link
big P Levi's tbh RAWR
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link
...and what is truly awful is that camel-toeing has been known to have the same outcome in women, although there may be less locker-room pride involved than HAY GUYS, MY POWERBALLS DEFEATED WRANGLER.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
"scrotal rub" itself is a marketing phrase for what is otherwise known as "chub rub". but whatever makes you feel better, thunderthighs.
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link
a woman's pride come from sewing back together the jeans that were worn out by their man's balls.
― I sb'ed your mum (ken c), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link
so they they can wear them out again RAWR
Even though I've never been a victim of it, I am amazed that I've never heard the term 'chub rub' before.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link
i had a big chub rub problem in like 8th grade
― max, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
talcum powder yall
I've never heard it either, and anyway doesn't "chub" mean something at least slightly other than dangle?
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Depends on the angle of the dangle
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Angle of dangle weighed against Heat of meat. Apparently the University of Colorado did a study.
http://www.agmates.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/sea-level-graph-450.jpg
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Steer clear of this Jason guy, is my advice.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link
the angle of the dangle = the heat of the meat x the mass of the ass
― twice boiled cabbage is death, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Speaking of dangle angle:
http://www.kilchristcastle.com/Kintyre-Map2.gif
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Ass. The Other Variable.
(New marketing slogan.)
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link
otoh the rub of the chub is directly proportionate to the weight of the gait
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
I've never looked at the contents of that dangerous book for boys but from 2nd-hand impressions it seems like a juvenile version of the "X things every man must know" lists published in books or men's magazines. and then there's the subset of "X things every dad should know" lists.
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.randomhouse.com.au/systempicts/9780224086295.jpg
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3471/3248199882_3ed6759278.jpg
― elmo leonard (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link
xp author's name too close to 'gay marriage', fail.
― Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
1) dont touch yrself in public
― it's like 10,000 goons when all you need is a trife (m bison), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, poo.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
There is a generational need for some of these books TBH, just thinking of all the guys I know that didn't have activity-based quality time with their divorced dads but do have all this collective false nostalgia to pour into their own young families.
― special vixens unit (suzy), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
I am encouraged by the prominent presence of an ironing board on the cover.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
It's not long enough to adequately iron the trousers.
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Eh... it's one of those that hang from the top of the door. You make do.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link
More important to have an iron than an ironing board.
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link
I thought that was some kind of fucked-up snowboard. : (
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link
YOU NEED THIS BOOK
― Cronenberg sleazy (kenan), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
You need "Snowboarding for Dummies"
― HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link