the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

rotj is kinda fugly in some spots

important in an f/x heavy sci-fi epic ya know!

dune is 10000 times better to watch stoned

better soundtrack too

did people get offended by the ewoks when they were kids watching ROTJ?

no. and after watching Caravan Of Courage i immediately rewound the tape and watched again.

I just accepted them as coming from the same universe that produced all the weird-assed creatures in the first two movies and I still do.

i wonder what kids who first see the '97 version prefer out of Ewoks and that dreadful song they added to the Jabba's Palace scenes

My kid saw the '97 version first (at age 4) and for a few weeks would put ROTJ into the DVD player for the sole purpose of watching the Jabba's Palace song over and over again. I was in hell.

Like, I taught you to use the remote and this is how you repay me?

did you let them watch the prequels first?

The title of the song is apparently "Jedi Rocks".

xp: I tried to actively discourage Mrs. Kongvsgodzilla from buying the prequels at all, but I failed in that. His favorite Star Wars is Revenge of the Sith.

Really, all of the movies are too long and slowly paced for him to really get into yet.

any idea what they think the scariest scene(s) out of the 6 films are? sorry, just quite curious. i don't remember ever finding Darth Vader scary for example (much scarier when he takes his helmet off at the end of ROTJ). As I said before, I think limbless Anakin bursting into flames in ROTS would've freaked me out a LOT if i'd seen that as a child.

emperor is pretty scary with the flashing and the lightening and being old and all

Palpatine was a fucking joke in ROTJ. Even as a kid I was all like, "THIS is the geezer everyone's afraid of?" Throw him down a flight of stairs.

or just switch off his stairlift halfway down. but his magic was good.

The bit in ROTS where he turns into Paul Daniels is pretty frightening.

he really looks like Gary Oldman in Dracula during the transition to Emperor. that whole stretch is preposterous but actually quite entertaining.

http://www.galacticbinder.com/images/DarkestMoments/anakin-palpatine-opera.jpg
"You're going to like this. Not a lot, but you'll like it. Now say 'Yes Palpatine!' <throws voice> Yes Palpatine!"

Vader takes off his mask... and it's the lovely Debbie McGee.

any idea what they think the scariest scene(s) out of the 6 films are?

He professes to not be scared of anything (at all, full stop). This includes Star Wars. I'll have to ask if he thinks there's anything that's scariest.

I know for a fact that he was extremely scared when Fizzgig got thrown down into that hole in Dark Crystal, though.

I, on the other hand, had to be escorted from the theater when I attended Empire Strikes Back as a child because there had been a statue of Darth Vader in the lobby.

As I said before, I think limbless Anakin bursting into flames in ROTS would've freaked me out a LOT if i'd seen that as a child.

OK, last week I went to that Star Wars In Concert deal. One of the selections the orchestra played was "Battle of the Heroes" from the ROTS score, and it was accompanied by video of the big Anakin/Obi-Wan lightsaber fight, lots of Vader footage from ESB and ROTJ, Anakin killing the sandpeople, etc. Plus there were live fire effects on stage. A little kid sitting behind us, about 6-7 years old, got absolutely pants-wetting terrified. He burst into sobs and was crying, "I want my mommy!" It occurred to me that it's very possible that a lot of little-little kids haven't even seen ROTS.

LOL - that is my kid's favorite scene from that movie! Do you think he'll turn out weird or something?

Also, when my Dad took me to see ROTJ, I made us leave because somebody was smoking in the theater and I was afraid it would start a fire.

I was "sensitive".

dune is 10000 times better to watch stoned

^^^

The Star Wars movies I find don't hold up under such sensory-enhanced scrutiny, particularly ROTJ, which at times feels like you are watching a weird daytime TV soap opera.

Empire is easily the best designed. I think it's a very elegant movie, visually.

on the money. It looks wonderful.

emperor is pretty scary in a cool sinister-but-wise way in rotj

disturbing scenes for me as a kid - lukes parents black skeleton bones on fire and jabbas palace scene was a bit ooky.

"Your overconfidence is your weakness!"
"Your faith in your friends is yours!"

Classic comeback, particularly with his sneering offhand delivery.

^^ ha yes, a brilliant pwnage.

"your faith in your friends is yours"

i guess turned out to be his weakness too?

here's an underrated howler: "Soon I'll be dead, and you with me."

Also fond of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGwDwx10wB4

Seriously, Palpatine rocks the house in Jedi.

Yeah, the faux pussy voice would have enlivened several hundred lines in ROTS.

The disgruntled expression on ol' Emp's face right after Luke's "I am a Jedi, like my father before me" speech is ace.

no he's fucking MIFFED.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6odktXD31s

Luke looks like Richard Chamberlain here.

disturbing scenes for me as a kid - lukes parents black skeleton bones on fire

Even today that is jarringly graphic by the standards of the other 5 movies, as is the bloody, cut-off arm in the cantina scene.

This is the point in the thread where I remind everyone that nowhere in ROTJ is the word "Ewok" ever uttered, and that the only reason any of us even know what an Ewok is is that Lucasfilm's marketing is utterly insidious.

Utterly Insidious should have been the name of an evil Jedi in one of the prequels, BTW.

It more or less was.

http://www.skywlkr.net/idc/expansions/downloads/wotc/card%20images/darth%20sidious%20e.jpg

scariest scene by far is luke's vader hallucination where he cuts off his head... so freaky

Luke's "I am a Jedi, like my father before me"

haha i love lukes little head nod, to where darth is lay in agony, when he says this

The heroes are pretty cruel in this movie. (Luke killing that guy's pet masterblaster; Leia choking fat muppet to death) Has it ever been established in the Star Wars canon exactly why the Empire is the bad guy beyond having a ridiculous military budget?

I don't know the specifics, but I think killing Bothans probably comes into it somewhere.

didn't they destroy an entire planet?

Refusal to lower exorbitant Galactic Capital Gains Tax.

ALDERAAN... never forget

There's a line in the original Ep IV script about how the Empire are nationalising industry... Just like Obama wants to, look out America!