the shadow ring

oh shit need to pay for my book!!!!

i love the shadow ring. they are one of the most incredible.... things. ever.

they really are quite wonderful.

the book has the complete lyrics to "We're Complex Piss." turns out my transcription was actually pretty close.

there's a new single by Tim Goss out on KYE. "Call Back the Giants."
It is excellent.

listened to 'Salmon Run' for the first time today - what an amazing rec, as gd as any shadow ring disc imho! love the way that lambkin can make something so spooky and OTHER out of relatively simple, even familiar, effects - animal noises, laughter, water sounds, hiss, ominous thumps, raw chunks of classical singing, breathing and so on, all of interconnected and (self) referencing, never academic or heartless. also makes it slightly easier to 'see' lambkin's contribution to the shadow ring through this prism - more pl!

softly softly copy copy!

is that as gd, ian? might have to stroll down to volcanic tongue one lunchtime...

i don't know if it's /as good/ (whatever that means?) but it's certainly a nice recording! it does incorporate a lot of similar sounds--water, animals, weird tape manipulation, violin..

ya sold me!

Tim Goss performing Call Back the Giants material at Cafe Oto this week. Graham Lambkin doing some readings from Dumb Answer to Miracles as well. Hopefully playing something too.

And I gather there's a Call Back the Giants LP on the way. Hope it's not as pricey as the Kye 7"s have been.

Graham's got a book of recent drawings coming out soon too.

Lambkin/Lescaleet duo playing at Issue Project Room in NYC tonight--who's going?
Also, do I need to show up at the space on time? I will need to leave work early, and perhaps take a cab.

no body?

dont suppose reissues will ever happen just have to stump up the big bucks but this is one band that is completely worthwhile so whatever happens you need to find a way

really interesting Graham Lambkin interview here, highlight has to be this bit

"I'd befriended this guy named Don Raleigh,” he recalls, “who was in this band called The Squirrel Nut Zippers. In the late 90s, they were huge for like an album, they got really big during this swing revival." At the time Graham was working in an arthouse cinema where Don's wife was volunteering.

"Don had aspirations in experimental film, even though they weren't really ever played out, but his wife put me in touch and we became friends for a little while. He had this huge house on Miami beach; they were a very wealthy couple. I'd go down there, play him things and he would be really enthusiastic about it. Then I moved to Poughkeepsie and there was this call from Fedex saying that you're expecting a delivery. This van showed up and offloaded this huge Kurzweil synthesizer, a Mac computer editing suite, all these top of the range mics, and they were all his. Their relationship had imploded, he'd split the States and just went off travelling, and he just gave it all to me."

ha, that's amazing! thanks for linking to the interview.

iirc there was even a collaboration between the two at one point in the late nineties

wow, great story

so I guess those reissues that were planned nine years ago never happened, huh?

patience...

No! Please spill it. I have no patience in regards to news about the shadow ring.

new Lambkin/Aine O'Dwyer double CD on Erstwhile in a few weeks.

sorry, just excited about that having just heard it for the first time, didn't mean to get people excited for no reason.

why the fuck has this stuff not been reissued? so annoying.

I totally slept on this shit back in the day and honestly am still approaching it warily, I had the first couple of singles and sold them and never went back, but recently found a copy of the Remains Unchanged disc (which I assume is leftovers from the various eras) and was sucked in enough to want more

(ian to thread plz)

Thanks John. I thought that might be the case after reading the Quietus interview. Will preorder when possible! I also thought/hoped that Salmon Run was getting a deluxe reissue.

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big announcement tomorrow, I expect a lot of love in my direction.

! jon, you bloody tease

really - all gratitude for championing avant underworlds for my seventeen year old ears to discover some ten years ago, now.

"extremely proud and excited to announce a new imprint, ErstPast, documenting archival recordings with a connection to Erstwhile.

there will be two major projects coming on ErstPast in 2019, one will be:

The Shadow Ring-The Complete Recorded Work 1993-2003 (11 CD/DVD box set)"

https://www.facebook.com/erstwhilerecords/posts/1997226303653728

well that is indeed amazing, and thank you, but I must ask - are there plans for separate release of the individual discs?

I mean, I will probably buy this anyway, the question is more out of idle curiosity.

Will buy. What's on the DVD?!

we are in the early stages still (but it’s moving fast), so I don’t have answers for either of those yet (although I think Graham knows exactly what he wants on the DVD).

thanks! bookmarked.

dang i will buy the hell out of that

some back of the envelope calculations indicate that to purchase all of this out of print material would run you over $500 in the current marketplace

that's about what I made in a regrettable sell-off of my shadow ring collection 9 years ago.

now 12 CDs/1 DVD.

have to say I expected a lot more excitement in this thread about that news, but maybe when it's out.

in the meantime, Graham's fantastic new double CD with Áine O'Dwye rthat I mentioned upthread is now out for preorder, shipping in a few weeks.

https://erstwhilerecords.bandcamp.com/album/green-ways

I'm excited! A lot! So glad it will be on CD rather than vinyl! Just a bit nervous about what it will cost to purchase in the UK.

I think it's going to be pretty reasonably priced, especially direct from me, but we'll see what it actually costs to put together first.

I’m excited, too, though curious what it will be. I hope there’s a whole world to discover. Any details as yet? If it’s any consolation, I just purchased the Graham and Aine double disc through erstwhile bandcamp.

not announcing a specific track list yet, but it will have not just all of the LP/CDs but the singles and compilation tracks too. there is not much previously unreleased (Remains Unchanged covered almost everything that was left) but there should be a bit plus 'released' material that almost no one has heard (hardcore fans can probably figure out what I mean by this and just leave it at that for now without followup questions, thanks).

more exciting IMO is that most/all of this material was not mastered or mastered poorly originally, and we will be doing our best from the original tapes. plus a big booklet...

and thanks for the Green Ways purchase!!

Klaus Canterbury & The Aces deluxe 180g reissue or bust

my excitement is tempered cos of the exact opposite reasons that Ward Fowler IS excited - won't be on record - its not a surprise because I know Mr Lambkins indifference towards the format but I can't help but feel a little bummed

I mean, it would be like 20 LPs or something, I can't even imagine what we'd have to sell it for or what shipping costs would be, etc.

fair enough - was hoping there might be some other version of this, stripped down 3-4 record set or maybe individual records considering the prices and availability the older ones go for - but great that its coming out at all, guess ill just have to think about modernising my listening habits and get into these new fangled 'CD' things people keep going on about

As people are indicating above, I'm sure that nowadays it's an expensive proposition to acquire the original Shadow Ring albs, but things like I'm Some Songs have NEVER been issued on CD before - so that's why I'm excited.

Count me among those happy that this will be a CD set and not some exorbitantly expensive vinyl only thing

hurrah for compact disc. looking forward to remasters.