marketing of masculinity

That Dockers ad is hilariously stupid. I associate wearing Dockers with being in high school so the whole "BE A MAN" thing is pretty much entirely undercut by the fact that I was a child intentionally buying conservative pants that I could wear wit combat boots and Cure t-shirts.

I wish Harry Stein's Esquire article from 1994 about the "post-sensitive man" (Clinton and Lyle Lovett as examples, leading the way for Obama and Cloon) was on-line somewhere. Instead, there's just coverage of it from the NY Times:

The May issue trumpets the ascendance of the Post-Sensitive Man, one who treats women with respect but no longer needs to feel guilty "for the crime of simply thinking and feeling as men always have," as the article's author, Harry Stein, puts it.

The Sensitive Man, who re-created himself in response to feminism -- condemning the macho spirit, proclaiming emotional openness and purging prurient thoughts -- was always something of a fraud, asserts Mr. Stein, who is 45 and married. What's more, everyone was still dissatisfied, anyway. He suggests optimistically that today, in the easy-going acceptance of the inner differences between men and women and an end to self-righteousness on all sides, lies the possibility of "genuine understanding between the sexes."

where do buffed out dudes in brightly-colored MMA bootyshorts and foil-pressed images of brass knuckles on $175 tshirts enter into this masculinity discussion?

around 2007 i think

o i thought you said "when"--should have responded, "around the metropolitan ave stop"

i <3 you, max

Results 1 - 10 of about 65,100 for "sensitive new-age man". (0.37 seconds)

just curious what macho-khakism has to do with peacocking MMA dudes, if anything. is there a shift because of the economy? who's the REAL fag here??

(also just trying to bring up that there are many masculinities in the culture and talking in monolithic terms is oversimplifying the picture.)

like old western, mustache, strong silent type man or international playboy sophisticate type man or athletic and muscles MMA type or etc etc?

ads for the marines feel like a combo of all three for me (not so much the second)

military ads are like the ideal masculine ads, and they combine the commitment to serving others impulse laurel described earlier with the "plus you can be macho and blow shit up" impulse of...i dunno, mma and dave and busters ok i am grasping at straws on that i think

So what type of pants do you all wear on the weekends?

wait, you can blow shit up at Dave & Busters??????????????????

piloting a drone is just like d&bs afaik

So what type of pants do you all wear on the weekends?

Problem w/the premise here, in that if u are wearing pants on the weekend u are misunderstanding the concept of "weekend."

I guess you do your grocery shopping on Wednesdays, then.

i shop at an exclusive men's only pantsless grocery store fyi

fuck it, let's blame all this bullshit on Fight Club

eh why do that when can blame it on feminism and vote republican for the rest of our lives

"you are not your goddamn khakis"

real men use plastic forks! what are you supposed to do during the Real Man (TM) activity of BBQing????

use big steel fuck-off ones, that's if you just don't use mammoth tusks.

man all these years i might has well have been holding my BBQ tongs with my vagina : (

how the hell does one BBQ with a plastic fork???????

men, we are all doomed

metal forks are best if you have a lady to wash them and can thus avoid the castrating effects of dishwater

you BBQ with steel implements of doom

you eat BBQ with yr goddamned BARE HANDS

rawr

surely you chain saw the meat into pieces before shoving the whole lot into your mouth together with some charcoal with your bare hands

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lol Dan grocery shopping is women's work

Nobody's copping to their pants.

you don't actually cook the meat, by the way, you just want to eat the hot charcoal and have the meat cooked inside your stomach

how the hell does one BBQ with a plastic fork???????

men, we are all doomed

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dude I mean eating like your potato salad and baked beans with a plastic fork...i mean who wants to bring actual silverware to the park???

wearing women's panties right now tbh

rawr

Worrying about silverware is not a man's job!

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images18/ChihuahuaViansBigMacAttackMac3.JPG

RAWR

how do you eat cous cous with a fork anyway?

I don't understand why they are using the Levis design manual and then not putting a brand name in? It is just a free ad, for Levis, by someone else?

it's dockers, same company

I have a lot to learn about being a man.

RAWR.

Its not an ad, it's from their website:

http://www.us.dockers.com/season/landing.aspx

wait I thought khakis were for pussies...

jesus i came to work feeling like ray lewis and i'm gonna leave feeling like klaus nomi.

RAWR.

i eat my food off the floor, sometimes out of a bowl. . . if i'm feeling fancy. . . otherwise, it's off the floor

RAWR

feelings are for women, matt

I just punched a deer in the face.

RAWR.

i piss in the woods and shake hands with strangers and goddamn it I MAKE EYE CONTACT

RAWR

despite being flawless sometimes i make mistakes deliberately so i can stand up to admit to them.

RAWR

i taught a bobcat how to whistle the theme from rocky. my workout routine is running for my life every morning to its majestic ersatz trumpet fanfare.

RAWR

My Vietnam Vet dad looks UP to ME godammit

RAWR

this thread is turning into Courage Wolf Part II: The Wrath of Courage Wolf

RAWR

I will wear a Claiborne shirt with Calvin Klein pants without even blinking

RAWR

RAwr no what