Grand Theft Auto IV -- It might feature crime and prostitutes.

i went through a great 'let down' feeling of this game just after the final mission, griping about lots of stuff that should have been included, and how different it was to previous gta's.

i was still playing it though, and now i'm back to loving it again.

On the whole I haven't been let down.

and yeah, even though i don't multiplay it all that much - the multiplayer modes are the best i've seen in any game

As with most of the GTA games they did a PERFECT job of making me super interested, and LOVING the first part of it, but by the end I merely... liked it? And once I beat it it left NO taste in my mouth. Barely thought about it again post-beating. The only exception was San Andreas. Have I said this before? I may have.

I still like it a lot but haven't finished it.

needs more fun side missions. less "go drink with Dwayne or he's gonna send you a sad face message." more environmental changes that stick. more driving missions that are kill or be killed. and the mission redo part needs the fast forward option back.

I've played three GTAs (III, Vice City, IV), and IV is the only one I've liked enough to play for more than a few hours. Maybe it was the slightly more sympathetic character, or the better soundtrack options, or improved graphics, but I like IV more than I thought I would. It's definitely not the controls, which were my biggest problem with the older ones, and which were only slightly improved with IV.

there was some great stuff for sure but it really felt like a beautifully-constructed set with nothing to do

it's kind of evil to present you with a city that seems so realistic except you can't really do ANYTHING with it besides knock people over, get chased by cops, and trigger animations at various businesses. and not even that many of them.

it LOOKS like a world but doesn't feel like one. like a weird purgatory.

ha WELCOME TO NEW JERSEY

yeah, but doesn't the "realistic world w/ nothing to do" complaint fit with the previous GTAs, too?

isn't that also one of the half-assed defenses of No More Heroes' lackluster overworld, that it's a parody of how little freedom the various GTA's open-world environments actually provide you with?

One thing this game got me thinking about is how I should go back and start playing "The Warriors" again.

amazes me how the cops can find a path to you. Like in playboys house, the cops will climb the stairs in the building opposite just to take a pop at you.

i've been enjoying the vigilante gang-warfare missions lately, these and the criminals on foot missions are a great way to top up your weapons.

and held a huge seige in my house on broker last night, just standing inside loose aiming at the door with shotgun and pistols. Many many dead and some horrific explosions outside sending policemen flying through the door. It all ended when one plucky cop just came running in all the way up to me and knocked me down with the butt of his rifle.

much fun still

I've hit a bit of a Call Of Duty 4 wall so I picked this up again this week. I wish I liked it more than I do. I think my biggest problem with it is that I find the controls just so awkward. Maybe I just need to spend more time with it.

well i've played this thing for hours and I'm still grumbling with some of the combat controls tbh. driving is a doddle now though.

Yeah I love driving, the cars handle beautifully. Shooting while driving though - that's a different matter.

i hate not being able to aim without firing off a round, with shooting from cars.

sometimes the button response in combat becomes ridiculous when things get busy on screen, and you end up pressing overly much - obv causing more stress.

One thing that I do ALL THE FUCKING TIME is jumping out of moving cars. Why do I keep pressing that triangle button? Why??

lol mutlpiayer racing chat:

"how come you're all so fast?"
"use your boost, press triangle"

lol akin to the old f10 gag on counterstrike et al

or "type 'gg 16000' in the console for extra money!"

what does that do?

gg kills the game

(counterstrike, that is)

*might have been in CS 1.3 or something, haven't tried it in years.

Just looked it up. gg tried to run a demo in Game Gauge mode - you put 16000 or whatever after it and it exits your current game with a "demo not found" error.

So you'd get
noob: how come you guys all have better guns than me
onimo: we're using the cash cheat in the console, type 'gg 16000' in console to get 16000 dollars
noob has left the game

"noob has left the game"

This is the part that cracks me up

I've found a good dozen or so pigeons in the past few days, I have 45 left to locate and it's just going to get harder.

I have noticed that a lot of them aren't really 'hidden', and you can find them just perched on walls and stuff in the open.

Also my timer has fucked up, it's stuck at 298 hours of play and won't go any further but I've heard of other people with the same problem as well.

Another thing I had fun with, causing trouble with the local gangs in coney island. all you have to do is steal a car in front of them and all hell breaks loose.

298 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i've seen things you people wouldn't believe.

also damn it i usually find at least one pigeon at lunchtimes, today? none!

i walked past an old man and i heard him say
"As long as I've got a face, you'll always have somewhere to sit"

i spied a trashmaster that had mistakenly spawned on the roof of a building, it was trapped so I decided to help by lobbing a grenade up to him to try and dislodge it.

Unfortunately it worked, the grenade landed between the truck and a wall and lo and behold the truck shot off the roof with a hell of a blast and, sigh, headed straight for me. splat!

working very slowly through the game, just took kiki to the comedy club....

ricky gervais is as funny as cancer.

i was watching my brother play this, earlier today. he was throwing a plastic cup at people.

amazing, after many many hours of playing i find another secret mission.

my quota for pigeon hunting is going sweet, one per day and an extra one today.

Just started, reached my second safehouse. Question: why is Roman upset about our prospects? With the 10 large in cashmoney I've got, I could always get a favorable loan!

"F10 for stats" still works in CS:S.

I just finished my first race, and am amazingly covetous of Stevie's car. It just sits outside my place, I never drive it, for fear of losing/scratching it. Maybe I'll take it to the carwash later...

what's the car? if its a fast sports car, keep it! You may never see it spawn again!

great causing mayhem at gas stations, as the cars just keep pulling in no matter how much fire and chaos is still happening.

It is a GOLDEN SPORTSCAR and it glides like QUICKSILVER (QUICKGOLD?)...

Yesterday on multiplayer, I found a sportscar with batwing doors (like on a delorean), which I've never seen in single player.

[bat-doors] thats the Infernus and i've never seen it spawn in single player other than a reward or for a mission, keep it if you see it.

Stevie's car is the Comet (the Porsche)! I know this because I just played it like 5 times (nice to see that the computer still cheats in races grrrrrr).

who's on xboxlive here? i have the BLOODLUSTT (stevietonychick)

[leee, my advice on the racing is STEELY COMPOSURE, CALM, and NO MISTAKES. i was sweating like a bitch at the end of it.]

amazingly found 2 pigeons last night, something like 34 left. and it was only a random visit. one was embarrassingly right outside one of my safehouses.

i've found that the helicopter is almost useless for pigeon hunting

http://kotaku.com/5064303/san-andreas-rolls-onto-xbox-originals

I finally won last night XD took me way too many tries...

XD?

Oh wait, is that a smiley.

Ugh that Snow Job mission (SWAT = BOOOOOurns). Elizabeta, get your own darned powder!

I hear the wussy way out -- make a mad dash out of the area and cool yer heels until the heat dies down -- is a way to go, and I will investigate it further.

yeah that took me a bunch of tries too. getting a good position is the hard part. I decided to kill every cop in the city if they walked into my little corridor and eventually they stopped coming.