Gossip Girl

Ah, i see.

But then why commission a spin-off pilot to start? That's like beginning the human cloning process before remembering that the person being cloned has an IQ of 78.

Gossip Girl started off strong, and I imagine crafting that episode probably had a longer lead time than average. And at the very least it was a buzz-worthy GG ep (I didn't watch the show at that time but was hearing all about it).

it was fine as an episode, not particularly whatever

and i think GG is strong at this time, in terms of quality -- it had a definite bullshit phase last season

Doesn't the exec producer of GG (the same guy who did the OC - Josh Schwartz - thanks, Wikipedia) always do this, where he'll have this buzz-worthy show that is much talked about and occasionally riveting but then it starts a steep decline way too soon? Wasn't that the problem with the OC? Didn't that shows' second season have a bullshitty phase, too?

yes

but i don't know if that one ever got better

Last season of The OC was the second best of the series.

fuck u

haha just kidding xo

imho. The series really improved after they killed Mischa Barton.

mischa barton's a fuckup with no skillz. sad thing about her recently cancelled "the beautiful life" . . . .

shes so nice to look at though

the oc went to shit after the novelty of how improbably beautiful mischa barton is wore off

Improbably beautiful? Were her parents hideous monsters?

that sandy guy was memorably gross

keeeeerstin was hot though

Improbable, but not impossible, it seems.

summer kicked everyone's ass though, no question

that last season of the oc where mischa barton's pothead sister showed up was pretty good iirc

the real problem w/gg btw is that is seems to want to make the old ppl the moral center of the show but is unaware of loathsome and boring and terrible they are

wait so was that chuck's mom?

That is what she is gonna say in March when the show comes back.

The third season of The O.C. was the shitty season. It rebounded a bit for the fourth and final, but it was too late by that point.

Downloaded the second season of Gossip Girl - so weird how it wanted to be OC East, I think, but missed out on everything that made everyone in The OC likable (or interesting, at the least). Blake Lively and Leighton Meester are v. v. pretty, tho.

Speaking of The O.C., I never knew anything about this idea:

There were plans to turn the show into something of a reverse spin-off. Schwartz being the creative force behind the television series Gossip Girl planned to release a spin-off entitled Valley Girls, originally to premiere in the fall of 2009. Schwartz wanted to tie in the younger versions of the characters from both The O.C. and the principals from Valley Girls to establish a continuity with Gossip Girl.

blair and dan!

LILY - omg the episode of lily's downfall was my fav episode

(not bc i dislike lily - i think kelly rutherford is aMAYzing on this show - just a great ep)

schwartz-verse

I'm unsure about this new one on three listens yet, but the song where Mark constantly rhymes about Gossip Girl plotlines is pretty LOL.

― Michael F Gill, Friday, November 4, 2011 11:51 PM (1 week ago

New song by the Mark E. Smith and the Fall

So that was a painfully bad episode.

catching up with the last three episodes - it's not as bad as it was toward the middle of the season.

also, Leighton Meester just gets more amazing looking

series finale

anyone else bother watching?

YES. What did you think, single other ILX viewer?

I know objectively speaking that the show is terrible, but it's me and and my partner's comfort viewing, and we'll both quite miss it.

otm ^^

Yes, it was completely terrible, but I loved the final episode in a ridiculous way.

The ending is incredibly awful (and dark!) though, but if they were going to do the reveal I suppose it made sense in a fucked-up way.

I was reminded of when it was great/watchable (s1, s2) and that was about the most I could expect from the finale.

was really happy that lily ended up with scheming jerk ex

poor pretty Nate, after all that trouble trying to uncover Gossip Girl's identity, he doesn't even get to find out for himself.

I'm gonna miss Georgina the most.

Biggest surprise of the six seasons -- Liz Hurley was actually pretty great in this show. I mean, wooden as fuck, but somehow great nonetheless.

My favourite period of this show was the second season, when every episode it was Blair or Chuck doing the "I love you," "We can't do this now" conversation, and even thought they did it every bastard episode, it was somehow ALWAYS HEARTBREAKING.

oh wait is this where I post the trailer for the new one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsah5yCzh-U

anyone else watch the premiere? thoughts?

i liked it, though the main boyfriend's guilty rich/wokeness thing is a bit heavy-handed and not sure about spoiling GG's identity so early on gives the premise a bit of an expiry date

I liked it too but criticisms that it's devoid of humor are OTM; the teachers are kind of funny but the kids are not, so there is a big Blair/Dorota shaped hole in the middle of the show.