The balearic beardo beach hippie album canon

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max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

um, the new Hatchback album, Colors Of The Sun. Any track by Studio? Maybe those are too obvious but I think they definitely fit

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

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max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

andreas vollenweider maybe?

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

bordering on Harley and not beachy, but first three James Gang records.

Also, for similar reasons, first two Sugarloaf records.

Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

chris rea is the king of the desultory beach party

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

the "crazy" angle: Osmonds' Crazy Horses and parts of The Plan

Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

whenever i think of fool if you think it's over i think of miracles by jefferson starship and that makes me think of i'm not in love by 10cc. EVERY TIME.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

A good chunk of The Free Design and Harpers Bizarre (it would have to be a bit of a twee beach)

Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

"on the beach" has my favorite chris rea drum machine sound:

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Lighthouse!

Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link

"all summer long" is great too:

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

"jax ur list seems more like a general balearic canon and not necc "beardo beach hippie""

max's point here is sound though: i sort of want the "beardo beach hippie" end of this continuum filled in more as I only know a little bit of this stuff, mostly at the more conservative end if/where my mother was a fan. But feel free to post anything along the continuum.

Stuff that would previously be considered as "rock" but now is considered genre-smashing avant genius (whether this seems fair or not) strikes me as interesting precisely for that reason, the way new ears "hear" something more than perhaps is even really there. The overreaching claims made on behalf of Pacific Ocean Blue are a good example (a great album despite not sounding like Remain In Light etc.). On the Dennis Wilson thread people were suggesting the following as canonical picks:

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Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

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Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

chris rea must be a huge jj cale fan. that's all i know. which is wonderful. cuz i love jj. who needs david sylvian when you can just listen to chris rea and jj cale? no fretless bass to distract either!

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

"i sort of want the "beardo beach hippie" end of this continuum filled in more as I only know a little bit of this stuff,"

well then seriously you should check that west coast thread again. there are only 4 million recommendations on there.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

no other is the greatest album ever made. this year. for me. and maybe next year too.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

"no other" is great but has more of a c/w vibe than "beach" vibe i think

david crosby is totally this tho! isnt there even a beach on the cover of "if i could only remember my name"?

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

My contribution: a band called Sea Level, also known as most of the Allman Brothers rhythm section.

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Also Mcguinn, Clark and Hillman.

Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

"looking for the summer" is the best chris rea summertime video though:

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

"no other" is great but has more of a c/w vibe than "beach" vibe i think"

really more of an undead hollywood goth pimp vibe if you ask me.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"david crosby is totally this tho! isnt there even a beach on the cover of "if i could only remember my name"?"

Yes! See upthread.

Scott the purpose of this thread is so that people like you and max can tell me that No Other, while amazing, doesn't fit into this canon. I haven't heard it so I don't know!

I want to check out everything on the west coast thread. give me a million years and a million dollars plz.

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

skot wolf king of la sounds more like that than no other does! i think.

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

So is it Ok for some vaguely rhythmic New Age to get thrown with all the Alan Parsons and Eno?

If so Kitaro, his first two albums mostly.

Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

What is the best Santana album BTW?

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

i need more shadowfax albums.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

oh jeez, where to start. santana have so many amazing albums. and so many different periods and sounds...

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i spent a lot of time this spring with the first disc of this, but there is also a lot of crap in that box.

tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

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^^ if this doesnt say undead hollywood goth pimp to you i dont know what does

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

buy LOTUS, i dare you. so amazing...

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scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i like that john phillips record. i haven't heard it in years. i like almost everthing he ever did though. um, with group and on his own.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry, my last post was a confusing xpost re crosby.

tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

u know what tim? im listening to no other right now with beach in mind and i think it might fit. title track in particular.

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

speaking of shadowfax, i always really dug tri atma too:

(first tri atma album is awesome, and sadly i no longer own a copy)

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

title track of no other fits everything that i am on earth. getting strength of strings tattoo one of these days.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Re No Other, I still plan to get it either way max.

I also liked the idea Jeff W proposed early on in the West Coast thread of a studio session musician artistry album canon (though he didn't put it quite like that) - something quite separate both to Gene Clark and balearic beardo beach hippies.

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

this is kind of hard cause some of this stuff--gene clark & john phillips say--doesnt necessarily scream "beach" (tho they do scream "70s LA" to me), but would totally fit in a mix sandwiched with 'beach party'-er songs. if that makes sense. so like "no other" doesn't necc work as part of this "canon" 'cause as an album its a little too c/w, i think, but individual songs given a chance would fit well

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry i have to correct myself, "no other" isnt really all that country, im just using that as shorthand for like... "i was in the byrds and hung out with a bunch of LA cats in the 70s"

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

the new reissue of john phillip's "lost" jagger/richards record, pussycat, totally fits the wasted beach vibe, it's sleazier than wolfking

velko, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Obligatory shout out for On The Beach here.

NickB, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

max feel free to err on the side of inclusiveness when making these suggestions, but qualifiers like the above are interesting too.

In a more pop sense, I absolutely adored David Cassidy's "Romance (Love Mix)" (as used, go figure, on a Ronny & Renzo djhistory.com mix) - would love more stuff like that.

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Not sure if this works with all the 70s beach pop, but its got a Roxy connection so maybe

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Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Even though it has been over talked a bit on this thread, the theme of recontextualization played with my head when I first listened to No Other this morning front to back and the first track is extremely country to me. But then the rest of the album departs into coked out bluesey folk country madness. I mean i think all the music on this thread is the type that crosses typical genres such that the expectations to begin with dictate how the rest of the record can be perceived.

No Other was recommended to me by jax when I asked for more coked out 70s LA rock like Pacific Ocean Blue, all Fleetwood Mac, early Dan and such...

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Monday, 20 October 2008 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Fixed

I mean i think all the music on this thread is the type that crosses typical genre boundaries such that one's expectations upon listening dictate how the rest of the record is perceived.

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Monday, 20 October 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Not that that is a revelation but the country aspects of No Other really blew my mind in this way. For instance, the slide guitar and the cracks in Clark's voice, typical country elements with a completely different context.

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Monday, 20 October 2008 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

you know i feel like i have a long and complicated "personal essay" or something to write someday about all this music (by which i mean trad-balearic and nu-balearic and 'cosmic american music' and what have you--everything on this thread & the balearic thread and the 70s thread) and my relationship to it and its relationship to LA and my relationship to LA as filtered through this stuff. its weird--maybe not actually--but i dont think i really actually started to love and enjoy los angeles as a city and on its own terms until i started dipping into all of this, the sunny-tropical-cheerful music. i went from listening to a lot of east coast mobb deep/dj premiere/rza ice-cold winter-night rap to all these warmer records and i found that I started to love LA even more.

which is all sort of a preamble anyway to the half-formed idea i have about the way all this stuff relates and the way it relates to LA and to the beach and most importantly how LA itself relates itself to the beach and to its beaches and to a certain extent to the beautiful near-wilderness around it. and its so half-formed i dont really know how to articulate it--i sort of want to draw a diagram--but part of me thinks that what makes crosby and phillips and f'wood mac "fit" fairly easily under the umbrella of "balearica" and acts like the band and the dead (and feel free to disagree with me, anyone) fit far less easily under that same umbrella is some kind of interestingly-felt relationship with the beach or the idea of "beach" that LA has and SF doesnt.

i guess my theory is kind of shot down now because there are way more balearic-y guys coming out of the bay area than LA right now, but i think what i am sort of trying to say (and i guess i should mention that this is as much about the mental filters w/ which i listen to this music as anything) is that theres something very specific about los angeles that makes these acts work. like they occupy some LA-only space between what gram parsons called "cosmic american music" (which i guess i take to mean all these pseudo-revivalist 'americana' acts from the 70s incl. the band, the byrds, the dead, etc) and what ill just call "balearica" (by using which i mean to imply that im casting a slightly larger net than just "balearic") that isnt exactly a "beach-y" country & western pastiche (thats kenny chesney, right) but some kind of weird los angeleno thing.

and ill admit first that i am into this theory because it has a neat geographical symmetry, i.e., LA is "west" in a lot of ways--desert, hot, etc--but its right there on the beach, too.

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

looking at my post i see im casting an imagined dichotomy between 'americana' and 'balearica' and ignoring the sort of essential "hippy beardo" aspect

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

and you dont have time to post to my blog...

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Monday, 20 October 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

beaches in nor cal are way more desultory and beardo hippie than so cal

tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Sounds weird but hot

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