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Any love here for Dawson, Nyah Fearties or Shlebie?

MaresNest, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link

if numbers 1 and 50 could be swapped in that list then it'd be a damn sight more otm

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I started a Nyah Fearties thread years ago that is really too brief. Nyah Fearties
And there's a couple of other threads with stuff about Dawson. The "Bogshed - Kings of Swing" thread and another thread that's something like "Growing Up in Scotland".

everything, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

LJ's definitive Mogwai ranking: Happy Songs >>> Rock Action >>>> Young Team >> Government Commissions > CODY > The Hawk Is Howling > EP +6 >>>>>>>> Mr Beast

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Government Commissions gets ahead of CODY because its version of Like Herod is probably the most righteous (if not quite best) thing Mogwai have done

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Young Team > Ten Rapid > Govt Commissions > EP+6 > Cody > Happy Songs > Rock Action > Mr Beast

Dunno where to put Zidane as I've barely listened to it.

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 08:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, missed Hawk is Howling, put that near the bottom somewhere.

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 08:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Young Team > Ten Rapid > My Father, My King > Govt Commissions > EP+6 > Cody > Rock Action > Hawk is Howling >>>>>>>>>> Happy Songs > Mr Beast

though not an album, 'MFMK' surely has to be in there on the basis of its awesomeness. 'cody' would have been higher, but its version of 'xmas/christmas steps' is a poor cousin to the one on 'EP+6'/'no education'. there's very little space between 'cody', 'rock action' and 'hawk', but then a big drop-off to 'happy songs'/'beast'.

never heard zidane.

you sen this, mogwai people?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DD5sy_EnvE

m the g, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 08:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Haven't seen it and can't at work but I'll take a look later, cheers.

blue_eyes chrono_trigger dirty engineer glasses (onimo), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 08:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I still don't think Mogwai have produced an album that even touches how good they actually are as a band, or comes close to encapsulating their potential. I love everything they've released, but I don't feel any of it is particularly solid supporting evidence for my frothing-mouthed enthusiasm about them.

I like that Burning trailer a lot. High hopes for that.

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I still don't think Mogwai have produced an album that even touches how good they actually are as a band

This is completely OTM and I realise it more the older I get. Their two most concise albums really did capture SOMETHING, though. They forced themselves to be more concentrated, and they played around with electronics in a joyful, non-mundane manner.

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

young team still the best tho

Pedro Paramore (jim), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Young Team is excellent and primal and influential but it's also messy and unfocused in a way that doesn't suit their precise build-and-bust dynamic. They're a band that needs regimentation; being all over the place isn't where they're comfortable. (It's actually their biggest limitation, and the reason I don't love them as much as I used to.) There's just this sense that they threw everything together without organising the album; they're an albums band, and that album could have used a bit of fat-trimming. I'd get rid of half the tracks! The shorter half, obviously. Doesn't need that padding.

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

yes!
herod
tracy
rusi2i
satan

^^^bang

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i know this isn't an album per se, but imho it was mogwai's finest moment if you treat it as one:

http://www.discogs.com/Mogwai-EP-6/master/205749

~~dark energy~~ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i probably rated ep+6 a bit low but again that's because it's a sprawling, unfocused document of individual moments rather than an album piece...plenty of great stuff on it, albeit not as great as the greatest young team stuff

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

it also has 'stereodee' which is great in theory, and great in practice for about 5 minutes, but then it becomes a bit of a chore. i guess the speed-garage bit at the end is your reward

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

i know this isn't an album per se, but imho it was mogwai's finest moment if you treat it as one

I can never see those three EPs as anything other than three very separate, very different recordings: documents of a snapshot of my life. I remember going out to buy 4-Satin in Edinburgh, calling in to see a friend on the way home from Avalanche on Lady Lawson Street, getting unexpectedly bongoed on his surprisingly high-quality weed, and finally getting home to listen to it some 10 hours later, and thinking it was THE SINGLE GREATEST RECORDED ARTEFACT IN HISTORY, etc. My flatmate wasn't overly impressed with the volume I was playing it at, nor with the way I couldn't stop giggling at her when she shouted at me. Happy days.

The Christmas Steps EP is the authentic soundtrack to me moving to Glasgow: just a total fucking rush. The Stanley Kubrick EP is the authentic soundtrack to me moving into a damp hovel with mushrooms growing out the walls and thinking: "Thank god for music."

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

can i just say that my slimmed-down young team works beautifully as a double-side single LP

102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not sure I agree all that much with that list, but I think it was voted for by readers?

Happy that "Any Other City" is in there, if a bit too low, and very pleasantly surprised the Laeto's 'Zwoa' is in there. A fine record, very different to their debut 'Make Us Mild'. There's been a third record ('LP3') in the works for a few years now, what I've heard is great but I'm not sure it will ever get finished.

Oh, Foil's 'Never Got Hip' brought a smile to my face there, mostly for "Reviver Gene".

MichaelJLambert, Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:19 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

So, er ... all this chat about Any Other City being "robbed" and everything ... this is all a big joke or something, yeh? Only I listened to it today, for the first time ever, and fuck me if it won't be the last. The C86isms are OK -- sometimes surprisingly decent -- but nothing to write home about; seriously, though, those vocals! I know I'm prone to sweeping exaggeration but that might be one of the most fucking horrible noises I've ever heard in my life :o

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 24 December 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

only one of these records is actually any good

50. Lapsus Linguae - You Got Me Fraiche
49. Funk D'Void - Volume Freak
48. Dead Or American - Ends
47. We Were Promised Jetpacks - These Four Walls
46. De Rosa - Mend
45. James Yorkston - When The Haar Rolls In
44. Camera Obscura - My Maudlin Career
43. Found - This Mess We Keep Reshaping
42. Christ. - Metamorphic Reproduction Miracle
41. Laeto - Zwoa
40. Sons & Daughters - Love The Cup
39. The Delgados - Hate
38. James Yorkston - The Year Of The Leopard
37. Y'All Is Fantasy Island - Rescue Weekend
36. Foil - Never Got Hip
35. Half Cousin - The Function Room
34. Withered Hand - Good News
33. The Beta Band - Hot Shots II
32. Butcher Boy - React Or Die
31. Half Cousin - Iodine
30. Macrocosmica - Art of the Black Earth
29. Life Without Buildings - Any Other City
28. The Phantom Band - Checkmate Savage
27. The Twilight Sad - Forget The Night Ahead
26. Mogwai - Rock Action
25. Arab Strap - The Last Romance
24. Aerogramme - My Heart Has A Wish That You Would Not Go
23. Idlewild - The Remote Part
22. Biffy Clyro - Puzzle
21. Belle & Sebastian - Dear Catastophe Waitress
20. Malcolm Middleton - Into The Woods
19. Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand
18. Uncle John & Whitelock - There Is Nothing Else
17. King Creosote - Rocket DIY
16. Meursault - Pissing On Bonfires/Kissing With Tongues
15. De Rosa - Prevention
14. Mogwai - Happy Songs For Happy People
13. Camera Obscura - Let's Get Out Of This Country
12. Arab Strap - The Red Thread
11. Aerogramme - Sleep And Release
10. Mogwai - Mr Beast
9. Boards of Canada - The Campfire Headphase
8. The Delgados - The Great Eastern
7. Arab Strap - Monday At The Hug & Pint
6. King Creosote - KC Rules OK
5. Boards of Canada - Geogaddi
4. Frightened Rabbit - The Midnight Organ Fight
3. Primal Scream - XTRMNTR
2. The Twilight Sad - Fourteen Autumns and Fifteen Winters
1. Idlewild - 100 Broken Windows

I am banman (cozwn), Thursday, 24 December 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

you are both talking complete crap

happy christmas your ass (electricsound), Friday, 25 December 2009 08:24 (fourteen years ago) link

david scott should leave scotland, he never gets any respect. i always thought it was the vocals on 'any other city' that made it anything other than run of the mill.

keythhtyek, Friday, 25 December 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

So, er ... all this chat about Any Other City being "robbed" and everything ... this is all a big joke or something, yeh? Only I listened to it today, for the first time ever, and fuck me if it won't be the last. The C86isms are OK -- sometimes surprisingly decent -- but nothing to write home about; seriously, though, those vocals! I know I'm prone to sweeping exaggeration but that might be one of the most fucking horrible noises I've ever heard in my life :o

Why u braek hart? Any Other City is my favorite record of the decade, from Scotland or anywhere else.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 25 December 2009 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

I was talking crap; only 2 of those records then

I am banman (cozwn), Friday, 25 December 2009 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

just a wee joke, let's be cool

twentysomething fuck (cozwn), Friday, 25 December 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Frightened Rabbit take a bewildering early lead
http://www.scotsman.com/CustomPages/CustomPage.aspx?PageID=81565

PaulTMA, Friday, 29 January 2010 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VQbFP5fqfM

lol at this video.

Efraqueen Juárez (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 23 September 2010 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

http://thequietus.com/articles/06709-remember-remember

pure remember remember street teamed out my nut.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 4 August 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...
three years pass...
one year passes...

Anyone see that BBC2 documentary last night about Scottish post-punk? Not bad but I barely know any of them.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 16 April 2017 13:46 (seven years ago) link

I like Dr Cosmo's Tape Lab

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 16 April 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link

Cannot recommend Michael Train's "Kilt By Death" compilation more strongly for a thorough overview of Scottish punk and post-punk esoterica.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 16 April 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link

Turkey Bones and the Wild Dogs innit?
Mad Bad Missouri Buffalo

Stevolende, Sunday, 16 April 2017 18:21 (seven years ago) link

I enjoyed 'Big Gold Dream', didn't mind that it concentrated on the Fast/Pop:Aural and Postcard associated scenes, plenty to find interesting. Can see that it's maybe a bit narrow for general viewing.

michaellambert, Sunday, 16 April 2017 19:11 (seven years ago) link

Not bad but I barely know any of them.

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 16 April 2017 14:46

That made it sound like a criticism, I didn't mean it like that.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 16 April 2017 22:36 (seven years ago) link


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