Sade - Soldier of Love

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it's kind of great

Do you love me now? (surm), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:56 (fourteen years ago) link

right? i like how weird it gets

Do you love me now? (surm), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:56 (fourteen years ago) link

yah lovin this

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link

and i like how it just keeps going

Do you love me now? (surm), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I dunno, not to get all sick mouthall, but it feels kind of compressed and spaceless. Her singing still sounds impeccable, though.

only mod can judge me (The Reverend), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link

im on laptop speakers so i cant tell

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 05:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm on big headfones and the beat sounds kind of sick. on repeat

Do you love me now? (surm), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 05:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Already the best album of 2010.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 05:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Kidding, but this thing is a stark contrast to the big, slow-to-change mountains of songs on Lovers Rock. This is all pulse and friction. This is all awesome.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 05:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Now I'm really thrilled to hear this. Pulse and friction sounds good!

Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 06:41 (fourteen years ago) link

might be the first cd i've bought in 3 yrs

jaxon, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:55 (fourteen years ago) link

deej the single didn't "leak", it got released!!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 12:44 (fourteen years ago) link

you have to say something leaked or no one cares tho

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:06 (fourteen years ago) link

if its already released than i am #offthat

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link

lol deej

this single btw is the fucking remedy to everything, man oh man I am beyond stoked for this album

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link

btw are you guys covered in snow yet

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link

we were yesterday but tonite it was just hella rainy

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:11 (fourteen years ago) link

not sure what rev was talking about upthread btw the mastering on this sounds real clean

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Loving this!

It reminds me a little bit of Lhasa's "Anywhere on this Road".

Tim F, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I too am freaking loving this. It is too much to wish for a Sade/Muse collaboration?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha I guess that'll kill a thread dead.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

You're all talking about the Soldier of Love song on Sade's website? Yeah, it's good. The song had a toughter edge than the Sade stuff I remember. It's a nice new feature to the sound, I think.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

god, i love this so much. on fbook, all my friends are 'Liking' my link the vid. and the mp3. and it just proves to me a point i made once many years ago: 'If you don't like Sade, then you're a fucking cloth-eared moron.'

And now my dick is where? Oh, this is too rich (the table is the table), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm at the borderline of my faith
i'm at the hinterland of my devotion
in the frontline of this battle of mine

i LOVE this.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

*Like*

spiny doughboy (baaderonixx), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Whoa. Again, another act that I've somehow remained ignorant of. I was a fucking-cloth-eared-moron, but not by choice. I repent!

Where do I start?

wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/69/Diamond_Life_album_cover.jpg

Mark, Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link

haha damn son yr stealing my taste

but seriously just get all her albums u pretty much cant go wrong. 'lovers rock' is probably a notch below the others, though.

my personal fav is either love is stronger than pride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv9mlnzkJR0
^^^underrated "give it up"

or love deluxe
i dunno there's a thread on her old stuff too, a couple of them i think

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Very easy to find her first two records on vinyl in the dollar bin; you'd better believe that Sade fans upgraded to CD.

Mark, Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link

first three records really

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Lovers Rock is a great album. They're all good but don't undersell Lovers Rock.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link

its great, but like, the 5th season of the wire great

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

man, it's such a bummer that the wife (although she loves her), won't let me listen to sade around the house because it reminds her too much of the smooth jazz station that her mom listened to growing up.

also outlawed are things like zapp & roger or atomic dog or any other lowrider music. remind her of too much of her latina college roommates. :(

jaxon, Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Love Deluxe is a big ol' cave that will steal all warmth from your blood.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Anybody else caught off guard by how deep her voice is at the start?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Sometimes I think "No Ordinary Love" is the most amazing pieces of music ever, so so so intense... An obvious choice maybe but I can't help it.

Tim F, Thursday, 10 December 2009 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link

xp yeah I was first time I heard it, just chalked it up to aging

wkiw latina college roommates

The-Reverend (rev), Thursday, 10 December 2009 01:08 (fourteen years ago) link

"No Ordinary Love" is trip-hop (the guitar sound! the vocal melancholia) in a pop context.

I still rep for "Sweetest Taboo" and "Nothing Can Come Between Us."

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link

<3

Do you love me now? (surm), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:08 (fourteen years ago) link

u guys remember that song "king of sorrow" ? i liked that one a lot

Do you love me now? (surm), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh man, "King of Sorrow." Shit, fucking all of Lovers Rock was/is solid, I ain't gonna front or somehow say it is less good than what came before by equating it to a minor disappointment in a greater body of work—it is its own glacial monster, "Slave Song" is the mouth, etc.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Thursday, 10 December 2009 05:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm listening to Diamond Life tonight. I forgot about Hang On To Your Love.

Jacob Sanders, Thursday, 10 December 2009 06:31 (fourteen years ago) link

'kiss of life' is on lovedeluxe right? dddamn that song is incredible

unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Thursday, 10 December 2009 07:43 (fourteen years ago) link

"No Ordinary Love" is trip-hop (the guitar sound! the vocal melancholia) in a pop context.

most of that album is!

LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Thursday, 10 December 2009 08:38 (fourteen years ago) link

"no ordinary love" is seriously one of the best things ever recorded

to my shame i only have sade's best of - one of the first CDs i ever bought - plus scattered tracks not on it

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 December 2009 08:46 (fourteen years ago) link

xp yeah, cf. also "bullet proof soul"
easily my favorite Sade album

spiny doughboy (baaderonixx), Thursday, 10 December 2009 08:49 (fourteen years ago) link

dudes, this new song...on repeat!

where are that man's pants? :-( (Whitey on the Moon), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link

"To Turn My Back On You" is my favorite Sade song of all-time.

wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvV1IjFtZic

that BEAT, mmmmm

wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

you know, i think i can probably live without the remix featuring maino :/

lex pretend, Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean, time is a major theme for this band, but it's definitely mortal time.

i love all of the albums but none have quite flashed 'this is a major work of art' at me like soldier of love has. still i don't think it's perfect. the last song doesn't quite gel for me.

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 21 March 2023 23:07 (one year ago) link

map i've been appreciating your sporadic dispatches in this thread. it's prompted me to play the album front to back a couple times for the first time in many years; probably since it was new. it really has opened up, keeping the themes of your insights in mind. thank you.

''can be prusuaded to show gayness'' (Austin), Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link

same -- love the posts, map

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link

ty, glad it prompts a relisten.

"babyfather" is wonderful, it's honestly not my favorite thing here because of the subject matter but it's very seductive.

"babyfather" is a major-key, positive, chill song that sounds bright. but ironically it might be the most painful song for me to listen to on this album because of the failures of my own father.

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 23 March 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

“be that easy” <333

k3vin k., Sunday, 23 April 2023 12:13 (one year ago) link

i am still listening to this in the car on repeat! not much new to add, other than i went back to love deluxe for a few weeks and noticed that "cherish the day" shares some of the thesis of "be that easy," with a different emphasis. for a long time i heard those first words of the chorus, "i cherish the day," with an implied "when" after it. as in "i cherish the day (when something unnamed but wonderful happens)". i think this is a construction i picked up from a religious upbringing (as in, "the day of the lord's return" or whatever). anyway, i only recently realized that she means "the day" as in "the daytime" as in "the present". and the song is a meditation on the sacredness of the conscious present. similarly, the thesis of "be that easy" is that after a lifetime of being propped up ("that's just like you to tell me i've nothing to fear") or torn down ("i am a broken house"), she sees clearly that what life is is a "falling", stripped to its essence of being-in-time ("full of air / sun on my face wind in my hair"). as a falling, it isn't just the day, it's a succession of days arranged in this beautiful arc of grace. i hope that's not overdescribed. anyway, now i'm curious to go back further and listen for other traces of this kind of meaning-of-life-is-the-present-moment stuff in the 80s records.

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 00:42 (one year ago) link

"in another time," the whole effect of the song is right there in the title. how to make a peaceful time in the future speak to the hurt of the past, like clean water clearing out a stagnant pond or a breeze bringing in something new that smells safe and alive. that whole outro with the violin and the piano and then the saxophone is this gentle wave that crests right in the last few seconds.

"bring me home," i just want to highlight this line: "the small step i need to take is a mountain / stretched out like a lazy dog." makes me shiver every time. like, can someone call and check on sade i'm a little worried about her. i mean obv the song is from the pov of someone seeking death, not a personal reflection, but that kind of image can't come from anything else but deeply felt experience imo.

ꙮ (map), Friday, 5 May 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link

I'm loving this live blogging.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 May 2023 20:12 (one year ago) link

I haven't read all of this thread but I just recently re-listened to love deluxe/lovers rock and I was very struck by how out of time Sade's musical progression is. I haven't listened to Soldier of Love or the 80s records in a bit but it struck me that as much as Sade was influenced by things going on musically around them (I get a strong Ibiza vibe at times on Lover's Rock for example) they also seem totally out of time. Or maybe more correctly in their own timeline. Like the hints of Soldier of Love already exist in Lover's Rock 9 years earlier and the same goes for Love Deluxe/Lover's Rock. Unlike say, Portishead where Third feels like an entirely new thing strung together by Gibbons' voice Sade feels very in touch with their earlier music over the long stretches of time between their records.

excited to read through the rest of your thoughts map.

Will (kruezer2), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 19:44 (one year ago) link

map forced me to buy a copy of Soldier of Love (I'd burned several tracks + remixes long ago). I'm loving it, certainly their best since 1988.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link

i'm not totally sure how to articulate this but one thing they've always seemed to have to some degree is a version of "jazz" that i would say is organized around sade's vocal performances. on soldier of love the flow and spaciousness of her vocal lines and delivery feel very deliberate to me, a sort of highly conscious minimal construction akin to miles davis' playing on, well, what's in my mind is the first track of jack johnson, but whereas that's channeling a boxing performance, sade is gesturing towards things like the passing of time, love, birth and death. songs about injury and resilience, specifically on soldier of love.

i think how they have melded jazz and rhythm into pop song structures is very sophisticated, very much their own construction, has been a throughline through the decades, and is maybe part of why they feel so "out of time". there might be a few instances over the decades where the construction of that depth and spaciousness slipped but i think they've always had a very high "batting average" with it so to speak, on every album from the beginning. need to go back to the first few and revisit. the way they do it is so interesting to me. of course it's very subtle, but also very attuned to every moment. they take the space and embodiment of jazz and rhythm and marry it to the urgenicy of 'song'. each era and album has a few formal experiments with it and then tracks that just go for the bleachers with emotional saturation for fuel.

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 20:32 (one year ago) link

i know this is the soldier of love thread but just a side note that 'give it up' on stronger than pride is one of my favorite rhythms they've ever recorded, that stopped crash cymbal repeating. it's a shorter track and you'd be tempted to think it was a tossed off thing at the end of the album but i just think it's so intense and spiritual and just rhythmically electrifying.

will i think the 'ibiza' sound has always been strongly identified with sade, in some ways they may have been progenitors. i'm not an ibiza expert. "the sweetest taboo" video comes to mind, sade alternately jamming in the loft and then riding a white horse through the spanish countryside with a free spirited hunk - quintessential ibiza it seems to me.

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 10 May 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link


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