shit. Oh well, we'll see.
― kingfish, Thursday, 17 July 2008 01:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Jeeez. I'm so far out of the loop (I have a Wii, but an out-of-date mac and a lack of friends with a PS3, Xbox 360 or powerful PC) that trailer that put everyone else to sleep looks pretty good to me.
-Luddite
― Z S, Thursday, 17 July 2008 05:08 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.destructoid.com/e3-08-fallout-3-hands-on-95691.phtml
Not sure how to react to this one
― kingfish, Thursday, 17 July 2008 06:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I am still as apprehensive as I was the day I heard Bethesda was taking it. So far no surprises. :(
― Will M., Thursday, 17 July 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Destructoid with terrible writing and lack of genuine insight... not too surprising. Pretty much the reaction of that hollering G4 audience.
Not that Bloody Mess wasn't pretty amusing when I was a teenager myself, but, yeah, I wouldn't put too much stock in that foaming review. But man, it would be nice if one of these previews actually talked about dialogue choices, world changing effects and reputations, non-violent and alternative solution paths, that kind of thing that Fallout is ALSO known for, you know...
― Nhex, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah that destructoid preview is absolutely fucking terrible. "I shot some old ladies!!! I love this game!!!" Ladies and gentlemen, videogames blogger.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Probably worth watching... http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/20175
They cover a lot of the same ground as in the microsoft press conference, but since they're talking through it and taking their time, I thought it seemed more interesting. It does look like it might be a world with spending some time in. I'd like to see some character dialog interaction still, however
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Okay, that one's much better, even going over (literally) the same ground. There's far less mouthbreather bro yelling over the gore.
― kingfish, Friday, 18 July 2008 07:05 (fifteen years ago) link
-- El Tomboto, Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
seriously. "I. SHOT. A. WOMAN." wtfffff
― s1ocki, Friday, 18 July 2008 12:27 (fifteen years ago) link
and to think he's not even the worst journo on that site
see one jim sterling
― Will M., Friday, 18 July 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Maybe this has been answered before, but I can't search through the whole thread...
So I never played any of these games before, but now I finally want to (plus only six dollars each on gog). Should I start with the original Fallout, or should I just skip to Fallout 2? Are they basically the same, or is there some kind of ongoing story? I assume the games are fairly long and I never have tons of time for long games (so I worry I won't have time for both)...
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 19 September 2008 01:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Start with the originally Fallout. They aren't that different and once you play one you'll want to play both.
― Mordy, Friday, 19 September 2008 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link
And they do have loose thematic connections.
Yeah, a lot of references in the second game are lost on you when oyu havewn't played ther first (and it spoils the story of the first completely). Plus the first is much shorter, so you cna beat it quicker and move on to 2.
― THERE IS NO VULCAN DEATH GRIP (Will M.), Friday, 19 September 2008 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Thanks - I'm downloading the first one. 47 minutes to go!
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 19 September 2008 03:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Awesome. Savor it! You're probably going to want to play through it more than once.
― Nhex, Friday, 19 September 2008 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i remembering downloading my err backup copy of fallout in 98 or so. it was like 500 mb and took like an entire week, lol slow.
― bnw, Friday, 19 September 2008 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link
I was almost killed by rats before I could figure out how combat works...
― Jeff LeVine, Friday, 19 September 2008 06:10 (fifteen years ago) link
if i were you, i'd call an exterminator before i got around to playing an old rpg.
― s1ocki, Friday, 19 September 2008 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link
does the GOG stuff work on Mac? I have a pre-boot camp ibook...
― THERE IS NO VULCAN DEATH GRIP (Will M.), Friday, 19 September 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link
I am probably down with doing this too once I finish playing through bioshock... twice. So you know, maybe November? Is it worth it Jeff?
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I played a bit more tonight. I guess I have to find a rope? So I wandered around looking for it through the deserts and mountians, barely escaping a gang of rowdies who wanted to "party," but ended up being killed by three giant scorpions a short while later. Where dat rope?
I guess I'm into it, mostly because so far it's slow, weird, and unlike the games I usually play. I've yet to advance very far though
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 07:02 (fifteen years ago) link
It's not that linear, Jeff (ie: Find the rope, go into the well, get the thing, solve the puzzle). In fact, I only remember one "quest" in the game that actually requires a rope to complete.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 07:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Ooh, look:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=243314
― JimD, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 12:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, Fallout would be perfectly complemented by... hmm. What's an album that's like... doom metal slow but route-66-westerny music feel? If that exists, that's Fallout basically.
― THERE IS NO VULCAN DEATH GRIP (Will M.), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link
White Zombie?
― forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Friends of Dean Martinez/Calexico
― Pizza Dalek in the Cult of Sbarro (kingfish), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link
there's a rope in the town between the vaults, hidden in a bookshelf or drawer. can't remember what house. although the game doesn't have to be played in order, this quest can be done right from the start of the game, and it can give you the location of another town.
― abanana, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Rope
― Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
http://jl13.com/images/fallout_billboard.jpg
As I rounded the corner from Amoeba Records in Hollywood, I didn't expect to see that.
― Jeff LeVine, Monday, 13 October 2008 01:21 (fifteen years ago) link
seriously!! they have a certified printers in hollywood!?!
― s1ocki, Monday, 13 October 2008 04:34 (fifteen years ago) link
LOL
― cankles, Monday, 13 October 2008 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Metro Center station, the big downtown hub of dc, has basically had every available space for ads bought up to promote this. It's even weirder than the usual clean coal/military contractor ads we get.
― TOMBOT, Thursday, 23 October 2008 05:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Been seeing a lot of TV ads for this... during Sons of Anarchy tonight I saw one of those longer commericials with Todd Howard (?) talking over game footage. I'm surprised, because I don't remember any of the Elder Scrolls games (let alone previous Fallout games) getting this level of advertising dollars.
― Nhex, Thursday, 23 October 2008 05:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i really hope that this is good. been patiently waiting for a sequel for years.
― circa1916, Thursday, 23 October 2008 06:31 (fifteen years ago) link
GOG.com opened its public beta today, so you can get FO1, 2 or Tactics for $6 if you so choose.
― Nhex, Thursday, 23 October 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link
real talk, everyone: fallout 2 isn't half as good as fallout 1
imho
― ಥ﹏ಥ (cankles), Thursday, 23 October 2008 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link
I've always preferred the original too. Second definitely a case of more not necessarily meaning better. Still a great game tho.
― circa1916, Friday, 24 October 2008 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link
it felt like a halfassed expansion pack to the original
― ಥ﹏ಥ (cankles), Friday, 24 October 2008 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link
It was essentially Fallout 1.5, but the original formula was good enough that I didn't really care.
― circa1916, Friday, 24 October 2008 00:56 (fifteen years ago) link
real talk: so psyched for this
― webinar, Friday, 24 October 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I've been visiting No Mutants Allowed on occasion for Fallout 3 news/reviews/etc. Made the mistake of venturing into the forums. I can understand being annoyed by or skeptical of the new direction, but these dudes are like the most aggressively obnoxious examples of fanboys fucking ever. Like I want to buy 5 Super Deluxe copies of F3 just to spite their unpleasable asses.
― circa1916, Friday, 24 October 2008 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link
good lord, ILG is 3 years old
― obama cyber leader (kingfish), Friday, 24 October 2008 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link
wau.
― JimD, Friday, 24 October 2008 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link
omg, 100 hours of gameplay should feel like a wonderful treat not a burden. what has it come to when i read that and cringe.
i really really want this to be good. this is coming out at just the right time for me. exactly the kind of thing i want to play.
― Alan Mindbender (Roberto Spiralli), Friday, 24 October 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm in the same boat as RS; this is the perfect game for me, being released at the perfect time. I'm going to sink my whole week into it and just become immersed in the world.
I really wanted to like oblivion but the theme and setting really turned me off; a version of oblivion set in 'the road' however... oh boyyyyyyyy
― coznebb (cozwn), Friday, 24 October 2008 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link
I've read some pretty annoying harping by fallout fans all over the place as well; tht stuff is spirit sucking
― coznebb (cozwn), Friday, 24 October 2008 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link
2008 has been an INCREDIBLE year for games
― coznebb (cozwn), Friday, 24 October 2008 14:32 (fifteen years ago) link
OTM. Also bear in mind that Fallout 2 came out EXACTLY one year to the day after Fallout, so they were pretty crammed for time to push it out.
I wouldn't be too bothered about the online fan stuff, what do you expect? It's a deservedly beloved game from a decade ago - add the nostalgia and the internet, you get the expected pre-reaction to a game that hasn't even come out yet. As for me I'm probably going to wait until it drops low enough in price, likely next year.
― Nhex, Friday, 24 October 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
current list of reviews (copied from elsewhere):
PC Gamer France, 93% - Good variety of quests, lots of replayability
PC Gamer Sweden, 81% - VATS is nice, but there is too much content in a game world that is too small, NPCs feel lifeless
PC Gamer UK, 90% - Excellent dialogue, combat, depth and minigames, but MQ is shortish and it's easy to miss things if you're not paying attention
GMC Italy, 9/10 - Good atmosphere and turn-based combat, lackluster AI and mini-games
OXM '10' - "Between its engrossing story, ginormous world, well-crafted RPG side and white-knuckle FPS combat, Fallout 3 completely, utterly gives you your $60 worth."
Click! 8.75/10 - * Gameplay - 9.25 (Playability: 9.5, Longevity: 9.5, Variety: 9, AI: 9); * Graphics - 8.25 (Appearance: 8.5, Animations: 8 ); * Sound - 9.5 (Music: 9.5, Effects: 9.5); * Technical quality - 7.38 (Fluency: 7, Loading times: 8.5)
OXM UK - '9'
Score (Poland) - 93%
Level (Poland) - 10/10
PSM3 - 9/10 (PS3 version's graphics noticeably inferior to the PC and XBox 360 versions)
― circa1916, Saturday, 25 October 2008 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link