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Digging around I found the few non-album songs by Earwig, Insides' immediate predecessor, that I didn't have on their own one album, Under My Skin I Am Laughing. (Most of the B-sides/singles got collected on a compilation, Past, but I've still never been able to find a copy of that.) Mixed batch but I like them, you can hear them being a louder 'rock' band as such early on.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 01:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I had a copy of Past, the only copy I've ever seen, and I accidentally sold it back to Amoeba last year in a box along with a ton of other things. I went back to find it later that week and it was nowhere to be found. That said, despite the scarcity of it, I didn't find it that great; Under my Skin was much much better.

akm, Monday, 7 December 2009 05:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Agreed, the singles are more woodshedding than anything else. But you can hear them start to settle on a sound as they go.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 05:20 (fourteen years ago) link

looking at this:

http://eil.com/Shop/ExtSearch.asp?DiscArtist=Earwig

all three of those ep covers look very familiar but i could've sworn i was missing one. or maybe i'm missing a 4th ep. ah, yes, the Every Day Shines 12".

there was also an insides promo 12" with clear skin remixes on it that i found cheap in notting hill but my copy of which i think jumps. (Eyesore DB says GUP4)

as mike said i went to the label launch (Borderline (Break For The Border?), London, same place i saw UVS and that first B&S gig) where insides played two sets, the first of which became Clear Skin. mesmerising to the point where you had to remember to breathe. years later i heard steve reich and the spell was somewhat broken but hey...

koogs, Monday, 7 December 2009 11:08 (fourteen years ago) link

there was also an insides promo 12" with clear skin remixes on it

! Now that I'd love to hear.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually somehow I had missed that the original release of Euphoria had a separate 7" single as well.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

> Now that I'd love to hear.

if only someone had, say, posted it on an mp3 blog (and on my birthday too)

http://theblackenedair.blogspot.com/2009/10/insides-clear-skin-promo.html

koogs, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Astounding.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

And thanks!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow thanks Koogs!

I still have never heard the Earwig album or Clear Skin itself, appallingly.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Good lord, man.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Ha I know - it actually feels vaguely shameful considering how important Euphoria has been to me for so long.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Me on Under My Skin from ten years back:

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/old-ft/essays/1999/02/earwig/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Ned I've been imagining the record ever since I read your review ten years ago! That was the first I'd heard of it - I think i actually picked up Euphoria that year due to all the cross-references with Disco Inferno, Bark Psychosis etc.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

cross-references on a.m.a. I mean.

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Something really needs to be done about this! And that sounds like something that would be cross-referenced on a.m.a. that way...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

tim i have clear skin, if i can track down the cd in my many boxes i will set it aside for you

an error has occurred (electricsound), Monday, 7 December 2009 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks Jim! No pressure though, I know what scouring through boxes of CDs is like...

Tim F, Monday, 7 December 2009 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_QYRtOGRVU

so sick

rionat, Friday, 1 January 2010 11:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i hate lovers
i hate the way they go to the bathroom
in shifts
after
they fuck

rionat, Friday, 1 January 2010 11:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Possibly my favorite song by them, definitely my favorite lyric.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 January 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Good find!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

thanks!

pretty good track. very 90s idm. which, um, makes sense.

original bgm, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

only 3 votes in the original poll makes me sad, but I guess this album is kind of the definition of a hidden gem--as much as I love it, I wouldn't play it for just anyone.

rob, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

i played "Relentless" once extremely late at a house party a while ago, like Sunday afternoon late, about 6 or 7 people in the room just dancing and chatting and drinking, it went down well I think though admittedly I just wanted to hear it myself

this album means so much to me but I still haven't heard Clear Skin

Snámh dá Én (missingNO), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 01:55 (twelve years ago) link

I just got into this in the last two years. Prefer Clear Skin to Euphoria. Got the canadian? cd ep off Amazon or Discogs recently for a buck or two. Reminds me of Reich in places.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 03:21 (twelve years ago) link

It seems I have the mp3s for the Clear Skin promo too. They also had a track on one of the Volume comps.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 11 May 2011 03:30 (twelve years ago) link

Never understood the hoopla for this album - always seemed like a more boring Laika

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 11 May 2011 08:22 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

Hurrah Neil Kulkarni once more:

http://thequietus.com/articles/07267-the-euphoria-of-insides

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

Some full-throated poptimism there at the start too!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Not much of a Mogwai fan I take it?

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

Those American bands I did care about that got called ‘post-rock’ always had too much of an obsession with melody and rhythm going on to ever be called anything other than pop (Bowery Electric, Jessamine, Labradford, Windy & Carl)

Uh...

doug watson, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

I should tell Windy and Carl about that, actually...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

Coincidentally, I was humming a Labradford song only yesterday.

doug watson, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

I think it was the one that started on middle C. And stayed there for the next five minutes.

doug watson, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

Missed the Kulkarni feature at the time but just caught up, I hadn't realised They had another band before Insides. The music seems to be legally available here:

http://earwiguk.bandcamp.com/

I Need Feel is an amazing track.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link

Hey, that's great! Must get the missing numbers...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

I would like to make a donation, as everything I've ever bought by these guys has been second-hand, but I guess legally these things can be difficult.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

That "Past" album was the first thing I got by these guys. (Yeah, it was second-hand too.) It was great to follow their progress from that to "Under My Skin..." to "Euphoria" to "Clear Skin." There were a few other artists back then, like Robert Hampson, whose music just seemed to gradually dissolve into the ether with each release. I always wondered where they would wind up.

henry s, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

I would like to make a donation, as everything I've ever bought by these guys has been second-hand, but I guess legally these things can be difficult.

The rights must've reverted to them if they're allowing free downloads on bandcamp. In which case, it's unfortunate that they didn't use the "name your price" feature to allow for donations. In any case, the flac files are much appreciated. Those are rare discs these days.

doug watson, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

tim i have clear skin, if i can track down the cd in my many boxes i will set it aside for you

― an error has occurred (electricsound), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 9:47 AM (2 years ago)

i found this if you would still like it tim!!

‘Banksy bacon burgers’ and ‘Shepard Fairey Bread’ (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

This record is excruciatingly beautiful. Like huddling under heavy blankets, sweating, turned on, listening to someone tell you their darkest thoughts. It makes me sad that so few answered this poll or responded to this thread, but it makes sense. It's just such a private record, almost embarassingly so

This, from way up thread, is so accurate for this music. I've just had someone turn me onto this band and I'm like... how, with all my love of ARKane, DI, Butterfly Child etc etc did I miss these guys?

This is excellent, and painful, and honest.

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Sunday, 5 August 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link

Glad you've discovered them Trayce.

Tim F, Sunday, 5 August 2012 10:38 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah someone I know from lastfm chats recommended them to me recently. The clash of sweet music v the painfully honest, ugly lyrics is just awesome, much like DI I suppose!

Pureed Moods (Trayce), Sunday, 5 August 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

Why did I never contribute to this thread? I bought "Euphoria" in late 93 on the basis of the glowing MM review, and I loved it then, as I love it now. (There was a classic letters page around this time when someone had complained about MM having pictures of "girls with their insides hanging out" so they printed a pic of Kirsty Yates with the caption "The girl from Insides, hanging out"). The album I think is unique and I haven't heard anything like it. I worked backwards to Earwig and loved that too, in a slightly underdeveloped way. The lyrics are like a slightly psychotic diary of desire. And "Clearskin" just... is like "In C". The "Tikky" track on Volume was good too, but I never saw the third album ever... But "Euphoria"'s fans are like a tiny cult, small but perfectly formed, a secret code of bonding over such a perfect record. Pointless ramble over.

Rob M Revisited, Sunday, 5 August 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

i lost my virginity to this album last night.

it was... anything but euphoric.

boy_slayer, Friday, 16 November 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

I hate to ask about your bathroom visits in shifts.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

lol xp

flopson, Friday, 16 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

at least it was stylish. it was like we were in a movie or something. all that made it so dissatisfying was that neither of us knew what the hell we were doing - we even left the lights on.

anyway, i have loved insides for about seven years now. i probably have nothing original to say about them. i guess i kind of hated 'sweet tip' when i first heard it, but came to realize later that it is indeed okay when bands change. i came to love 'sweet tip' with time.

what a fantastic band though (and earwig too). it pleases me that the insides cult has, in recent years, grown by the... tens?

these are my first posts to ilx. forgive me for my self-centered-ness. i just wanted to introduce myself and talk about insides.
it is unseasonably warm in ann arbor, but i could not feel colder inside.

boy_slayer, Friday, 16 November 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

I don't remember the shows being *completely* empty the few times I saw Earwig, although they were in little places like the Camden Falcon. Not saying anecdote is... unbelievable.

Noel Emits, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link

I just.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:54 (three years ago) link

Lol, Nick, you missed the punchline on the joke. After Kirtsy said that the only person who saw one of their shows was the guy from EMF, there was a brief pause before the follow on…

…drumroll…

“Unbelievable.”

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 16 January 2021 09:07 (three years ago) link

but i wanted to believe!

kieth chagrin (NickB), Saturday, 16 January 2021 09:34 (three years ago) link

good long interview: https://toneglow.substack.com/p/048-insides

adam, Thursday, 21 January 2021 00:21 (three years ago) link

Great interview! Nice to see some discussion of Sweet Tiptoo, which is a charming record really

technopolis, Thursday, 21 January 2021 07:51 (three years ago) link

I was in a bad mood the other day.

Glad I bought "Soft Bonds", glad I stumped up for the live show (which I think is available for £6.60 until tomorrow). Always thought they were brilliant ("Euphoria" is comfortably *Top 5*) but they seem lovely, too.

djh, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

All aware of this:

https://music.heavenslathe.co.uk/album/crumb-dropper?token=EC-54113655M49928549

100 only but copies currently available.

djh, Friday, 4 June 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

^ Digital version of this available from Friday, apparently.

djh, Monday, 1 November 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

both records £10 on bandcamp for bandcamp friday

im zelenky (||||||||), Friday, 1 April 2022 07:19 (two years ago) link

excellent, I can finally get a vinyl copy of Euphoria

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 1 April 2022 07:27 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

hey

It’s about time we started posting about this because l👀k ⬇️

Doors at 7, ends at 10. We’re doing a full set. All the rest of it. Look at the art. Smooch to the music. Forget your summer holiday. A FIVER?!https://t.co/s9zeoRdUkr pic.twitter.com/RrSRxeXWSp

— INSIDES (@Insides__) June 30, 2023

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Friday, 30 June 2023 14:03 (nine months ago) link

Classically it is on a train strike day!

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 30 June 2023 20:27 (nine months ago) link

oh no wayyy! was definitely thinking about going

rincton monkspoon (NickB), Saturday, 1 July 2023 07:08 (nine months ago) link

three months pass...

I've been listening to a.s.o. and they're giving me Insides vibes in how moody and atmospheric it sounds, more on the trip hop style, but still. Very introspective avant pop, to give it a name. The lyrics are worth paying attention to, as well.
https://itsaso.bandcamp.com/album/a-s-o

chinchilla, Saturday, 28 October 2023 10:07 (five months ago) link


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