So ILE doesn't have a Meredith Kercher/FoxyKnoxy murder thread yet?

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Less armchair investigation, more hot pix of the murderess.

Three Word Username, Sunday, 6 December 2009 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link

yea one of the 'friends of amanda' ppl also said that she was just responding to a hypothetical, cooperating w/ police ~ what she would have heard if she had been home, etc

This is how the dude in John Grisham's The Innocent Man was convicted, too. Spent 11 years on death row before being exonerated.

james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Sunday, 6 December 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

To Ned and Ed: I'm not implying that other legal systems are good or better, I'm just saying that very often here in Italy investigations and trials are surrounded by a very thick cloud of ineptitude and plain dumbness.
The Knox-Kercher thing is not the Dreyfus affair but it is a link in a long long chain of truly embarrassing trials: it got international exposure because it involved US and Uk citizens, but there have been at least other four or five recent cases where people have been kept in prison for years and sometimes even condemned on totally nebolous premises.

Also, our judges are not elected but there can be other (very) serious problems: a judicial system where, among many other problems, the defence doesn't have the same rights of the prosecutor and where that same prosecutor is not going to be considered responsible for any of his mistakes (despite a referendum sanctioning his civil liability) doesn't seem that well to me.

Finally Italian legal system is obviously based on the principle reasonable doubt, that's why this sentence is particularly strident.

Marco Damiani, Monday, 7 December 2009 08:30 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

I hope like hell she gets out. Poor kid. I miss her long hair.

kkvgz, Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:36 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

any news?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 08:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope like hell she gets out. Poor kid. I miss her long hair.

― kkvgz, Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:36 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark

are you generally chill with murderers?

i am legernd (history mayne), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 08:50 (thirteen years ago) link

She's starting her appeal in October (according to CNN) or November (according to the DMail), hopefully (for her) her lawyers will know the actual date.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 09:03 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope like hell she gets out.

A bit like Al-Megrahi, difference being we all know for sure he didn't do it

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

WTF

'Heroes' star cast in Amanda 'Foxy Knoxy' Knox biopic

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Maybe they should wait until this isn't being appealed?

Matt DC, Friday, 24 September 2010 11:37 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe it'll be like that jeffrey archer play and the audience will get 2 decide if she's guilty at the end of the film (could be a good social networking gimmick)

no one was protesting when this happened to (history mayne), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:41 (thirteen years ago) link

An American is in prison abroad. A good looking one too. And white. That's what really counts.

Tom A. (Tom B.) (Tom C.) (Tom D.), Friday, 24 September 2010 11:41 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO46MFEbzNY&feature=player_embedded

johnny crunch, Saturday, 5 February 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

yeah it is such a nightmare when you murder someone and have to go to the big house

where ilxor ends and markers begins (history mayne), Sunday, 3 July 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link

wow i didn't realise you'd witnessed the murder

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 July 2011 13:18 (twelve years ago) link

i mean i'm wary of the tone of Rolling Stone article but if half of its assertions are factual then there's no way you shd be able to get a conviction on those grounds.

SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 July 2011 13:19 (twelve years ago) link

What is your story, History Mayne? You've made a couple of those weirdly perfunctory posts.

She Got the Shakes, Sunday, 3 July 2011 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

(this legit question coming from someone who's only read a few of these big articles, all of which seem to convincingly point to some pretty questionable shit about her role in it all)

She Got the Shakes, Sunday, 3 July 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

amanda knox is history mayne's oj

dirty deathdrone boys (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 3 July 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

lol

☂ (max), Sunday, 3 July 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

heh. just trolling out on a sunday afternoon is all.

where ilxor ends and markers begins (history mayne), Sunday, 3 July 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

She Got the Questions

buzza, Sunday, 3 July 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

similar issues have been touched on in the death penalty thread and i wanna be tactful but the Kercher family are being dicks about this really

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 September 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

huge dicks! it's okay, you don't have to be tactful

J0rdan S., Friday, 23 September 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Eh. It's all terribly sad. They're dealing with a tremendous loss and people who have told them everything was one way are now telling them that it was a different way. It's gotta tear them up something bad.

The best thing anyone can hope for is that if Knox is truly innocent, that she'll be freed.

My hetfield very root with me what can I lou? (rustic italian flatbread), Friday, 23 September 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

Buongiorno, one the highest-profile lawyers in Italy, attacked media coverage of the trial as sensational, saying it could have affected what witnesses told the court.

And she compared Knox to the voluptuous cartoon character Jessica Rabbit, who protests, "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way," in the movie "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?"

rustic italian flatbread, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

i don't know everything about this case (i read the rolling stone thing + that's about it); it is nice to think that someone went to prison in such a way and wasn't necessarily, inevitably totally destroyed by it

mr. vertical (schlump), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

decision expected in a few hours i believe

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

I just saw her statement to the court - interesting

What does one wear to a summery execution? Linen? (Michael White), Monday, 3 October 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

"I didn't realise how serious life is" is not the best ever explanation for cartwheels in the nick

stet, Monday, 3 October 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

"It's difficult to speak of forgiveness at this time. Four years is a very long time but on the other hand, it's not and it's still very, very raw," Lyle Kercher told a news conference on Monday afternoon.

don't think anybody's asking them to forgive anybody who committed the murder

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

wow, she lost the appeal

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

woah WHAT

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

she totally didn't but one second ago the guardian liveblog said 'know has lost her appeal'

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

so yeah she is, they are, free

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

or 'fee' as the guardian put it, which i guess is at least less embarrassing in the face of having got it way wronger a second earlier

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

#TeamFoxyKnoxy

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 October 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

The Mail have been saying she lost too http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2044583/Amanda-Knox-verdict-GUILTY-appeal-murder-conviction-rejected.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

I suspect that won't stay up long

Stone Monkey, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

For clarification, this entry said Knox had lost the appeal, not the appeal on this specific charge. Apologies for this error.

what a confusing clarification

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

Premature posting by the mail there.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

well, she lost the defamation appeal right?

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

there were two charges, apparently; she got the murder charge overturned but lost the defamation charge where she accused Patrick Lumumba of being the murderer

the tax avocado (DJP), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

That Mail link reports her sobbing as it's announced and the enormity of 26 yrs sank in, etc - it's one thing getting it wrong, but blatantly making up the whole story. I'm naive to be shocked I guess.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

Best part of the pre-written Mail article: 'Media scum: Journalists, photographers and camera crews flooded the court room during the appeal sessions earlier today ahead of the verdict'

abcfsk, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

It's like they'd been fantasising about it for ages...

Stone Monkey, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

lol mail article still up

prego, Monday, 3 October 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

hahahahahahaha they've posted the "she's free" article on the homepage but the prefab "she's GUILTY" article hasn't been deleted yet

the tax avocado (DJP), Monday, 3 October 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link


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