Lord, I just saw a retweet from 3 Lobed about this. Hard to get my head around. Dude was barely a month older than I was.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link
geez, 38! i guess we're lucky to have gotten all the great music from him while he was here, but you can't help but think he had a lot left to give ...
― tylerw, Saturday, 5 December 2009 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link
now playing: Pelt "Ayahuasca"
I'm 5 years older than he was...
― sleeve, Sunday, 6 December 2009 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link
just played "Dr. Ragtime" -- such great, open-hearted stuff ...
― tylerw, Sunday, 6 December 2009 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I saw him pestered by a heckler to play "Kensington Blues" over and over at an instore at the old location of The True Vine in Baltimore and eventually he played it, with great humor and force and compassion. A great musician and a life-force. As I understand it through the grapevine, the heckler was a troubled guy who died not too long ago of a drug overdose, and now Jack's dead too.
I can't believe he's dead at 38. Jeez, I'm 38.
― twice boiled cabbage is death, Sunday, 6 December 2009 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
:(
― Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Sunday, 6 December 2009 00:33 (fourteen years ago) link
this is fucking awful. great musician, great guy.
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Sunday, 6 December 2009 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.arthurmag.com/2009/12/05/remembering-jack-rose/
― luol deng (am0n), Sunday, 6 December 2009 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Show at the house here in a couple hours.. I intend to be playing much Pelt/Rose in between setsThis is totally a bummer
― "I get through more mojitos.." (bear, bear, bear), Sunday, 6 December 2009 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link
nice long jam w/ peter walker here ...http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Peter_Walker_with_Jack_Rose/and a radio session herehttp://delta-slider.blogspot.com/2008/11/jack-rose-vpro-dwars-session-2007.html
― tylerw, Sunday, 6 December 2009 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link
NO WAY.
Just saw this... :-(
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 6 December 2009 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Opium music & knob creek at the Johnson estate this evening. RIP Jack. That was some awful oatmeal we ate, but you sure seemed to love it.
― ian, Sunday, 6 December 2009 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link
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― retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Sunday, 6 December 2009 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Friend just texted me this...i need to get drunk. fuuuuck
― sknybrg, Sunday, 6 December 2009 04:29 (fourteen years ago) link
All Jack Rose/Pelt playlist, all night long. :-(
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 6 December 2009 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link
jamming cathedral et chartres at top volume - fuck the neighbors...
― sknybrg, Sunday, 6 December 2009 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Really really fucking depressed about this. An obsessive alchemical giant. Chatted with him (and Pelt) for hours in the parking lot of Spaceland after a post Terrastock 2 gig. Gave me a hug for releasing the Last Days Of May album.
Going to hoist a pint or three.
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 6 December 2009 06:32 (fourteen years ago) link
A phenomenal talent. Really sad about this. My wine bottle is nearing its bottom and I've played Pearls from the River and Skullfuck and Raag Manifestos and the Archive live album and onward we go...
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Sunday, 6 December 2009 06:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Jesus this is ridiculous, RIP
Jack Rose really isn't in the category of musicians you are a bit scared to open a bumped thread about because you think it might tell you they're dead
― I AGREE WITH THE COSMETIC SURGERY (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 6 December 2009 10:21 (fourteen years ago) link
shocking. rip.
― rizzx, Sunday, 6 December 2009 10:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Horrible news. Obv bummed that I didn't go and see him in Glasgow a cpl of week ago, now.
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 6 December 2009 10:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh shit, terrible news, I'm 3 years older than he was! Saw him in London 2 or 3 years ago - he got a wonderful growling tone out of his guitar but still played with subtlety and emotion, without lapsing into sentimentality. Seemed like a cool guy too, I'm quite upset about this actually. RIP
― The people of Ork are marching upon us (Matt #2), Sunday, 6 December 2009 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link
fukkers and suckkers..this was my firsat booking when i came to hudson..."Inveterate fumbler of keys,pitches and tumblers full of "brown" drinks,Michael Hurley will be at the Hudson River Theater in Hudson NY this Mon May 5th at 8pm..opening are Charlambides frontthing Tom Carter and ace outster Jack Rose of Pelt..all who train up are invited to sleep over and I will make breakfast in the morning.PS-Sorry this is not a question― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Saturday, 3 May 2003 00:56 (6 years ago)"
i will miss th behemeothick strangslingnsneing beauty poeretryfy related fresh fry of a glandtars strings..rip jackyboy
― danbunny, Sunday, 6 December 2009 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
god, this really sucks.
― original bgm, Sunday, 6 December 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh man, RIP ;_;
― brett favre vs bernard fevre, fite (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 6 December 2009 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link
RIP Jack Rose
― badg, Sunday, 6 December 2009 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNShyQt9wUQ
― too shart (am0n), Monday, 7 December 2009 00:58 (fourteen years ago) link
the most awful news. loved pelt for ages, the solo stuff even more. didn't know him personally, but still terribly saddened by this. my heart goes out to his family & friends, to all here who apparently knew him well.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Monday, 7 December 2009 01:15 (fourteen years ago) link
scott slimm of Archive Records posted some of his personal pics of his friend jack over at forever doomedhttp://www.foreverdoomed.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=14656&start=40
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 7 December 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
shiiiit. a massive talent and from what I know (just seeing him live and through other people) seemed like a super nice guy too. jeez.
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Monday, 7 December 2009 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh fuck, this is really sad.
― The bugger in the short sleeves (NickB), Monday, 7 December 2009 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link
very sad news. i saw jack a couple years ago but i was hoping to see pelt in my lifetime
RIP
― Kate 'Impeach' Bush (Future_Perfect), Monday, 7 December 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I was lucky enough to see Pelt with Jack at the Terrastock 2 show you can hear on Empty Bell Ringing in the Sky -- it was and is one of the highlights of my showgoing life, one huge long track that was utterly mesmerizing, and the recording by default just can't capture the full impact of it.
Both Pelt and, separately, Jack played at the last Terrastock, in Jack's case with the Black Twig Pickers. Weird that I'll only ever see one of them again now.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Some really nice recollections (especially from Elisa of Magik Markers/Six Organs) over at the Arthur site.http://www.arthurmag.com/2009/12/05/remembering-jack-rose/
― Trip Maker, Monday, 7 December 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Windy (as in '& Carl') on Jack:
http://brainwashed.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7975&Itemid=1
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Link to Arthur was already posted, duh. That video Amon posted is amazing.All hands.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 7 December 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Was lucky enough to see him and Pelt on a few occasions. Major bummer.
― retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Monday, 7 December 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link
never got to see him, though he was in my neck of the woods a few months ago! ugh. was listening to Ayahuasca on the bus ride into work today. Perfect accompaniment for the arctic landscape that is Colorado at the moment.
― tylerw, Monday, 7 December 2009 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm at a total loss for words. I got to know Jack a tiny bit over the last couple years. I would interview him and write about him, while he'd send me cool free stuff. Then, when the occasion would arise, I'd get to see him make brilliant music either solo or with the mighty Black Twigs. Afterward, we'd have a few beers and shoot the shit, maybe he would even need a place to crash. Just a great all-around guy and phenomenal artist-musician. Take care, Jack.
― QuantumNoise, Monday, 7 December 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
damn : (
― Mountain Dewm (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 7 December 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
woah the thread title changed
r.i.p. jack
― lukevalentine, Monday, 7 December 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Root Blog has a cool raga up that Jack had named as one of his faves: http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/?p=2567
― tylerw, Monday, 7 December 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm definitely going to do a tribute radio show but I can't this week, too busy with finals. Next week, I hope.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 7 December 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I am doing one right now!
― sleeve, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link
empty bellringing in the sky
― plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 01:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Didn't hear about this till last night and I'm shocked. I'm incredibly sad about it and it's a huge loss for everyone who knew him. He was a really big deal to me, represented my favourite things about music and I met him at an impressionable age, a lopsided situation where he went about business as usual and it left a huge impression on me.
Five years ago Jack and Glenn Jones were the first guys my friend&I set up a gig for in Manchester. Their sets, and their warmth and enthusiasm blew away my expectations; debating Fahey sidemen&women as we drove back, going record shopping (Jack acting like a shamed addict when he couldn't resist an unknown Strawbs lp), cooking them breakfast, singing along to Blind Blake in the car. Jack knew stories about sarod players I'd never heard of and funny songs about Bill Monroe; he had the rare combination of an amazing pair of hands and an amazing pair of ears. He was wild-haired&huge, forceful but polite, w/hearty appetites and generous to a fault, making me feel like a friend the couple of times I saw him afterwards. He was like no one I'd met in my 19 years and he was the coolest thing I'd ever seen.
His hollow-necked guitar (so light) was magical to me, watching him hunching over -shaking his hair out the way and coughing- dwarfing it, making it sizzle&spit was awesome and incredibly satisfying. & I'll never forget the volume the first time I saw him, making a joke of our effort to mic him, flooding the church hall (we got a great sounding venue at least). I've seen other guitarists who, yknow, play the guitar, but he could use it to play the room, to burn the acoustics into your brain (Sundogs especially). And yeah, Linden Avenue Stomp is the absolute jam, the keen of Guitar Rag swinging ten times as hard, freedom music.
Just knowing he was out there having a blast made me happy and this is really hard news to hear. I didn't make the trip over to see him on his last tour because I assumed I could catch him again soon. It's been good to read anecdotes and recollections here&elsewhere, it sounds like he went quickly and painlessly, it's obvious a lot of people loved him and it seems like he was content. It's going to be weird to hear the new album&DVD when they come out, but it's kind of nice to have one more thing to look forward to.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 20:26 (fourteen years ago) link
A slew of wonderful memories up at Terrascope:
http://www.terrascope.co.uk/Features/Jack_Rose_Obituary.htm
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
And a Facebook memories group went up yesterday. My contribution was to find bits from the interview I did with him for Loose Lips Sink Ships, which isn't online anywhere to my knowledge. Here's his thoughts:
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"Once something is out there, it's really no longer yours. Everybody has their own interpretations, feelings, and they're free to think or say anything they want about my music. I'm honored to be mentioned along with the Takoma masters, Glenn and Harris. Folk, American Primitive, whatever -- they're just labels."
"I always try to play from my feelings and subconscious. A couple of times I have had reference points to what the song may be about. 'Mountaintop Lament' was recorded for my friend's film about mountaintop removal in West Virginia, so I was thinking about mountains blowing up when recording it. 'Linden Ave Stomp' refers to the place where Fahey made his 1st recordings, although I don't think the song is about that. Most of the time I think my songs are about abstract feelings I have and letting my id run free."
"Scholar might be a good word to also describe what I do. I've been obsessive about pre-war American music for most of my life, so that's reflected in what I do. I always think the best music is music that turns people on to what came before. If it wasn't for the Sun City Girls, I might not have discovered the joys of Indian music and other pan-Asian indigenous musics."
"I think taking yourself seriously is bad for one's music. I hate humorless musicians because usually those folks are too wrapped up in their own egos to create good music."
"I'm always trying to do something different from the last record. I've never been interested in staying in the same place musically for too long. Although the guitar will most likely always be my instrument of choice, I'm always trying to search for something new and unknown."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
such a class act.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
ny times obit - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/09/arts/music/09rose.html?_r=2&em
― tylerw, Thursday, 10 December 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Went on a listening trip tonight. Just the best. Spirits in the house.
― grandavis, Sunday, 6 December 2020 06:05 (three years ago) link
Luck in the Valley now on Bandcamp.
https://jackrosetj.bandcamp.com/album/luck-in-the-valley
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 December 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
12 years gone.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 December 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link
not in a mainstream sense but there's a whole zone of guitar playing now that doesn't exist without Rose, a giant
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 5 December 2021 22:50 (two years ago) link
Absolutely true. If only he could have seen it.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 December 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link
worth checking out: https://new.sound-o-mat.com/downloads.php
― tylerw, Monday, 6 December 2021 16:02 (two years ago) link
Very. I provided the liners via an old interview.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 December 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link
nice!
― tylerw, Monday, 6 December 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link
where do you get those liners (not seeing them in my download ...)?
― tylerw, Monday, 6 December 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link
Huh, odd! Drop 'em a line.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 December 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link
14 years.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 20:07 (four months ago) link