can we give some love to the ladies of the 60's/70's that aren't receiving any hipster kisses?

i paid like $20-25 for the one on the right at soundlibrary ny. some other guy at the store was buying the one on the left and was upset i had the one i had.

How about Kathy Dalton (no relation to Karen, as far as I know). She had one LP on Zappa's Discreet label that was re-released a year later with a track change. Little Feat backed her up, with Van Dyke Parks and Carl Wilson guesting. They used to play the song "Cannibal Forest" on my local FM station when I was in high school, and despite not hearing it for over 30 years I can still recall the tune.

Anyone familiar with her, and is the rest of the LP as good as CF?

that was easy http://illfolks.blogspot.com/2007/11/kathy-dalton-brenda-patterson-1974.html

Thanks jaxon, I googled but didn't find that. Now I don't have to pay $25 for the LP on ebay.

i picked up a 7" a while back by Heaven & Earth. this is the A side. spaced out femme folk. the B side is a funky number that was on the first Folk is not a Four Letter Word
http://www.robotsinheat.com/trax/VoiceInTheWind.mp3

think another track from the LP Refuge was on the Bearded Ladies comp. i'd love to hear the LP, but it's kinda hard to google for.

here's the cover. good looking girls

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3821/r5923751135872947td0.jpg

what about Mary McCaslin's Way Out West? Saw an LP copy recently for $5...?

Love that McCaslin record. But tell more about Kay Huntington!!!

I will, I promise, later tonight. this is one of my favorite threads of all time. I will also talk about this Kathy Smith reissue I got.

I finally broke down and bought Kay Huntington: What's Happening To Our World? for two bucks (Edd beat me) from a site that had it available for years. And, um, like wow, man! This album has bent my mind back and forth between pleasure/revulsion, joke?/serious?, masterpiece/worst record of all-time, A+/E-, etc. The Mr and I have laughed out loud many, many times (although I think I'm past the "this has GOT to be a joke" stage). First side's got the howlers many of which are packed into the first (and title) song. "Why is there so much SUFfering" a child (presumably) asks daddy and mommy, the SUF signifying a pleading octave leap. Also check out the doomy guitar fill once Little Kay learns that men use guns to kill one another. She pulls weeds and raises corn in "The Right to Poverty" and fires off this couplet in "Git To Git To Heaven": "So go right ahead and blow the whole world up/We'll just git to git to heaven right away."

But the second side's merely bad (although I haven't listened to it as closely). And she's certainly easier to take than Joanna Newsom which means the psych-folk set will probably find her too modest. Nevertheless, if you like your critical faculties all discombobulated, get thee to Ebay now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOCdGK1oWoM

Sylvie <3 <3 <3

I saw a quad copy of that Heaven & Earth lp in a shop recently for 60 bux.

In other news, I found a copy of what I guess is the self-titled debut of "The Joy" (aka what Toni Brown & Terry Grathwaite did after The Joy of Cooking broke up) for a buck and a half. I haven't listened to it yet. It came out on Fantasy. Elvin Bishop & Taj Mahal guest.

what about Mary McCaslin's Way Out West? Saw an LP copy recently for $5...?

Just picked up a record she did with Jim RInger called the Briar and the Rose from '78 - fine stuff

"Bramble" even

robertchristgau.com has some pretty reliable stuff about several artists on this thread, like Joy Of Cooking/The Joy/solo Garthwaite/Brown ( I did think Garthwaite could get a little cloying with the Billie Holiday tendencies, but she had her own context, esp. on the first solo album, where it really worked on the reggae version of "You Send Me, reggae "Slender Thread" etc) Bonnie Raitt's Give It Up is still one of my faves from the 70s, and finally got re-mastered, ditto Takin' My Time, which is almost as good. Give It Up was the perfect balance of youthful mood swings, and New Orleans convergences of genres and subgenres and OMG both albums even showed me that Jackson Browne did write some good songs after all (his voice gets boring pretty quickly). Maria Muldaur's early stuff like "Chevrolet" still sounds tight in context of Jim Kweskin & The Jug Band feauting Maria Muldaur's Acoustic Swing & Jug (Vanguard), and the oh-so-flirty-Gertieness of that collection's "Richland Woman" seen and raised by her much later Richland Woman Blues, songs of Memphis & MS blues, earthy & suave & poignant. Heart Of Mine: The Love Songs of Bob Dylan has a few too many "normal" songs, some of Capn D.'s "Don't be like that in Divorce Court baby" moves, but done well and she resurects "Golden Loom" and "Wedding Song" (gotta find that old tape where Marianne Faithful does "Visions Of Johanna"--hey where is the love for Marianne on this thread?) McCaslin/McKee/Cyndi Boste/I'm Not Sally discussed in "Alias In Wonderland"--still no doubt on Voice archive,probably/ possibly still at this address
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0129,tracker_writer.inc/24,323,.html

And if that doesn't work it's at http://MyVil.blogspot.com
Use Control + F on "Alias" in Dec. 2005 archive and you got it.

Also: Kath Bloom is new to me, but she started recording in the 70s with Loren MazzaCane Connors, and check the link to older and new tracks on her MySpace page here--this new PTW-posted title track is not her best performance, the other one described is more typical, but it's all well worth checking out:
http://www.paperthinwalls.com/singlefile/item?id=1668

The Kath Bloom/Loren Connors 1981-1984 CD that I have is a-fucking-mazing. Dunno anything else she has done, but that one thing is an absolute treasure of simple cracked and beautiful otherness.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AkaB3rwDthc&feature=related

This Sally Oldfield song might be worth a shot, starts off all floaty and drifting, then they break out the bongos for about a minute before it goes all full-on soft-rock at about 4:15 for the next five. Straddles the awesome/awful fence pretty nicely. Her 80s stuff is kind of bananas too.

Nicolette Larson, for Lotta Love alone. That voice!

So I've listened to Libby Titus and I fail to hear any connection with Devendra or the psych-folk movement. Should I be looking for a particular song?

Ah, yes! have to draw attention to Ellen Mcilwaine, raw acoustic guitar, very potent vocals and exquisite afro beats.

Take a listen for yourself:

http://www.divshare.com/download/4361685-55c

Lily & Maria's s/t had the folkie-princessy over-enunciation at times, and though I sympathize with their feeling like album was out of their control, when they complain in(Sunbeam label) re-issue's liner notes that the arranger got so 60s-adventurous, I can only wish it were so--but "Melt Me" is a prowly sleepless shuffle like good 70s Patti Smith, several years early, and "Subway Thoughts" and some others work too. More consistent is Michelle's Saturn Rings, re-issued on Fallout (not to be confused with Radioactive; the former seems to be legit. Michele (sic) O'Malley was an accomplished L.A. session singer, also with The Ballroom and several of Curt Boettcher's projects, and he's on here with Lowell George, Elliott Ingber from Fraternity Of Man and early Mothers, Gordon Alexander of the Association, etc. Kinda lush Nyro-ish overall, with "Song To A Magic Frog"("Will you ever learn?") cryptic "Know Yourself," falling off Laurel Canyon ("Spinning Spinning Spinning") outta season sidetrips ("Lament Of The Astro Cowboy"),but hey it's just L.A. in the moonlight, so they can cope. Her only solo album,but did she record with the Ballroom? Anybody know whatever happended to her?

I will, I promise, later tonight. this is one of my favorite threads of all time. I will also talk about this Kathy Smith reissue I got.

― whisperineddhurt

not sure if this is about kathy smith "some songs i've saved" reissue on fallout, but if it is can i just that this is one of the most AMAZING hippie soul records i've heard in a long time?!?

Yeah, that's the same Kathy Smith record. Some Songs I've Saved. "End of World" is amazing esp. since that's the actual title.

Caroline Peyton recently performed songs from Mock Up and Intuition in Nashville, on a bill with Eef Barzelay of Clem Snide. She was in great voice. Ron Wynn wrote a good piece about Peyton in Nashville City Paper.

really, i'm not a scold or an old lady, but please don't buy stuff on fallout. they are the worst of the worst.

posted bonnie koloc and Ellen McIlwaine songs to my site recently

http://www.robotsinheat.com/trax/DontLeaveMe.mp3
http://www.robotsinheat.com/trax/Pinebo.mp3

How about Engelbert Humperdinck, Des O'Connor, The Bachelors, Ken Dodd or Mike Sarne? Not ladies, I know, but surely not a lot of hipster kisses anyway. Not that they'd deserved any though...

does fallout not pay artists or something, scott?

because i've been buying fallout stuff like crazy.

i like this thread

fallout/radioactive has had multiple artists beg and plead for them to stop selling their work illegally and they refuse to do so. what makes them more pernicious than "fans" who make 300 to 500 copies of a needledrop boot is that fallout has MASSIVE distribution around the world. they are a business. and everything they put out is put out without that artist's or artist's estate's knowledge. this has really done damage to some people who have gotten late recognition for their work and who want to put it out themselves and see some money from original albums that made none. (see: george brigman and a ton of others.) often, people will take the time to put out really nice authorized copies only to find that fallout has saturated the market only months before. they are shitheads. i'd rather that people just rip something from a blog for free than support these people.

^agreed

also the quality of their boots is usually not too crash hot

hmmm that is a bummer to hear, i really enjoy their releases :-(

everything they put out is put out without that artist's or artist's estate's knowledge

I'm not going to defend Fallout--they do substandard work generally and so forth--but when I was writing liners for the Asterisk reissues of the Caroline Peyton records (Fallout had already reissued Intuition in 2007, with only minimal liners, no extras and pretty lousy sound; Asterisk got the master tapes for their reissues), Peyton told me that she did indeed know about the Fallout edition, and met with them in London. They did pay her, not a lot. So she at least knew what was going on; but, unlike many of the people Fallout has revived, she has been a pro musician her whole life, had a career after her hippie days. But yeah, the Fallout Intuition is substandard, no doubt about it.

most of the fallout releases i've heard sound better than the radioactive releases, for what it's worth.

i think the same dude (plummer) is also running phoenix records, who are basically reissuing the "highlights" of the radioactive back catalog (first one i noticed was henske/yester) in little faux-LP sleeves.

Phoenix has issued a few expensive boot-looking things, like the first Silver Apples (first one that comes to mind, though there are a few others IIRC.. Flower Travelin' Band...)

on LPs that is. I dunno about CDs, but a while back I saw Newbury Comics in RI had a load of Radioactive CDs for under $10.

Lovers of this thread would love this blog:

http://femalevocals.blogspot.com/

!!! awesome link!

pretty sure my grandma owned the same afghan featured on the cover of the geoff and maria - pottery pie lp

"On the subject of Rita C. - aparently her sister, Priscilla, made a great record called Gypsy Queen on Sussex; anyone heard it?"

LOVING this recently. so great.

also digging the Lily & Maria album that don mentions up above.

and lots of other stuff! i'll post more faves later today. been hearing some great near-forgotten records.

Lovers of this thread would love this list.

http://www.mb.ccnw.ne.jp/swamp/female_list.htm

Unfortunately all the backup info is in Japanese. He's got an even more extensive list of 70s hippie dudes:

http://www.mb.ccnw.ne.jp/swamp/70th_list.htm

such a huge fan of gayle mccormick's work with smith and was excited recently to get three of her 70's solo albums but none of them do it for me. (reading latest ugly things some rocker who knew her says that she wanted to go in a more kick-ass rocking direction, but labels didn't want her too. which is sad. i can imagine that she had a great mama lion/ck strong album in her.)

been listening to a ton of jackie deshannon records from the 60's/70's and loving most of them. when is she gonna get her hipster reappraisal? her records - even the 60's ones - sell for peanuts.

also digging the dozen sammi smith records i ended up with. um, on the country tip.

and sandy posey! i need more sandy posey in my life. though morrissey is probably a fan.

i bow down before ruth copeland's self portrait this week. i haven't heard anything so beautiful in ages. but hepcats know about her. her two invictus records being basically parliament + groovy female vocalist. and her version - she wrote it - of the silent boatman just friggin' kills me so hard. i want to marry it.

"Copeland, Ruth, age one day..." CUE TRUMPETS!

AHHHHHHHHHHHH! i love it so much. just kills me dead.

hey, i like bonnie koloc!

that's a good thing! that's what this thread is all about.

i came within a few minor scuffs of buying a ruth copeland album off the wall in ian's shop sunday.

i think we have two copies of that kickin' around; next time yer in & i'm there i'm happy to give ya a discount!

btw sang freud, e-mail me so i have yer email info. Chapman's on for the 14th at thes tore--5:30.

whoa! i'll be there with bells on. and a baseball cap.