Sonic Youth new album "Rather Ripped"

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why'd you put "Trilogy" on there? that's just 2 Thurston songs and 1 Kim song.

this is a Lee-themed tape I made a couple years ago, roughly based on the running order I posted in the thread linked a few posts back:

side 1:
1. Skip Tracer
2. Eric's Trip
3. Genetic
4. Paper Cup Exit
5. Pipeline/Kill Time
6. Karen Koltrane
7. Karen Revisited (aka Karenology)
8. Lee Is Free

side 2:
1. Mote
2. Hoarfrost
3. Hey Joni
4. Saucer-Like
5. Wish Fulfillment
6. In The Kingdom #19
7. Rain King
8. I Dreamed I Dream
9. NYC Ghosts & Flowers

I'm really happy with how I sequenced it. I might revise it as a double CD soon, and add the song(s?) from the new album, and "Unwind" (which both Lee and Thurston sing on) and "Lee #2" aka "The Notorious Rockin' Lee," the instrumental from the Goo demos that Lee wrote lyrics for and performed live but never recorded w/ vocals, maybe also the "Wish Fulfillment" and "Mote" demos from the recent reissues.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 31 March 2006 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Holy excitement Batman, look what popped through the post this morning!

So my first impressions after listening to 2/3s of it before work...

It's not particularly noisy!

A very superficial comparison would be that many of the songs sound like the quiet bits of Nurse sped up with Steve Shelley's patented motorik.

Those classic rock influences they've hinted at come to the fore! Soaring melodic guitar parts! Lee Ranaldo sounding a bit like Jim Morrison! Definitely a bit of Television on there, particularly songs like Guiding Light.

There are noise elements to it, but they're not as prominent. It's like they're playing noise in another room and it's leaking into the mix.

Just cos it's quieter don't mean it's generic indie rock - it's SY alright. There's a hazy psychedelic mood throughout and weird, dissonant elements.

I like it! But it'll be interesting to see what the noise dudes make of it...

stew!, Friday, 31 March 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Only one Lee song :(

I hope we get a radio promo soon.

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

A very superficial comparison would be that many of the songs sound like the quiet bits of Nurse sped up with Steve Shelley's patented motorik.

Those classic rock influences they've hinted at come to the fore! Soaring melodic guitar parts! Lee Ranaldo sounding a bit like Jim Morrison! Definitely a bit of Television on there, particularly songs like Guiding Light.

this all sounds pretty scrumptious

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Sounds like a descrip of Sonic Nurse! Which is awesome.

mcd (mcd), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link

is "what a waste" about danny wilde singing for the rembrandts rather than fronting the quick reunion tour that the world is waiting for?

dan (dan), Friday, 31 March 2006 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Lee actually did record vocals for "Lee #2"--that version is on the 2-disc Goo reissue.

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link

05. What a Waste - (described by Kim/Thurston's daughter Coco as a rip of from Friends series theme song of Rembrands)

Sign that woman up as a critic.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link

No noise? Looks like they'll be stuck in this middle-aged good-but-kind-of-boring phase until they eventually disband. My wishes for a return of the Bad Moon/Confusion era will never come true.

Lee is Free (Lee is Free), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Having just seen them live in NY not too long ago, I can positively confirm that this is not the case.

nancyboy (nancyboy), Saturday, 1 April 2006 09:17 (eighteen years ago) link

My wishes for a return of the Bad Moon/Confusion era will never come true.

Well, isn't the thing that you won't see them go back to any given era? They move onwards. They already did that stuff, man.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 1 April 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Confusion/Bad Moon it ain't, but I wouldn't say the album has *no noise*. Rather than pile the noise on it's more textured. So you've got Turqoise Boy - one of the prettiest song's Kim's done - ruptured by noise towards the end, or elsewhere there are sheets of hazy distortion hovering below the vocals and clean guitars.
When I played the first track Reena to a friend, we both gave each other a knowing look and exclaimed, "Pavement!". Which is a good thing of course. Killer driving indie rock with odd chord changes and a great Kim melody.
Yeah, this is a fine album. Their purple patch continues...

Stew (stew s), Sunday, 2 April 2006 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link

This leaked... I'm not downloading it, but I'm sure you guys will want to discuss it so I figured I'd bump the thread...

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 14 April 2006 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link

on first listen I find in better then Sonic Nurse, more of a straight up rock album to me. these songs should sound good at Lollapalooza

J. Lamphere (WatchMeJumpStart), Friday, 14 April 2006 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, "Do You Believe In Rapture" is one of the prettiest songs they've ever done!

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, holy shit.

It's like they knew exactly what kind of thing I'd been wanting to hear lately... Springtime is here!

Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Friday, 14 April 2006 14:18 (eighteen years ago) link

prettiest songs since a thousand leaves

mono tony, Friday, 14 April 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

it's like the rockiest version of "experimental jet set" or the improved version of "psychic hearts"
it's a good thing they returned to the 3:00 minutes per song formula, their best record in years.

bob the rob, Friday, 14 April 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

no where near as good as experimental jet set. parts of it remind me of dirty, but with the clean chiminess of their more recent stuff

mono tony, Friday, 14 April 2006 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG DROOL

mts (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 14 April 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

"stunning return to form"?

Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Friday, 14 April 2006 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Suedey's and Maria's thoughts seconded.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 14 April 2006 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

an entire song (turquoise boy) is based on thurston's performance of "church boy, alter basement" on the hurricane floyd cd, from around 98 or so. a few songs (rain on tin, new hampshire, and dripping dream(?)) from the last two albums used melodic bits from it as well, although not as completely

mono tony, Friday, 14 April 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

oh wow, that's sounds awesome. I always noticed the similarity between "Church Boy" and "Rain On Tin" and "New Hampshire" (not so much "Dripping Dream," I'll have to listen for that).

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

It's great, and I like it a whole lot, but I don't think it's better than Murray Street, in terms of late period SY. It's better than Sonic Nurse, but not by a huge margin or anything. It's not a "return to form" by any stretch - it's still more or less the same thing they've been doing since 2002, but without the open ended instrumental parts. It's pretty much another really good Sonic Youth album. It's what they do.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think it sounds like Dirty at all - I'm not sure where people are getting that from. Experimental Jet Set isn't a bad touchstone, since some of these songs seem kinda "Sweet Shine"-ish. The album sometimes has that "rainy summer day" thing going on, which is rather Experimental Jet Set, at least to me.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

i think it exceeds both murray street and nurse. i thought murray street was very boring, aside from having a nice cover. i'm not so sure about dripping dream containing bits from the thurston jam though

mono tony, Friday, 14 April 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

but without the open ended instrumental parts

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strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

re: dirty, track 2 (incinerate) recalls chapel hill right before the hokey gung ho riff enters. very insignificant similarity though

mono tony, Friday, 14 April 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, "Pink Steam" is seven minutes, and the vocals don't kick in until after five minutes. There's that.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Yay.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

its solid. im happy. the end.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

YSI?

strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

it's still more or less the same thing they've been doing since 2002, but without the open ended instrumental parts. It's pretty much another really good Sonic Youth album.

can't see these two statements co-existing, but i'll wait till i hear it. been excited about this album for a while, and the good word has me psyched.

i really have to hear that "church boy" song BTW. i too had always wondered why "rain on tin" and "new hampshire" sounded so similar in spots.

rajeev (rajeev), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, the thing that is holding over from the last two albums is the style of melody and harmony, and the clean guitar tones. The last three albums really sound like they are deliberately writing music for the summer, maybe because that's when they do the most touring.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah there's something comforting about the Coco era of the last few albums, knowing that every 2 years, they're going to release an album in time for a summer tour.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

The Sonic Youth website has a different version of the cover art than the one posted above. I'm not sure how to post the image, but the website is
http://www.sonicyouth.com/main/rippedpop.html

twoheadedboy, Friday, 14 April 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.sonicyouth.com/main/images/rippedweb.jpg

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

that is WORSE than the one above

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

ha ha that looks like a Rancid cover!

geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

did sonic youth sign to epitaph?

geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe this is another one of their jokes?

twoheadedboy, Friday, 14 April 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

interesting, that same image was on flyers being handed out after the rhys chatham gig at SXSW. yeah, i like the other cover better.

rajeev (rajeev), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

You people are mad. This one is clearly a more iconic (and better) cover.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the other cover suits the music and the band much better. This thing looks like a flyer, the other looks like an album cover.

I really like how "Or" ends with a series of lines that sound like interview questions being directed at the band, concluding with "what comes first, the music or the words?"

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

The amount of love for recent Sonic Youth coexisting with the amount of disdain for recent R.E.M. is interesting to me.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

The harmony of the guitar and bass on the 'Incinerate' riff is great

def zep (calstars), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't imagine why you'd be confused about this, Tim. Sonic Youth haven't recorded a bunch of MOR pop ballads aimed at Adult Album Alternative radio, but that's been R.E.M.'s specialty since Up. People are icked out by the AAA thing, and though I will defend a lot of R.E.M.'s post-Berry output, I can't blame them. If I didn't already really like R.E.M., I'd be writing that stuff off too.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, I thought ILM loved MOR pop ballads.

"aimed at Adult Album Alternative radio"

Come on Matthew, do you really think they're "aiming" at this? I think they're just doing what they want.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link

geeta OTM. Please tell me they're not using this cover (just because, yes, it seems so wrong for their sound).

Sundar (sundar), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link


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