Def Leppard 'Hysteria': C/D?

MIKE SAUNDERS
2003 Ballot
Albums
# artist title label points
Singles
# artist title label
1 Nena & Kim Wilde Anyplace Anywhere Anytime Warner Bros. import
2 A*Teens A Perfect Match Universal
3 Lindsay Lohan Ultimate Hollywood
4 Skye Sweetnam Billy S Capitol
5 Triple Image Turn It Up (japanese import) Wire
6 Hilary Duff Why Not Hollywood
7 Nikki Cleary Summertime Guys Jive
8 Hilary Duff What Dreams Are Made Of Disney
9 Lillix What I Like About You Hollywood
10 Hilary Duff So Yesterday Buena Vista/Hollywood

Though I've only heard one Warrant album, I really agree with a lot of what Metal Mike is saying (irrelevant of Nirvana's existence, the qualities they hold do exist). Warrant's songs are considerably RICHER than any other pop-metal band's. Where Kix doesn't grab me quite as much after they make their post-Pyromania moves (I really prefer them when they truly sounded like AC/DC meets the Cars), Warrant take the basic Poison template and embellish it with chewier lyrics and a more varied attack.

Said singer of the Angry Samoans DID just send me this very rockist email, however, just five minutes ago (apparently he posted this on some other web forum somewhere):

>white boy guitar rock sucks

white boy guitar rock has been total crap for almost 20 years now. doesn't matter which genre...metal, punk, emo....any of that shit. put any of it on against a great Buddy Holly track (on VINYL) and it's obvious = the thread has been lost. lost forever. obviously, all the best forms of hard rock, early metal, and early punk 1965 - 1982 were great for different reasons (than pre-Beatles rock), BUT the rock and roll that preceded that = was primarily dance music. in a good way. we're talking the entirety of 1955-1963, buckwheat.

the crap that has posed/passed as guitar rock (all genres) for almost two decades is not. the beats suck. and i say this as someone who was heavy metal's target audience in 1971 = alienated pissed off white boy who thought black sabbath was the greatest shit i'd ever heard in my life (still do).

pop music has been dominant for almost a decade now because of just those reasons. great songs, good beats, etc... hip hop took over cause the beats are good, likewise.

don't even get me going on "indie rock" (the college rock that crawled out of Satan's butt around 1983 on out). REM, husker du, and five million after them....i hated them all.

let me repeat = DANCE MUSIC (any type of music with good beats) kicks ass on the stuff that isn't. always has, always will. why the fuck do you think rock and roll took over in 1955? duh! Little Richard swung/rocked harder than Mitch Miller, do you think? as in made your feet move?

i swear i'm going to kill the next white boy w/guitar i see making bad noises.<

I admit I'm always a bit baffled by claims like this for 'pop' because surely it's true that pop is never NOT dominant.

Well, I'm all for that! But to tie in with the Iraq theme:

41) Slightly repeating a previous point about the Reagan samples on "Gods of War," but a new example -- hearing this last night actually freaked the hell out of me:

"WE WILL NOT CAVE IN." *rocket launch*

There's yer America May 2004 attitude right there.

42) The likelihood their decision to dress down was based on the fear that people would assume they'd been replaced by cyborgs.

Gear OTM!

And early R.E.M. WERE danceable in the same way that a lot of new wave was danceable.

true.

And they were way less danceable (not to mention way less weird, and way less beautiful) than the Byrds, too.

Hmmm...I think "Stumble" is a bit more danceable than "Eight Miles High," unless you're simply doing a wavey arm dance.

Or maybe Jefferson Airplane.

This is brilliant

I didn't suggest that it wasn't. It's just that I usually bring up Kix whenever discussing pretty much anything with Chuck to the point that it was becoming a bit cliched (sort've like taking a potshot at Killing Joke if you were trying to piss me off, etc.)